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me3 front cover marketing female shep problem solved

Débuté par knaus86 , févr. 17 2011 08:47

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:11

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robtheguru wrote...

80% Maleshep players to 20% Femshep players...easy decision for Bioware


I think this is a good point, however . . .it strikes me that if BW would produce a 'limited quantity" or special edition cover with a FemShep, there would be significant sales.  Isn't 20% a lot when you're talking about millions?  Also, I wouldn't be shocked if a FemShep cover would have more than this hypothetical 20% because you would pick up extra female gamers, PLUS, many of us male players that started with canon male shep have been won over by the VA of Hales (i know that I am more immersed with FemShep than Male Shep because of her skills).  
At the end of the day, I'd be curious from others that know more than me if the costs associated with producing a limited quantity (say 20%) would be offset by the additional (above 20%) games?  Probably not, since most of the preexisting 20% Femsheps will buy the game regardless.  It has my vote, though.  Like I mentioned, Hale has really won me over.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:12

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I swear to God I saw a promotional image for ME3 that had FemShep looking out the observation window at the burning Earth in place of Sheploo. I remember very clearly because I was so surprised to see a CG image of FemShep (even if only from the back) that I had to go back and rewatch the trailer to make sure it was different.



I have yet to be able to find the image again, however.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:13

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This unit does not understand what has been said by the creator.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:28

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mander83 wrote...

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can people not get it through there heads the cannon shep is MALE.


Pretty sure there is no canon Shepard.

It's like in Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter- Tolkien and Rowling created the canon material. What fans do with the material, or change, isn't canon.

The people at BioWare created Sheploo and femShep. They created multiple backgrounds and choices. There is no right choice. There, essentially, is no canon (either that or it's all canon) material.

There are default settings but that is something else entirely.

As far as the cover goes...incorporating both would be neat. Promoting femShep even a little bit would be wonderful. I just don't see it happening.

ummm there IS a canon, Bioware has stated this and if there wasn't you would have the ability to have any of the books or comics written. they are just letting you decide on those choices not because there is no canon but so that the game isn't just a platformer.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:30

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jlb524 wrote...

I personally like the generic 'N7' cover, or something similar.  No Shepard at all.


This to me begs to be ****ed about by mob rule, just like Mass Effect 2's box art.

This whole FemShep Vs ManShep issue to me is redundant. My main Shepard is female Renegade, everyone has their favorite. What I would like to see honestly is a single amazingly polished FemShep CG trailer for ME3. Then from there all FemShep fans can be forever satisfied, at least until there is something else to whine about.

I would support the whole Pro-FemShep group as well if I didn't feel the entire mob wouldn't pull a "If you give a mouse a cookie" when finally rewarded.Image IPB

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:31

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OP has something going, but it won't happen. The default canon Shepard is Mark Vanderloo's Shep i.e. Sheploo *smirks* it hasn't happened for ME1 & 2 and it won't happen for 3. Besides, there is no 'default' femshep model that you'd actually want to have on your cover is there. Jane Shepard naturally looks like a beast and I have to edit her face for my femshep. Jane is just, meh. Vanderloo is hot. Hot stuff. So expect to see him again on the cover of ME3. As for femshep? Yeah, we're all up for it but it isn't going to happen. Sheploo is the poster-boy for ME. The N7 cover for the ME2:CE was a good idea, worked well but as for the regular covers we'll see maleshep.

*Runs into car and drives away before being torn to shreds by fem-shep fans*

Modifié par Merchant2006, 18 février 2011 - 03:33 .

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:32

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MALE SHEPARD = Vanderloo = DEFAULT SHEPARD = MAIN CHARACTER (COVER/TITLE/COMMERCIALS/DEFAULT) = he will be the person on the cover, and not the non-default/customizable female shepard.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:33

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^ In a nutshell, yes.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:37

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Greybox_Inception wrote...

MALE SHEPARD = Vanderloo = DEFAULT SHEPARD = MAIN CHARACTER (COVER/TITLE/COMMERCIALS/DEFAULT) = he will be the person on the cover, and not the non-default/customizable female shepard.

While perfectly true, it is in no way a reason not to include Jane Shepard on the back of the cover or on the "tin case" of the Collector's Edition. It's really only a matter of whether BioWare WANTS to do it.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 18 février 2011 - 03:37 .

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:42

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Please NO politically correct covers!! Keep your political/equality needs OUT of the game!!!

Modifié par MassStorm, 18 février 2011 - 03:54 .

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:45

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Greybox_Inception wrote...

