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[Noviere]

Carfax wrote...

Unlike Bioware's creation which comes across as contrived, politically correct and thus unrealistic..

Weird... I didn't get that feeling at all. Probably because I don't consider it a given that every society imagineable would evolve to subjugate woman.

[Luzeka]

I dont care about graphics i will buy them both i like dragon age more. The witcher was more like good graphics, decent combat system,decent story and banging chicks and collect there nude cards.

[The Elder King]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Vahe wrote...
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I'm going to change those faces. Jesus! why do I have to play with those ugly faces? My good looking knight will not carry any of this two images.
I need a toolset. Story, gameplay,graphics, whatever... come next.

Well, to change the face in DA2 you have the CC. But I understand why do you want a toolset. Hopefully you'll have this for DA2 too.

[DJBare]

Estel78 wrote...
I'm aware of the medium setting but i have yet to read that the higher settings include better textures. As for TW2, it may have some DX11 support but the engine was primarily build for DX9. Again, i doubt it'll make a big difference.

I've already said this, and while I have no clue how much difference it would make, Mike already stated in the live demo I believe, that pc users will be getting extra texture packs, but I do agree with you, while the game will have DX11 features it will depend greatly on how well the devs implimented those features.

[Vahe]

Noviere wrote...

Carfax wrote...

Unlike Bioware's creation which comes across as contrived, politically correct and thus unrealistic..

Weird... I didn't get that feeling at all. Probably because I don't consider it a given that every society imagineable would evolve to subjugate woman.

Are you trolling or just ignorant?  Until fairly recently (probably the turn of the 20th century), every single society in the world "subjugated" women on some level. 

[Mihura]

Carfax wrote...

Erani wrote...

DA2 has good graphics IMO. Yes, TW2 seems to have much better graphics BUT I still wouldn't play that sexist and chauvinistic piece of sh*t.

The Witcher has a lot of female fans, and Geralt himself certainly isn't portrayed as a sexist. His girlfriend is a Sorceress after all, thats barren. On the other hand, the World itself is sexist and chauvinistic, but thats because it draws heavily from our History for inspiration, and as a result, ends up being much more authentic..

Unlike Bioware's creation which comes across as contrived, politically correct and thus unrealistic..

Although I like to agree with this the books do a must better job, the Geralt in the game is portrayed has sexist. This has nothing to do with having female fans, there are males fans there that think the same. I already had some discussion in the the witcher forum and some people just do not understand why some people do not like sex cards and most of the time call them stupid Americans

The argument that it draws heavily from history, is not that valid to justify all-female-warrior-characters-that-sleep-with-you, in history there were great female warrior just because you do know them does mean they did not exist. In this aspect I like DA must more.

Modifié par Mihura, 19 février 2011 - 03:27 .

[kalassy]

Erani wrote...

DA2 has good graphics IMO. Yes, TW2 seems to have much better graphics BUT I still wouldn't play that sexist and chauvinistic piece of sh*t. 

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks this.

I find it so ironic that so many people here are complaining about graphics, combat, and ninjamancing of all things are Witcher fans.

The Witcher has some of the most terrible lip syncing and motioning in the history of gaming post-2004. Even when the enhanced version came out, not much had changed. The combat is laughibly awkward at best, even more so than DA:O. Not to mention that you don't have a girlfriend, because if you had a girlfriend, you wouldn't so easily pressure other women into having sex with you and you wouldn't collect cards from them...

People are getting so excited because they feel that TW2 might actually have a chance at being more popular than a BW game for once (even though TW1 used a BioWare engine, but we won't go into that) but are forgetting that TW1 had MAJOR flaws, and the very things that you are criticizing about DA games are the very things that TW1 revolves around....

[December Man]

I don't care about graphics unless it is incredibly ugly or incredibly impressive. However, if someone asked me about my opinion on DA2 graphics, I'd say average at the very best.

Modifié par December Man, 19 février 2011 - 03:29 .

[iampool]

Come on, DA2 graphics are standard, Witcher graphics are kind of top notch specially for RPGS, plus they've been developing their engine for long time, and those are differente companies/games.

