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[Doveberry]

Fadook wrote...

So sick of hearing about the wonderfulness that was Minsc and Boo. They weren't funny. They were obviously meant to be but they epic failed.

I disagree. They were hilarious.

[marshalleck]

Yeah, almost as hilarious as a robot that constantly calls humans meatbags. Oh man, so hysterical! Haha! Wow, I might just injure myself from the pure comedy. Surely it will never get old. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 19 février 2011 - 06:02 .

[bloodreaperfx]

Doveberry wrote...

I disagree. They were hilarious.

I agree with your disagreement.

marshalleck wrote...

Yeah, almost as hilarious as a robot that constantly calls humans meatbags. Oh man, so hysterical! Haha! Wow, I might just injure myself from the pure comedy.

Tell us something you find funny then.

Modifié par bloodreaperfx, 19 février 2011 - 06:00 .

[AlanC9]

Hey, you want insanely ancient, try playing the original Might and Magic. It runs from a DOS prompt just fine on my XP machine.



You'll need graph paper, though; they didn't dumb games down with automapping back in the day.

[A Turkey Frog]

To be honest I've never played any of the Baldurs Gate games, but from what I've heard they are amazing, so I can't really compare them to DA2. I'm sure DA2 will be a fantastic game, and maybe better that ME2. With that said my favorite rpg of all time is Final Fantasy IV.

[Maelora]

Doveberry wrote...
"This game is the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate 2, NWN and KotOR."

Agreed.

But what I've seen so far of DA2 seems more like a 'spiritual successor' to games like Bayonetta, Assassin's Creed, God of War, Devil May Cry etc.  I'm just not feeling 'RPG' at all.

The vast majority of the console crowd wouldn't like a game like BG2 at all, so yes, many of them are going to think this is better.  Because it's comparing apples and oranges.

[marshalleck]

bloodreaperfx wrote...

Tell us something you find funny then.

Bill Hicks was a pretty funny guy.

[marshalleck]

Maelora wrote...

Doveberry wrote...
"This game is the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate 2, NWN and KotOR."

Agreed.

But what I've seen so far of DA2 seems more like a 'spiritual successor' to games like Bayonetta, Assassin's Creed, God of War, Devil May Cry etc.  I'm just not feeling 'RPG' at all.
 

Then you're just not paying attention at all. Seriously, can the ridiculous hyperbole. It's only weakening your argument.

Modifié par marshalleck, 19 février 2011 - 06:04 .

[Fadook]

Doveberry wrote...

Fadook wrote...

So sick of hearing about the wonderfulness that was Minsc and Boo. They weren't funny. They were obviously meant to be but they epic failed.

I disagree. They were hilarious.

I'm aware that my opinion is a minority (non-existent?) one. But whatever, this whole debate about BG2 versus everything else is so stale. I played BG2 several years after it came out. Thought it was very good, but this pedestal it's placed on is ridiculous. There were some major flaws with the game and I thought there were plenty of things that Origins did better.

[Maria Caliban]

ManiacalEvil wrote...

Looking to be better than BGII

Half the games coming out this year look to be better than BG II.

[AlanC9]

marshalleck wrote...

Yeah, almost as hilarious as a robot that constantly calls humans meatbags. Oh man, so hysterical! Haha! Wow, I might just injure myself from the pure comedy. Surely it will never get old. 

So you don't get the jokes. Sucks to be you, I guess. Any RPG characters that you do consider to be funny? Unintentional is fine.

Not that I'm a huge fan of Mincs myself. But he was OK, and so was HK-47.

Modifié par AlanC9, 19 février 2011 - 06:15 .

[Narrsan]

So if you don't find something funny then you just don't have the mental capacity to get it?

Oh.

Modifié par Narrsan, 19 février 2011 - 06:11 .

[snakenax]

It's not hard to be better than Baldur's Gate 2. For one thing, not having Anomen and his horrifying baby the egomaniac sociopath romance is definitely a big improvement.

[Roseking]

Maelora wrote...

Doveberry wrote...
"This game is the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate 2, NWN and KotOR."

Agreed.

But what I've seen so far of DA2 seems more like a 'spiritual successor' to games like Bayonetta, Assassin's Creed, God of War, Devil May Cry etc.  I'm just not feeling 'RPG' at all.

The vast majority of the console crowd wouldn't like a game like BG2 at all, so yes, many of them are going to think this is better.  Because it's comparing apples and oranges.

Come on, I know that bashing DA2 and claming it is not an RPG is the cool thing to do but why do people compare it to hack and slash games? From the gameplay videos we have seen DA2 is just as much an RPG as DA:O and older "true" RPGs. Faster gameplay =/= hack and slash. 

[Pedrak]

Fellow posters who haven't played BG 2... play it.



