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[Rivercurse]

www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl

First I've heard of this so forgive if posted already. 

Out September 2011, seems likely to be an immediate prequel to ME3, as in the game will be set immediately after the book ends.

Anyone care to add speculation? 

[Quole]

REALLY not looking forward to this. Ever read `The Flood?` One of the worst books I have ever read and it was by the same Author  .

Modifié par Quole, 19 février 2011 - 12:22 .

[Rivercurse]

Yeah I heard he was primarily a Halo writer. But good things have been said about him aswell as bad so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.



Bioware wouldn't let him release anything terrible anyway, they surely review and sign off on the final draft before it goes to print?

[Hirohumi]

Dietz has written many books besides Halo: the Flood, some of which are pretty good. I agree with River, Bioware probably wouldn't let anything subpar (as far as the books go) to be released.



As for the actual book itself i didn't realize that the book would be set right before the actual game, that's pretty cool

[Quole]

Hirohumi wrote...

Dietz has written many books besides Halo: the Flood, some of which are pretty good.

ur making that up.

[Uezurii]

No he is not, also people have to understand that Halo: The flood followed the first game. So everything dietz could do was very limited. There is not enough depth in the first Halo game to make a great epic story of. Can be wrong ofcourse, but read some of his other books and enjoyed them, so I'm looking forward to this one.

Modifié par Uezurii, 19 février 2011 - 12:57 .

[Notho]

Hirohumi wrote...

Dietz has written many books besides Halo: the Flood, some of which are pretty good. I agree with River, Bioware probably wouldn't let anything subpar (as far as the books go) to be released.

As for the actual book itself i didn't realize that the book would be set right before the actual game, that's pretty cool

I was not a fan of Retribution, although the first two weren't terrible, in my opinion.

Why isn't Drew Karpyshyn doing this one as well?

[Quole]

Uezurii wrote...

No he is not, also people have to understand that Halo: The flood followed the first game. So everything dietz could do was very limited. There is not enough depth in the first Halo game to make a great epic story of. Can be wrong ofcourse, but read some of his other books and enjoyed them, so I'm looking forward to this one.

1. im joking

2. The book being based off the game was NOT the reason for that book being terrible.

Modifié par Quole, 19 février 2011 - 01:25 .

[Hirohumi]

Quole wrote...

Hirohumi wrote...

Dietz has written many books besides Halo: the Flood, some of which are pretty good.

ur making that up.

What the fact that he has written other books or the fact that they were good? As to the second, i enjoyed some of them, just my opinion.

EDIT: ah i see that you were joking, hard to tell over the internet

[Zulu_DFA]

Some speculation here.

Although, now, I think, it will not be an immediate prequel to ME3, but a story set during the Skyllian Blitz, showing how the Alliance masterminded it, with the help of Cerberus, of course. And maybe we'll even see things from the Batarian side too.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 19 février 2011 - 01:39 .

[Babli]

Notho wrote...
Why isn't Drew Karpyshyn doing this one as well?

I dont think he is still interested in ME universe. Maybe its because its evolving differently then he wanted to when he with other creators made it? We dont know, but there was really big mistake in last book(Kahlee forget about the Reapers...almost like ME 1 squadmates in ME 2 ), which made me think that he wrote it just because he had to it or something.

Or maybe its something totally different behind it.

[AdmiralCheez]

Zulu, fix your link. Okeydokes, you took care of it.

Meh, I can't be bothered with the novels, anyway. They only lightly reference them in the games, so I can afford to skip them.

Besides, need to read Ivanhoe and my geology textbook.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 19 février 2011 - 01:47 .

[Notho]

Babli wrote...

Notho wrote...
Why isn't Drew Karpyshyn doing this one as well?

I dont think he is still interested in ME universe. Maybe its because its evolving differently then he wanted to when he with other creators made it? We dont know, but there was really big mistake in last book(Kahlee forget about the Reapers...almost like ME 1 squadmates in ME 2 ), which made me think that he wrote it just because he had to it or something.

Or maybe its something totally different behind it.

As much as I hate to criticise, Retribution did feel like a bunch of stuff was thrown together and called a book. Maybe Karpyshyn was under contract to do three and he really didn't care about the thrid one all that much.

I'll probably pick up Deception, if only to avoid another "When the hell did Cerberus attack the quarians" moment.

[Hirohumi]

From what i've heard Karpyhyn was going to focus more on the tor game, i'm not sure how reliable the source was though.

[jayred vas normandy]

Babli wrote...

Notho wrote...
Why isn't Drew Karpyshyn doing this one as well?