MALE SHEPARD = Vanderloo = DEFAULT SHEPARD = MAIN CHARACTER (COVER/TITLE/COMMERCIALS/DEFAULT) = he will be the person on the cover, and not the non-default/customizable female shepard.

While perfectly true, it is in no way a reason not to include Jane Shepard on the back of the cover or on the "tin case" of the Collector's Edition. It's really only a matter of whether BioWare WANTS to do it.

if it wasn't done for mass effect 1, and mass effect 2 likely not for mass effect 3.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:46

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Merchant2006 wrote...

^ In a nutshell, yes.

exactly, i just read what you writen. you said the exact same thing, but before me.

so it's true.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:50

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vader da slayer wrote...

mander83 wrote...

Saren100 wrote...

can people not get it through there heads the cannon shep is MALE.


Pretty sure there is no canon Shepard.

It's like in Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter- Tolkien and Rowling created the canon material. What fans do with the material, or change, isn't canon.

The people at BioWare created Sheploo and femShep. They created multiple backgrounds and choices. There is no right choice. There, essentially, is no canon (either that or it's all canon) material.

There are default settings but that is something else entirely.

As far as the cover goes...incorporating both would be neat. Promoting femShep even a little bit would be wonderful. I just don't see it happening.

ummm there IS a canon, Bioware has stated this and if there wasn't you would have the ability to have any of the books or comics written. they are just letting you decide on those choices not because there is no canon but so that the game isn't just a platformer.


BioWare has explicitly stated multiple times that THERE IS NO CANON SHEPARD and the books go out of their way to mention Shepard in name and major accomplishments only (ie: was a Spectre, fought the Geth, defeated Saren, defeated the Collectors) and never mention Shepard's gender or background or any optional decisions.

Don't argue a point when you don't know what you're talking about.

Modifié par JKoopman, 18 février 2011 - 03:52 .

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 03:54

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JKoopman wrote...

(...)

BioWare has explicitly stated multiple times that THERE IS NO CANON SHEPARD and the books go out of their way to mention Shepard in name and major accomplishments only (ie: was a Spectre, fought the Geth, defeated Saren, defeated the Collectors) and never mention Shepard's gender or background or any optional decisions.

Don't argue a point when you don't know what you're talking about.

Exactly. In fact, not too long ago I remember a developer (I think it was Jesse Houston) saying the only thing that is canon is what YOU did.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 04:07

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There are some canon things about Shepard (i.e., they died in the Collector Ship attack on the Normandy, they became a Spectre, the worked for Cerberus, etc.) but appearance/gender/history/decisions isn't one of them.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 04:09

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Just the most fundamental things from a story perspective, yes.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 04:12

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Bad idea, no.



And it's not like this is gonna happen anyway :D

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 04:30

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Greybox_Inception wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Greybox_Inception wrote...

MALE SHEPARD = Vanderloo = DEFAULT SHEPARD = MAIN CHARACTER (COVER/TITLE/COMMERCIALS/DEFAULT) = he will be the person on the cover, and not the non-default/customizable female shepard.

While perfectly true, it is in no way a reason not to include Jane Shepard on the back of the cover or on the "tin case" of the Collector's Edition. It's really only a matter of whether BioWare WANTS to do it.

if it wasn't done for mass effect 1, and mass effect 2 likely not for mass effect 3.


FemShep was on the back of the cover for ME1.  Also, if the special edition items are meh and I have to look at Loo's mug on the SE cover, I'll save some money and not buy the SE.  If the SE items are meh but FemShep is on the cover, I'm buying.  :P

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 04:30

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Awesome idea! But it's not going to happen... :(

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 04:39

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Print your own cover with yours shep...

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Sha121
Posté 18 février 2011 - 04:55

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I think there should be both,
a separator like in comics will be between them or the will be like Terminator...
http://thevegaswindo...r-2-posters.jpg

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 05:02

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I believe both default Shepards 'John' and 'Jane' should be on cover. That would be fair.

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 05:05

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Then better no Shepard at all and something artistic on the cover like the ME2 collector edition which was fine. again no-politically correct solutions!!!

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 05:07

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What's this about political correctness? :huh:

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Posté 18 février 2011 - 05:12

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

What's this about political correctness? :huh:



Because in ME1 and ME2 DudeShep. was always on the cover with no FemShep. Now a lot of FemShep supporters think that this is not fair and want to change it. Even though everyone know that DudeShep is in a way or another the "main" Shep......then better no Shep at all....everyone is UNhappy and finally we will finish with all this fanatic feminism of many (not all)FemShep supporters
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