Everytime people compare Witcher 2 with DA2 all they talk is graphics, it looks like thats the only matter.

My opinion is DA2 graphics don't look bad at all in some screenshots / look like sh*t in other screenshots, do i care? probably -when looking at screenshots- ingame i won't probably think not even once about graphics.

Will i buy da2? yes, will i buy witcher 2?, yes, will i think about graphics when playing witcher 2? probably, cause those look really amazingly beautiful to me. Will witcher 2 make my computer explode? probably too.

Anyways, you can't expect serious graphics improvement in like 2 years of develop in a game engine like DAs.

[Marionetten]

Erani wrote...

DA2 has good graphics IMO. Yes, TW2 seems to have much better graphics BUT I still wouldn't play that sexist and chauvinistic piece of sh*t. 

I fail to understand how The Witcher is sexist or chauvanistic when one of the most powerful characters in the whole series is a woman. Is it because of the sex cards? If so, how is that any different from rewarding players with achievements for scoring with Morrigan or Leliana?

[HoonDing]

The Witcher 1, a 2006 game on a refurbished Aurora engine by a newbie Eastern European developer, looked heaps better than DA2. There is no excuse for DA2's shoddy graphics.

Not to mention the Witcher games are "all about the story", as well.

Modifié par virumor, 19 février 2011 - 03:45 .

[ScorpSt]

Let's not forget, we're comparing TW2 screenshots that were probably taken at the highest possible PC graphics settings to DA2 screenshots which have been taken at medium/console equivalent settings without any DX11 features active either (or in the case of the NeoGaf forums link on the first page, screenshots that were taken from a much earlier build of DA2).

I took a look at the screenshots for the Witcher BTW, and while they're pretty, they're not Thedas.

[Marionetten]

ScorpSt wrote...

I took a look at the screenshots for the Witcher BTW, and while they're pretty, they're not Thedas.

You're right. Not enough brown.

[VanDraegon]

Bioware has already proven that they can tell a better story than than anyone else. Frankly graphics are secondary to me as long as the story is good. With DA:O as a predecessor, we know what we are getting.

TW2 looks great, no doubt about it. If it is anything like the predecessor though, i wont get more than an hour into it and quit. The game play just wasnt very fun. The setting is great but that doesnt make up for it. Same thing for TES. Looks great, story was lame. How many of those stupid demon tower thingies that were all identical did i go into?

I know tearing apart other games in favor of what you like is a favorite pastime of gamers and DA2 shows a pretty big target. I am willing to bet however, after all is said and done DA2 is a better "overall" game than the others. Others will have better graphics of something but DA2 will give us a better gaming experience.

virumor wrote...

The Witcher 1, a 2006 game on a
refurbished Aurora engine by a newbie Eastern European developer, looked
heaps better than DA2. There is no excuse for DA2's shoddy graphics.

Uh huh.....  

Modifié par VanDraegon, 19 février 2011 - 03:56 .

[moilami]

Stardusk78 wrote...

I can't wait for my preorder and wanna know something? I don't care a wit whether the graphics are a bit dated. I am PSYCHED about the story and combat, the many different opportunities for different character builds, i.e. specialists vs. generalists, the romances, character interaction and the almost guaranteed replay value...

I don't give a **** if the graphics aren't amazing since I am convinced many other aspects of the game will be!

Who wishes to join me in this thought?

I will buy my next RPG based on which have the biggest boobs. Other than that I don't care much graphics, though I very much prefer if females don't wear pants.

[Marionetten]

And it's not just The Witcher 2. Risen 2 also looks miles ahead of Dragon Age II in the visual department.











I think we're all just disappointed as we know that BioWare is capable of so much more. I think it was Mike who compared BioWare to an Olympic athlete. Well, there's a lot of pressure on Olympic athletes.

[bloodreaperfx]

ScorpSt wrote...

Let's not forget, we're comparing TW2 screenshots that were probably taken at the highest possible PC graphics settings to DA2 screenshots which have been taken at medium/console equivalent settings without any DX11 features active either (or in the case of the NeoGaf forums link on the first page, screenshots that were taken from a much earlier build of DA2).
I took a look at the screenshots for the Witcher BTW, and while they're pretty, they're not Thedas.

