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TGS2011: DA2 demo hands-on, all talent descriptions


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Hey Peter, if rogues start with Miasmic Flask, what do the other classes start with? I suspect it's Pommel Strike and Mind Blast, but correct me if I'm wrong.

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andar91 wrote...

Hey Peter, if rogues start with Miasmic Flask, what do the other classes start with? I suspect it's Pommel Strike and Mind Blast, but correct me if I'm wrong.



He answered this already in this exact thread......

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Hm.. Fair enough. Winter's blast works like the Battle Mage's version in Awakening right? Then I suppose I'll lower spirit strike 1 upgrade. To pick it up. Thanks. 


You mean Hand's of Winter?  I don't think so.  There is no reason to have a cone when you have that overpowered spell.  It looks like Winter's Blast is single target.

The advantage of Winter's Blast is that it has 100% Freeze/40% BRITTLE vs. 60% Freeze/20% BRITTLE for Deep Freeze.  So the cone is no longer an instant freeze.  Plus the Winter spells can be cast at a much larger distance.


True. Hmm looks like Carver or Fenris is going to have to be my main Warrior throughout the game. Good thing I get Carver automatically. 

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Phoenixblight wrote...

andar91 wrote...

Hey Peter, if rogues start with Miasmic Flask, what do the other classes start with? I suspect it's Pommel Strike and Mind Blast, but correct me if I'm wrong.



He answered this already in this exact thread......


No he didn't. At least I don't think he did.

Modifié par Shiroukai, 18 février 2011 - 10:09 .


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Question. is it true that Rogues can't use swords? I hope not because I was always a sword and dagger kind of rogue.

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Iyose wrote...

Question. is it true that Rogues can't use swords? I hope not because I was always a sword and dagger kind of rogue.

Yes, that is true.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Wow. You guys really did a number on talents. You need to give a raise to whoever came up with it.


I agree.

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Peter Thomas wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Wow. You guys really did a number on talents. You need to give a raise to whoever came up with it.


I agree.


would that happen to be you?^_^

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Shiroukai wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

andar91 wrote...

Hey Peter, if rogues start with Miasmic Flask, what do the other classes start with? I suspect it's Pommel Strike and Mind Blast, but correct me if I'm wrong.



He answered this already in this exact thread......


No he didn't. At least I don't think he did.


Naitaka wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Do our characters start out with a free talent/spell like in origins?


Yes, at least we do in the demo, I believe it was miasma flask for rogue and mind blast for mage, I can't remember what warrior starts out with though.


THe warrior starts out with Pommel strike. 

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Phoenixblight wrote...

Shiroukai wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

andar91 wrote...

Hey Peter, if rogues start with Miasmic Flask, what do the other classes start with? I suspect it's Pommel Strike and Mind Blast, but correct me if I'm wrong.



He answered this already in this exact thread......


No he didn't. At least I don't think he did.


Naitaka wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Do our characters start out with a free talent/spell like in origins?


Yes, at least we do in the demo, I believe it was miasma flask for rogue and mind blast for mage, I can't remember what warrior starts out with though.


THe warrior starts out with Pommel strike. 


It still wasn't Peter who anwsered :P.

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Do we know anything about stacking effects yet?

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A little sad about Haste being activated not but considering how much faster everything is, it's alright.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Wow. You guys really did a number on talents. You need to give a raise to whoever came up with it. I LOVE the synergy between classes, the way the talents are laid out. There's SO much more to character advancement than in Origins. Bravo, BioWare. I'm SO frakking excited!


Definitely. In Origins, I could essentially throw talents around without worrying too much about the repercussions of being careless. With this system however, I have spent a good hour debating between the various chains and still have not found a suitable build that I am happy with.

Not that this is a bad thing of course. =p 

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Shiroukai wrote...



It still wasn't Peter who anwsered :P.


It has the same effect. THe Op played the demo and answered that question. 

Modifié par Phoenixblight, 18 février 2011 - 10:29 .


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Shiroukai wrote...

It still wasn't Peter who anwsered :P.


They've been seen in numerous demos. Pommel Strike, Miasmic Flask and Mind Blast.

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Peter, will the specs be unlocked from the start?



Or will we need to unlock them through manuals, companions, quests, etc?

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This thread has completely turned around my mage build ideas for an all round build, thanks to the OP. I knew most of the specs before but now with a more complete picture I'll redo my mage spec. I was going to go with elemental over primal but clearly the primal tree is the more useful all round tree. Offense, defense, crowd control and AOE all in 1 tree. The only elemental spell I might get is Winters Grasp.

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This is very helpful, thanks

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Huh. I didn't see anything for pick-pocketing, picking locks or any of that stuff for rogues... It must be on a different skill menu.

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Lock picking is automatic, based on cunning.

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namedforthemoon wrote...

Huh. I didn't see anything for pick-pocketing, picking locks or any of that stuff for rogues... It must be on a different skill menu.



There are no skills. Its automatic based on cunning with a rogue. 

Modifié par Phoenixblight, 18 février 2011 - 10:49 .


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Phoenixblight wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Huh. I didn't see anything for pick-pocketing, picking locks or any of that stuff for rogues... It must be on a different skill menu.



There are no skills. Its automatic based on cunning with a rogue. 


Oh. Thanks for the response on that.

What about coercion?

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namedforthemoon wrote...

Phoenixblight wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Huh. I didn't see anything for pick-pocketing, picking locks or any of that stuff for rogues... It must be on a different skill menu.



There are no skills. Its automatic based on cunning with a rogue. 


Oh. Thanks for the response on that.

What about coercion?


Same its automatic it will be based on the tone and response you use or who is in your party. 

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Morroian

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Coercion will based based on the character you establish ie. diplomatic or angry and who you have in your party.

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ya i just want to add that talents are fantastic looking. the fact they both encourage teamwork and make each character very unique= raise for the talented talent maker. :)