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[Madlax27]

So after a couple of playthroughs (thoroughly addicted and enjoying this game), I started a Dalish Elf on my third playthrough.

Then I realized shortly after completing the Origin that I have no incentive to play the character anymore.

Every Origin in this game aside from Dalish Elves has some sort of closure to their story.  Dwarves have a pretty obvious one, Human nobles, Mages, even City Elves seem like they might get a little bit of closure, even though their area is locked until near the end of the game.

However, the Dalish elf origin seems to pretty much disappear as soon as you start Ostagar and it is like I am helping out Fereldan for absolutely no reason. 

I haven't played the game all the way through as a Dalish elf, so for anyone that has, is there any closure to what happens in their origin if I keep playing?  I would prefer it not being spoiled if there is, but if there isn't I think I'm going to remake another origin instead.

[Wintermist]

Well the incentive to join the Grey Wardens in itself would be to survive the taint itself. After that you're pretty much left to your own morale. But in a way that's also true to all the other origins as well. If the darkspawn would sense you more and chase after you more you would have a stronger personal reason on top of saving Ferelden to fight them.

[Madlax27]

Wintermist wrote...

Well the incentive to join the Grey Wardens in itself would be to survive the taint itself. After that you're pretty much left to your own morale. But in a way that's also true to all the other origins as well. If the darkspawn would sense you more and chase after you more you would have a stronger personal reason on top of saving Ferelden to fight them.

Well, I mean aside from roleplaying reasons and the fact that you are a Grey Warden .    The other origins have follow-up stories that go along with you gathering the treaties (Dwarf Nobles/Commoners doing Orzammar after completing Ostagar for example).

When you visit the Dalish elves as a Dalish elf they do acknowledge you are a Dalish from another tribe, but other than that it doesn't seem like the story does anything special having dalish elf as your origin

Modifié par Madlax27, 14 novembre 2009 - 06:16 .

[HavardTheAegis]

Well at some point you do meet a certain someone from your clan.....

[MachDelta]

There are three reasons for the Dalish:



1. Save your own hide. After all, if you didn't partake in the joining you were a dead wo/man walking.

2. To save your clan. If the darkspawn overrun Fereldan unchecked, it's unlikely that any of the local Dailish clans would survive.

3. To search for your bestest-buddy, Tamlin. What ever became of him, and where did he go?



Also, let me just say that a certain ending for the Dalish works out quite well for them as a people.

[Madlax27]

HavardTheAegis wrote...

Well at some point you do meet a certain someone from your clan.....

Ah this is what I needed to hear, thank you .  I suppose I'll complete the story as this origin after all.

[DalishRanger]

MachDelta's right on all accounts. I dunno, I had no trouble figuring my Dalish would see it through to the end for the sake of his clan's safety, if nothing else. It helps that he was a bit curious about human society too, but obviously not everyone's going to RP that.

[Vegielamb]

Madlax27 wrote...

So after a couple of playthroughs (thoroughly addicted and enjoying this game), I started a Dalish Elf on my third playthrough.

Then I realized shortly after completing the Origin that I have no incentive to play the character anymore.

Every Origin in this game aside from Dalish Elves has some sort of closure to their story.  Dwarves have a pretty obvious one, Human nobles, Mages, even City Elves seem like they might get a little bit of closure, even though their area is locked until near the end of the game.

However, the Dalish elf origin seems to pretty much disappear as soon as you start Ostagar and it is like I am helping out Fereldan for absolutely no reason. 

I haven't played the game all the way through as a Dalish elf, so for anyone that has, is there any closure to what happens in their origin if I keep playing?  I would prefer it not being spoiled if there is, but if there isn't I think I'm going to remake another origin instead.

Dalish elves make great anarchists. I mean, they hate the systems that exist. Just saying.

[Rolandable]

Yes. My elf slays them all no questions asked...I go for instant (attack). He's pissed at the world, and he has arrow of slaying.

[kevinwastaken]

Well you get to murder 3 humans for no reason right off the bat, so it starts out really strong but it never really delivers. By the end of the origin, I just exited the game and started playing my City Elf again.

[GmanFresh]

yes. they should have scrapped that character along with the human commoner. just terrible

[Sable Phoenix]

The Dalish origin would've been stronger if a large portion of your clan had vanished and you had to try to track them down. All the other origins are driven by either revenge, or going back to where you started to change the situation/make life better for your family. The Dalish? Not so much. Yeah there's Tamlen, but you're told unequivocally that he's dead, and even if he weren't you have no clue where he could be.

[Creature 1]

Vegielamb wrote...Dalish elves make great anarchists. I mean, they hate the systems that exist. Just saying.

I'm going to make a female Dalish elf two-handed warrior to unlock the Reaver specialization and choose all of the callous quest options. 

[JosieJ]

DalishRanger wrote...

MachDelta's right on all accounts. I dunno, I had no trouble figuring my Dalish would see it through to the end for the sake of his clan's safety, if nothing else. It helps that he was a bit curious about human society too, but obviously not everyone's going to RP that.

I rp'd that my Dalish would have been perfectly happy remaining with his clan, but when that wasn't possible, he wanted to a) survive, save his clan (and by extension everyone else) from the Blight, and c) prove to everyone that the Dalish are not the savages everyone sees them as.