Don't think "Who cares, it's an old game, it will probably look poor, I won't waste my time with that fossil".



It's a milestone. A must play for fans of the genre.



If you ignore it because of prejudices, it's your loss.



As for the Minsc thing, I suppose it got annoying because it has been overused in forums and reviews, etc., like the "meatbag" thing from KOTOR. Or the "enchantment!" thing from DAO.



God, I hate memes.

[Fadook]

Maelora wrote...

Doveberry wrote...
"This game is the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate 2, NWN and KotOR."

Agreed.

But what I've seen so far of DA2 seems more like a 'spiritual successor' to games like Bayonetta, Assassin's Creed, God of War, Devil May Cry etc.  I'm just not feeling 'RPG' at all.

The vast majority of the console crowd wouldn't like a game like BG2 at all, so yes, many of them are going to think this is better.  Because it's comparing apples and oranges.

What is your basis for this? Just because the combat is more fast-paced? Whatever, I'm gonna put more trust in the PC Gamer review as they're the only guys other than BW employees to play the full game. And you know what PCG says? That DA2 combat is more tactical than Origins and tremendous fun.

[Merced652]

Skyrim will be better than them all, hopefully it dances on the corpse of DA2 on its way to world domination.

[marshalleck]

Right, because I don't think it's funny means I must not get it. Uh-huh.



I can't think of any humorous characters Bioware has written that deserve the level of attention they get on the forums a decade after the jokes were worn threadbare. Let me see...well, I suppose I can go with the obvious. Mordin made me smile a few times, especially with his rendition of Modern Major General. Although that wasn't really supposed to be "haha" funny, nor was it my precise reaction really.

[AlexXIV]

A Turkey Frog wrote...

To be honest I've never played any of the Baldurs Gate games, but from what I've heard they are amazing, so I can't really compare them to DA2. I'm sure DA2 will be a fantastic game, and maybe better that ME2. With that said my favorite rpg of all time is Final Fantasy IV.

If DA:O had been 300 hours long it would have been better than BG2. BG2 was a good RPG but what made it epic was for once the fact that the protagonist was child of a god and the game describes the very long way to succeed him. There was nothing 'deeper' in BG2, just longer. The characters were actually not even as deep as in DA:O. You didn't even have something like 'hardening' companions. You also had only one companion quest. Only thing maybe is that you had alignment. Like Karma in FO:NV. If you get into the negative Karma region Cass tells you that you are a jerk and leaves. And about same happened in BG2 if you went too far in the opposite alignment of some companions. People are just being nostalgic. BG2 had 2D graphics, which were beautiful, but you hardly had cutscenes either. And you had no VO. You had to read every single word. And it had enough things to complain about, just as DA:O or any other game. BG2 'cultists' have a subjective view when it comes to their object of worship.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 19 février 2011 - 06:12 .

[Maria Caliban]

AlanC9 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Yeah, almost as hilarious as a robot that constantly calls humans meatbags. Oh man, so hysterical! Haha! Wow, I might just injure myself from the pure comedy. Surely it will never get old. 

So you don't get the jokes. Sucks to be you, I guess.

Feel free to enlighten us as to why a robot who continuously calls people meatbags is comedy gold.

AlexXIV wrote...

If DA:O had been 300 hours long it would have been better than BG2.

If DA:O had been 300 hours long, it would be been crap.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 19 février 2011 - 06:14 .

[kyles3]

Didn't take too long for this thread to get all West Side Story, did it? 

[AlexXIV]

Maria Caliban wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Yeah, almost as hilarious as a robot that constantly calls humans meatbags. Oh man, so hysterical! Haha! Wow, I might just injure myself from the pure comedy. Surely it will never get old. 

So you don't get the jokes. Sucks to be you, I guess.

Feel free to enlighten us as to why a robot who continuously calls people meatbags is comedy gold.

Well, first ... imagine you are 12 years old ...

[Merced652]

kyles3 wrote...

Didn't take too long for this thread to get all West Side Story, did it? 

been every thread on this forum since its inception.

[bloodreaperfx]

Maria Caliban wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Yeah, almost as hilarious as a robot that constantly calls humans meatbags. Oh man, so hysterical! Haha! Wow, I might just injure myself from the pure comedy. Surely it will never get old. 

So you don't get the jokes. Sucks to be you, I guess.

Feel free to enlighten us as to why a robot who continuously calls people meatbags is comedy gold.

Its how it all started and the context he uses the phrase that makes it funny. However your sense of funny seems be different than mine. I wouldn't call it comedy gold, but its worth a chuckle.

[Narrsan]

Maria Caliban wrote...
Feel free to enlighten us as to why a robot who continuously calls people meatbags is comedy gold.

Because it's the opinion of the collective.