I dont think he is still interested in ME universe. Maybe its because its evolving differently then he wanted to when he with other creators made it? We dont know, but there was really big mistake in last book(Kahlee forget about the Reapers...almost like ME 1 squadmates in ME 2 ), which made me think that he wrote it just because he had to it or something.

Or maybe its something totally different behind it.

Kahlee didnt know about the Reapers untill Retribution. I have read all three books within the last few weeks and the only problem i found was the question of Anderson's job title. 

[Sesshomaru47]

Quole wrote...

REALLY not looking forward to this. Ever read `The Flood?` One of the worst books I have ever read and it was by the same Author  .

Constant ammo references and spelling mistakes? Awsome can't wait.

[skan5]

Babli wrote...
... but there was really big mistake in last book(Kahlee forget about the Reapers...almost like ME 1 squadmates in ME 2 ), which made me think that he wrote it just because he had to it or something.

I think Retribution was sloppy in some areas, but its very easy for me to believe that a character is going to forget about a passing rumor told to her by a Quarian after over a year had passed, especially considering everything else that happened in between. It was like small chat that was never referanced again.

Anyways, the only book I've read of this guy's was The Flood and I found it to be absolutely atrocious. It would have been easier to just find a YouTube playthrough of Halo, as that's really all I found it to be.

Very disappointing news for me.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Sounds like an immediate prequel to ME3.

[Marta Rio]

jayred vas normandy wrote...

Kahlee didnt know about the Reapers untill Retribution. I have read all three books within the last few weeks and the only problem i found was the question of Anderson's job title. 

She actually asks for and gets the "what are Reapers" explanation twice in the novel series.  It's a one or two sentence description in each case, and easily overlooked.  I'm willing to give Karpyshyn a pass on it. 

[SudsyPatriarch]

one day they´ll run out of "tion" titles and use "Mass Effect: Digestion"

[Randy1012]

SudsyPatriarch wrote...

one day they´ll run out of "tion" titles and use "Mass Effect: Digestion"

I'm looking forward to "Mass Effect: Condensation."

[SandTrout]

The Flood was a truly terrible book. I'll wait for some reviews before I even consider picking up this one.

[Interactive Civilian]

Uezurii wrote...

No he is not, also people have to understand that Halo: The flood followed the first game. So everything dietz could do was very limited. There is not enough depth in the first Halo game to make a great epic story of. Can be wrong ofcourse, but read some of his other books and enjoyed them, so I'm looking forward to this one.

The problem with Halo: The Flood was not due to story limitation. It was due to absolutely atrocious writing. Don't get me wrong: I'm not expecting fine literature from video game novels. I don't mind writing that literature snobs would consider appauling. Hell, I tend to love "pulp" writing like Raymond Chandler (good hard-boiled detective stuff from the 1930s) and Stephen King (especially his earlier short stories, which are definitely more "pulp" than later stuff). All of the other Halo books were fantastic compared to Dietz's "The Flood". So far, I have been very impressed with all three Mass Effect books. They are not fine literature, and they are not meant to be. But they are readable and entertaining. Something The Flood was not.

Hirohumi wrote...

Dietz has written many books besides
Halo: the Flood, some of which are pretty good. I agree with River,
Bioware probably wouldn't let anything subpar (as far as the books go)
to be released.

A lot of people have said stuff like this, and it's pretty much the only reason I won't reject the Dietz Mass Effect book without at least looking at it. It only took me about two pages to realize that Halo: The Flood was terrible writing (I'm a bit masochistic, so I did finish the book; the writing did not improve). I figure I'll probably read the first chapter of the new book in the store, and then decide whether or not to buy it.

Modifié par Interactive Civilian, 19 février 2011 - 11:57 .

[Eterna1Soldier]

@quole

Well that's your opinion. I think Halo Flood was a good book. The book spent to much time on the combat of the Halo game IMO but that's all their really was to Halo CE. I guess you wouldn't like it if you're not into military strategy.

I just don't see any point to complaining about it. Dietz is a good author and I'm sure the book will be good. If not, oh well. Not the end of the world.

Modifié par Eterna1Soldier, 19 février 2011 - 12:37 .

[Eterna1Soldier]

@interactive civilian
I strongly disagree. No, the Flood was not "atrocious writing". It was simply too heavy on combat. But what was he supposed to do? The book covered the first game. And let's face it, Halo CE really didn't have much of a story. It was almost all combat. So yes, the author was absolutely limited in writing the book.

As for your "atrocious writing" - please explain. Do you mean poor sentence structure? Limited vocabulary use? Because I read a lot. I know bad writing when I see it. That wasn't the problem with Flood. It was the constant combat. There was so much writing about MC in firefights that eventually it got boring. But again, the author was limited.

Modifié par Eterna1Soldier, 19 février 2011 - 12:49 .