It helps that throughout the game, people refer to your heritage--in small ways.  (If you're looking for big game-changing dialogue/situations, you'll be disappointed.)   I haven't played a City Elf yet, so I don't know if this is common to all elves or just for the Dalish, but this playthrough has been the one with the most comments on/references to your heritage out of the 3 I've played so far (Human Noble, Human Mage).

[Riot Inducer]

There's no more or less game changing dialogue throughout the story as a Dalish than any other origin. In fact the Dalish PC gets an entirely unique conversation with Leliana, and while you never re-visit where your origin took place like some of the other origins you do get plenty of different reactions from people.

[Tamyn]

I like my Dalish elf and enjoy how she's an outsider pretty much anywhere she goes after her Origin. Even the recruitable Dalish tribe is full of strangers. She's resentful of being tainted and being forced to leave her tribe and abandon all hope for Tamlen. I actually liked Duncan until I played through her Origin.

IIRC I've gotten a couple of remarks from NPCs about her being a troublemaker because she's Dalish. She feels no ties to anyone or anything really. She's performing her Grey Warden duties because it's better than sitting around waiting to die. I liked having a conversation with Alistair about being ripped away from everything she's ever known and not having a home anymore.

Modifié par Tamyn, 16 décembre 2009 - 09:47 .

[JosieJ]

Riot Inducer wrote...

There's no more or less game changing dialogue throughout the story as a Dalish than any other origin. In fact the Dalish PC gets an entirely unique conversation with Leliana, and while you never re-visit where your origin took place like some of the other origins you do get plenty of different reactions from people.

If this is in response to my post, that's basically what I was trying to say.  People tend to look for huge game-changing things, and overlook the many references to your heritage (not origin, but heritage) that you get throughout the game as a Dalish elf (the Leliana conversation being a perfect example).

If this wasn't in response to my post, sorry for the "it's all about MEEEE" post! 

[robertthebard]

I just finished my Dalish origin, and I was quite satisfied all the way through. There is a unique dialog with Lel, and, you can alter a more famous dialog with her ever so slightly as well, if you pick the right option, which isn't game shattering, or making, just there. I took it as my duty, since I'd been tainted, and encouraged by my keeper, to fight the darkspawn. Not only to save myself and my clan, but Ferelden, and I was rewarded for my efforts end game. I will say no more with the limited spoiler request, but suffice to say that I was extremely happy with how it came out.

[Jorithel Ravencrest]

the closure comes after you die slaying the dragon...at least it did for me courtesy of Alistar at my funeral.

[Riot Inducer]

JosieJ wrote...
If this is in response to my post, that's basically what I was trying to say.  People tend to look for huge game-changing things, and overlook the many references to your heritage (not origin, but heritage) that you get throughout the game as a Dalish elf (the Leliana conversation being a perfect example).

If this wasn't in response to my post, sorry for the "it's all about MEEEE" post! 

hehe, wasn't in response to you no, just great minds thinking alike 

And all in all I actually found Dalish to be the most satisfying of my 3 playthroughs thus far.

[Jester8183]

One thing I had hoped for in the Dalish story was more of a reaction to my tattoo. Especially from people of the chantry. I'm breaking the law, here. Elves aren't allowed to worship their gods in chantry controlled areas, right? If they don't realize that the tattoo is worn in reverence to an elvish god how can the stop city elves from worshiping them? I think its odd that one of the driving reasons that the Dales were conquered, religion, doesn't come up more with the Dalish origin.

[Celuwen]

I loved my Dalish Warrior. The origin play through was the most satisfying for me (Dwarf Noble being second). I did not want to leave my clan at all, my keeper had to order me to do it. I wanted to stay behind and find Tamlen - even though Duncan said he was dead (didn't believe that!).



My Dalish Elf did not like Duncan and mistrusted him completely until he died. I thought he lied to me about the whole taint thing, just as he lied about Tamlen, but I honoured my Keeper and Clan by fighting the blight.



In the end, I managed to right by my clan, then I naffed off with Zevran. I'd had enough of the Shemlen, who I felt didn't honour one of their best - Alistair - for his sacrifice very well. No one even mentioned it in the post battle talk, except for Wynne and she was rather blase considering how close they had become.

[houdinimachine]

My Dalish left because her Keeper told her to. It was that simple. She hates humans, but she's doing her duty.

[OneBadAssMother]

Endarin attition lefalarn... (however its spelled - i dont use subtitles)



"We are the Dalish, keepers of the lost lore, walkers of the lonely path, and NEVER AGAIN SHALL WE SUBMIT"



The only problem I found though is that throughout the game people still see u as a city elf. I'd rather they see my as a savage who spits on their maker and threatens priests (Lothering: Morrigan +5 approval hehe)

[Herr Uhl]

houdinimachine wrote...

My Dalish left because her Keeper told her to. It was that simple. She hates humans, but she's doing her duty.

The one with the least motivation to go has to be the magi origin. If you do what Irwing asks, there is nothing forcing you to go.

In the Dhalish one, you at least have the prospect of becoming a ghoul to force you.