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[Deathwurm]

Firky wrote...

Regardless of whether the OP might have a valid complaint, how is that a publicly appropriate use of the word "abortion?" Not cool, IMO.

Yeah...I gotta agree. Really bad choice of words!
And I swear, if I see that stupid screen-shot with all the "flaws" pointed out one more time, I'll scream!
Looks like John Madden explaining a Football (American) play!

[FellowerOfOdin]

prazision wrote...

The graphics are technically not that bad, but the art direction is really awful from what we've seen. You can render a completely lifelike turd but it is still a turd. There are many examples, but one that keeps bothering me is Aveline's hair. What color is that supposed to be? It's the worst shade of orange I've ever seen in my life. The redesigned Hurlocks are absolutely atrocious, Isabela's outfit is garish and just... not pleasant to look at (and neither is her face or her ridiculously large breasts). A lot of the environments just look really... weird, like somebody just threw a bunch of random crap together without any thought put into the artistic aesthetic of it all. And let's not forget how much brown, brown, brown we've seen or how hilarious Flemeth looks now.

And that's fine, I guess, if the story is good. But the extended gameplay videos that have been put on YouTube (whether they're "the real demo" or not, I'm 100% certain they're the real dialogue and voice actors) showcase some bad writing, bad voice talent, and just plain boring story.

There's a famous quote about a publisher who could tell if your book was any good by reading just the first line - meaning, you need to put your best foot forward and hook people in. Well, if the story gets amazing later, that's super, but the beginning of the game is pretty poor.

All of this is my opinion and I am sure 100 people will call me a "troll" because that seems to be the most popular word on these forums and synonymous with "person I disagree with", but believe it or not, sometimes games are bad, no matter who makes them (ahem, Final Fantasy 11, 13 and 14).

I could be wrong and the plot could get great after the first 5 hours or whatever, but the bad voice acting is something that isn't going to change. At least the VAs for Fenris and Anders are talented, so as long as Merril is decent, that will be my party for the entire game if possible.

LOLOLOLOL YOU ARE SO STUPID BIOWAREIS AWESOME I AM MORE RIGHT THAN YOU LOLOLL THE WITCHER 2 WILL SUCK SO HARD ITS NOT ABOUT GRAPHICS STORY WILL BE AWESOME TROLOLOL

(paraphrased)

Expect angry replies by fanboys like the above.

I fully agree though, with the exception of you saying that technically, the graphics are good - because they aren't. Pretty dated actually. 

The (voice) acting, however, was truly terrible. Just take the ogre scene as an example...first of all, nobody even tries to help Bethany. Everyone just stands there going "Duhhhhhhh" while she gets killed (plot hole including, see how many hits other can take in a fight). And after the (boring) fight, nobody seems to really care about her death. Even her mother quickly gets over the death of her daughter and Hawke / Carver do not care...AT ALL. "Move on, nothing to see.". That's terrible, terrible writing. Early companion deaths might be usual, but seriously, how about making the start include 1 less fight but more emotional scenes? Sad.

Modifié par FellowerOfOdin, 19 février 2011 - 11:53 .

[Russalka]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...
On the other hand, I can also see why some people like their games cartoonish / JRPG influenced, I personally consider it a shame but some like it and might not like older RPGs (mainly youngsters that grew up with dumbed-down, easy games).

You just go around thinking everything you do not like and people who like them are inferior, hm?

[FellowerOfOdin]

Russalka wrote...

FellowerOfOdin wrote...
On the other hand, I can also see why some people like their games cartoonish / JRPG influenced, I personally consider it a shame but some like it and might not like older RPGs (mainly youngsters that grew up with dumbed-down, easy games).

You just go around thinking everything you do not like and people who like them are inferior, hm?

I said that I can understand those people and accept their opinion but yes, I personally, consider them inferior.

[Stardusk78]

My reply and answer to this thread...

http://social.biowar...1/index/6102135

[Vahe]

Ethical wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Every time the witcher is mentioned as a graphical comparison on this forum, a baby dies by imploding, Ughh the comparison was alright the first 65 times a poster said something about it, now it's being tossed around like a baseball during practice, please people use uour imagination do not copy paste,"yeah the graphics seem ok, but the witcher~****"

yea especially since The Witcher 2 is developed ONLY for PC, had they expanded to consoles they would have been very limited on graphics. 

They are developing a console port as well.  The console version will obviously have worse graphics.  It's called scaling.  They have nothing to do with each other. 

[Piecake]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

Russalka wrote...

FellowerOfOdin wrote...
On the other hand, I can also see why some people like their games cartoonish / JRPG influenced, I personally consider it a shame but some like it and might not like older RPGs (mainly youngsters that grew up with dumbed-down, easy games).

You just go around thinking everything you do not like and people who like them are inferior, hm?

I said that I can understand those people and accept their opinion but yes, I personally, consider them inferior.

You arent truly accepting their opinion if you consider them inferior.  Personally, I find it humorous that someone who dons the maturity and intelligence mantle can think like that, but hey, I guess not everyone becomes wise and understanding as they grow older. 

[Uomoz1987]

FellowerOfOdin wrote...

What exactly is the reason to make such threads?

It's a fact that DA2 has very dated graphics, everyone can see that, there's no need to make a thread and point at it.

We also know that DA2 no longer is affiliated to games like Baldur's Gate anymore.

We also know that the game got streamlined.

We also know that the new style is very cartoony.

Those are facts, so...no need to make so many threads about the issue. People know about those and you know, posting negative things on a forum about the game that's crawling with fanboys might not be such a good idea.

