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[Dean_the_Young]

Village Idiot wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

Jacob shouldn't be a romanceable option. I can deal with having a relationship with aliens and stuff but black people? That's where I draw the line.

Haha, funny.  Only, I'm not really laughing.  Not even a little bit.

Well, you wouldn't be our Village Idiot if you did laugh at it, would you?


Just not in your character.

[Dean_the_Young]

More seriously: most the characters.



If I want a dating sim with largely shallow, cookie-cutter romances for all the characters, I'll play Fable or buy a Japanese love-sim, because the realistic alternative is not going to be a good tactical shooter/RPG in which everyone just so happens to want to get in Shepard's pants without infringing heavily on the actual story and quality of the rest of the game.



Shepard isn't a giglo, and treating everyone in the series like their burning desire is a desire of Shepard is harem-style romantic immaturity. Simply because a player is interested in a character does not mean a character should be bending over, figuratively or literally, to reciprocate. No matter how much the player wants to see what else Mess Sergeant Gardner uses his hands for.



Mass Effect isn't an epic romance story project. Mass Effect tells an epic story, and then throws in romance as a side affair. Some people are interested in Shepard. Most people are not. Let's keep it this way.

[FaargAnNorgnal]

Honestly I never would have made Tali a romance option, at least not as we know it. I just think a quarian going all the way with an alien is a unrealistic. It might have been better and more memorable if she did love Shepard and expressed those feelings, but then accepted that she couldn't act on them. I suppose she does do this if you turn her down (and she gives you plenty of opportunities). However I was thinking something that would go on a little longer and end in a bitter-sweet way.

[Blze001]

I agree with Dean. I doubt every girl on the Normandy would be falling head of heels for MShep and vice-versa for FShep in real life, so it shouldn't be so in the game.

Personally, I think Bioware shouldn't introduce new love interests in ME3 and just expand on the ones from ME1/ME2.

[Xeranx]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

What characters would you prefer were not made romanceable in ME3?

I'm not talking about obvious ones like the Rachni Queen or the Elcor diplomat, but characters that actually have a following that wants them romanceable, and that could concievably be made a LI as fan service.

Top of the list for me is Joker. He's a great character and  I can undestand why some would want him as Shep's boyfriend, but the character was written as having a bone disease that would make shagging Shep uncomfortable, if not downright unhealthy. Curing him just so FemShep can consummate her relationship would be incredibly lame.

Samara would be a close second. She's a great character and *may* have been my Shep's first choice had she been romanceable in ME2, but now having played that game to completion I think the route Bioware went with her was much better. She's more interesting because she refuses to act on her desires, and because she ultimately resists Shep's advances.



That is a great scene, and I wouldn't want "In another time, another life" to mean "In Mass Effect 3."

I would also have preferred if Garrus & Tali were never made romanceable, but the cat's already out of the bag on that one.

Because people don't get married and have wonderful lives with those they can't have sex with correct?

[emmanuelsieyes]

To a certain degree I think that the romances are always going to be clunky, considering that BioWare doesn't have the advantage of time on their side. Hell, when you consider the fact that each major story mission is the ME equivalent of going on a date with that character, they're pretty smooth to begin with.



I think that if BioWare tried to made the dialogue more realistic, then getting 'stuck' in a relationship by accident would be a lot more likely. (Kaiden comes to mind. I'm a bit wary when talking to him because I am not sure which dialogue path is the exact trigger for his romance)

[Tachai03]

To be honest, I feel the squaddies should be up for grabs if people want them, while NPCs are off hands (with the exception of a few). Romancing Shiala? Parasini? The chances of that are totally slim, and they only met like, twice? You see your squaddies every um... Time you board the Normandy. (Not even sure if that counts as a day in space.)

[FaargAnNorgnal]

Blze001 wrote...

Personally, I think Bioware shouldn't introduce new love interests in ME3 and just expand on the ones from ME1/ME2.

I'm hoping to get the chance to court an alcoholic, depressed, batarian woman.