I can agree that screenshots locked on medium is a poor comparison. But out of curiosity, how much better do you think a maxed DA 2 will look? I mean, besides the demo, we had some official screenshots as well as that champion trailer, which i assume are not "locked" like the demo. Dx 11 is basically Dx 10 with better multi-core support and hardware tessellation (we'll just ignore shader model 5.0 since im pretty sure DA2's engine does not use it).

[Malevolence65]

Luzeka wrote...

I dont care about graphics i will buy them both i like dragon age more. The witcher was more like good graphics, decent combat system,decent story and banging chicks and collect there nude cards.

Decent combat system? Did you play The Witcher?

[JetsoverEverything]

oh my god meign

[brownybrown]

. I will but DA2 and the Witcher 2. When im playing DA2 i will get into the story,love the VO work and really enjoy myself, when I play the Witcher I will love the graphics and enjoy sleeping with as many npc as possible and really enjoy myself.

I do wonder why Witcher has better graphics though, Is it a case of Bioware DA team spending their resources on concept artwork, story development, UI / talent tree / combat mechanics design, marketing and VO talent ? Maybe the Witcher designers, being small and Polish are hungrier for success/recognition and therefore go the extra mile?

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[Malevolence65]

bloodreaperfx wrote...
I can agree that screenshots locked on medium is a poor comparison. But out of curiosity, how much better do you think a maxed DA 2 will look? I mean, besides the demo, we had some official screenshots as well as that champion trailer, which i assume are not "locked" like the demo. Dx 11 is basically Dx 10 with better multi-core support and hardware tessellation (we'll just ignore shader model 5.0 since im pretty sure DA2's engine does not use it).

I'm pretty sure that the screenshots we got in the blog about the graphics were fully maxed out except for no DX11.

[madsabroo]

Vahe wrote...

Noviere wrote...

Carfax wrote...

Unlike Bioware's creation which comes across as contrived, politically correct and thus unrealistic..

Weird... I didn't get that feeling at all. Probably because I don't consider it a given that every society imagineable would evolve to subjugate woman.

Are you trolling or just ignorant?  Until fairly recently (probably the turn of the 20th century), every single society in the world "subjugated" women on some level. 

There are ancient examples that contradict you and plenty of tribal societies that do as well.  Which is neither here nor there, considering it's a fantasy game and they're perfectly entitled to subjugate whoever they want for the sake of story.  Elves and mages don't exactly have the best time of it, and playing DA:O as a woman there are many times where your gender is brought up.

[bloodreaperfx]

Malevolence65 wrote...

bloodreaperfx wrote...
I can agree that screenshots locked on medium is a poor comparison. But out of curiosity, how much better do you think a maxed DA 2 will look? I mean, besides the demo, we had some official screenshots as well as that champion trailer, which i assume are not "locked" like the demo. Dx 11 is basically Dx 10 with better multi-core support and hardware tessellation (we'll just ignore shader model 5.0 since im pretty sure DA2's engine does not use it).

I'm pretty sure that the screenshots we got in the blog about the graphics were fully maxed out except for no DX11.

Well yeah, thats what I thought. So its safe to assume the difference betwen demo graphics and maxed won't be that huge. The game just looks how it looks, no more no less.

[Noviere]

Vahe wrote...

Noviere wrote...

Weird... I didn't get that feeling at all. Probably because I don't consider it a given that every society imagineable would evolve to subjugate woman.

Are you trolling or just ignorant?  Until fairly recently (probably the turn of the 20th century), every single society in the world "subjugated" women on some level. 

Notice the part where I said "imaginable"? I wasn't talking about Earth.

I was asking if it was so hard to concieve of a society that isn't an opressive patriarchy, that when one shows up in a fictitious world that it's immediately written off as an attempt at being politically correct.

I apologize if I didn't make that clear enough for you. If you were confused or uncertain, you could've just said so. Or called me an ignorant troll I guess.

<_<

[Malevolence65]

I hope it won't turn out like Dead Space 2, with low settings looking and running almost exactly the same as max settings.