Also...stop comparing Bioware's current games to their older ones. There are 2 eras, one old-school era with RPG gems like the Baldur's Gate series and the current era with Bioware working for EA. I don't say that one is better than the other as it's up to personal taste and age. To me, personally, though, I just wish we could turn back time and have Bioware make the good old RPGs they used to make.

On the other hand, I can also see why some people like their games cartoonish / JRPG influenced, I personally consider it a shame but some like it and might not like older RPGs (mainly youngsters that grew up with dumbed-down, easy games).

softcore trolling

[Zkyire]

just jase wrote...

I know it will sound like im trolling but im really not.

Given that you signed up yesterday, for the sole purpose of creating this thread, I'll say: Yes. Yes you are a troll.

[dreamextractor]

WOW, this totally did nearly last to ten pages!

You people

Why so easy to troll?

Modifié par dreamextractor, 19 février 2011 - 12:25 .

[White_Buffalo94]

Silvanend wrote...

The graphics look fine, I don't understand why people want this game to look like Crysis, what a failure of a game...

You mean an abortion of a game
Anyway, yes, the graphics are fine, better than Origins which I was content with. Like I said not 5 minutes ago in another post, Idc if a game doesn't look like an IMAX film

[Zkyire]

dreamextractor wrote...

WOW, this totally did nearly last to ten pages!

You people

Why so easy to troll?

[Bad King]

I disagree with pretty much the entire OP except for the last part.

Bring on Skyrim!

Also I don't think he's a troll. At least he gives reasons for why he doesn't like the look of the game.

Modifié par Bad King, 19 février 2011 - 12:33 .

[Bad King]

Vahe wrote...

Skyrim?  You make me laugh.  Bethesda hasn't made a single game that wasn't complete garbage. 

If you're gonna trash Dragon Age, at least do the respectable thing and bring up The Witcher.

Well the Elder Scrolls 3 and 4 and Fallout 3 are generally much more well liked by both critics and fans than the original Witcher was. But who knows, maybe The Witcher 2 will be more critically acclaimed, the graphics look good at least.

Modifié par Bad King, 19 février 2011 - 12:37 .

[Tamahome560]

just jase wrote...
 The new art-direction is all cartoony and anime inspired.. 

Stop generalizing. Every seen Berserk? Anime or Manga? I guess not. Plus I don't know where people get the whole anime feel to DA2 from ...

[DrunkenMonkey]

This thread=

http://t1.gstatic.co...sT9AYNDJ-2JU_fY



trololol

Modifié par DrunkenMonkey, 19 février 2011 - 01:11 .

[Russalka]

Never mind.

Modifié par Russalka, 19 février 2011 - 12:42 .

[Quercus]

Annoyed Facepalm By Taiga.

[packardbell]

You're saying bring on Skyrim.. the sequel to the extremely shallow trash, with 5 voice actors in total trash Oblivion?

You lost all credence even bring up TES series.

yay bring on skyrim yay

Modifié par packardbell, 19 février 2011 - 12:53 .

[Zkyire]

just jase wrote...

I know it will sound like im trolling but im really not. Its just  that Im pretty dissapointed with Bioware and the direction their games are going in. The new art-direction is all cartoony and anime inspired.. over-the-top animations, weapons rediculously huge yet having no actual impact on whatever theyre hitting. Urgh.

For the sequel of a game that was billed as the 'spiritual successor of Baldurs Gate' it seems the whole thing has just been dumbed-down. Maybe im getting old I cant help but feel like bioware has sold-out. Is the next game just gonna be a dating simulator for 15 yo's to "squee" at.. urgh

What an abortion of a game.. bring on Skyrim

*flush*

Modifié par IEatWhatIPoo, 19 février 2011 - 12:56 .

[Bad King]

packardbell wrote...

You're saying bring on Skyrim.. the sequel to the extremely shallow trash, with 5 voice actors in total trash Oblivion?

You lost all credence even bring up TES series.

yay bring on skyrim yay

Well, it does look like Skyrim will shape up to be an immense game based on the released info so far. But yeah, more voice actors would be nice.

Modifié par Bad King, 19 février 2011 - 12:58 .

[packardbell]

Bad King wrote...

packardbell wrote...

You're saying bring on Skyrim.. the sequel to the extremely shallow trash, with 5 voice actors in total trash Oblivion?

You lost all credence even bring up TES series.

yay bring on skyrim yay

Well, it does look like Skyrim will shape up to be an immense game based on the released info so far. But yeah, more voice actors would be nice.

Sure indeed but people bring up the TES series as if the game is the messiah of RPG games. The OP says DA2 is being dumbed down yet brings up a series that was dumbed down come Oblivion. It just stinks of hypocrisy and considering Oblivion sold more than Morrowind you can bet your boots the combat won't change too much.

[jack_f]

I looked at some gameplay vids and totally lost even the will to try the demo. I mean it was clear from screenshots that this will look outdated but come on, the characters move and fight like in some cheap asian mmorpg, with huge final fantasy swords to boot.



For DA3 just ditch the combat altogether and focus on cutscenes/romances tbh.

[ROD525]

The graphics dont bother me at all,its the combat animations that put a bad taste in my mouth. The two hand warrior animation is horrible.What, swords weigh a pound now? The stiff slashes and one hand swipes...are you serious. It just looks bad to me. I was hyped as hell until I got an extended look at the demo vid. The two hander in origins was not without it's flaws but Bioware from what i've noticed dont tweak they bring down the hammer on game issues.

And how is it the enemys all swing like origins but the player looks like he's on triple haste or something?

[Travis the Moonstar]

This has probably been said before but:
I don't really understand why Bioware would lock the demo down to medium
settings with DirectX 9 anyway. Or why they haven't released any
screenshots of higher quality settings for that matter.

It's like they're trying to hide something.