[Kim Shepard]

It would be nice if more romanceable characters would only like Shepards of a certain personality (sort of like an approval system, I guess). It always seemed unrealistic that Liara fell in love with my current MaleShep despite the fact that he never said one nice thing to her. On the other hand, he disagreed with Ashley on everything, and the subject of romance never came up. I would prefer something like that, or something like the Garrus romance that will only start if Shepard brings the subject up. More romance options, but less who love Shepard automatically in spite of personality or opinions. That could cut down on the chances of romance traps too.

[jeweledleah]

the problem with ME1 romances was that while they developed along the more subtle ways, it was also their downfall. you either had to be a complete jerk or know exactly which phrase would trigger the no romance lock (I believe with both Ash and Kaidan its "you're out of line" choice, and I know with Kaidan, in first convo you have with him, when he talks about BAat, you can select that you were getting bored and that will lock you out of romance without locking you out of further convos, with Liara, telling her that you don't want her to study you worked for me so far) what would be absolutely lovely is something in between the subtelty of ME1 and in your face options of ME2.



and yes, personality approval would be pretty awesome. not sure if it can be done at this point, but it would rock.

[Kim Shepard]

I think there are glitches in the ME1 romances, because if saying the "I'm not interested in you" line and the "don't study me" line didn't work, there's something wrong with the system. I'm not the only one who had trouble with the bottom right "I'm not interested" line either. For some reason, it seems like that one is glitched while the middle right "just friends" dialogue is not. With Kaidan, he always seems to think my FemSheps are sending him signals, but when they say that they weren't, I never have any problems with him. Others have had trouble with Kaidan and Ashley though. It's so confusing. And Jacob has the opposite problem. No mmatter what, it sounds like Femshep is interested.

Some of the romances did get it right, no traps, so it can be done. The unwanted romances can be avoided, but it can take a lot of metagaming - recruiting certain characters late, killing them off, or avoiding them. I just hope everyone learned what didn't work so it can be fixed in later games.

[vk418]

emmanuelsieyes wrote...

vk418 wrote...

Personally, I'd like there to be an option in the menu to turn romances off. Seriously, how complicated would that be? lol.

You can just select the bottom right answer.

I never understand this.

It's not like the romance options are exactly subtle, unless you're just holding down space, just pick no if you don't want to do it.

For the record, I managed to get through both games (multiple times) without triggering a romance on any playthrough because I didn't want it. I just hated that FShep sounded like she wanted to lick Jacob's face off no matter how obviously I wasn't interested.

I was just suggesting this as an option because almost every other game out there has options you can turn on or off, like, the most basic example in RPGs: making helmets and cloaks invisible, but keeping the stats.

You wouldn't have to redo the dialogue, you'd just have to "black out" the dialogue option that triggers a romantic response, kinda like they already do with the Paragon/Renegade options if your score isn't high enough.

You are right in that for most people it's really easy to see where the romance trees are triggered, but since they spell out the Paragon/Renegade for us with Red and Blue print (which I think most people could also figure out on their own), it's just not that unreasonable to think that they could do something similar with Romance.

[PrinceLionheart]

Kelly having a full romance. Although her light romance had its cute moments, it was also incredibly creepy how Shep kept hitting on her, like a boss would his secretary.

[AdmiralCheez]

mrsph wrote...

Kaidan and Ashley were so subtle that it was very easy to accidentally enter a romance with them.

Liara hit you like a truck.

I lol'd.  And then I stopped.  And then I read this again.  And then I lol'd some more.

[CroGamer002]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Kaidan and Ashley were so subtle that it was very easy to accidentally enter a romance with them.

Liara hit you like a truck.

I lol'd.  And then I stopped.  And then I read this again.  And then I lol'd some more.

[Rune-Chan]

As long as they can make it believable then I am not bothered if anybody gets picked.

Joker, Kelly, Shiala and Gianna all seem plausible, but apart from Joker and Kelly, what are the odds you bumping into them any time in Mass Effect 3? If they popped up in an unlikely situation just so you can have them on board it'd be strange to say the least.

Modifié par Machines Are Us, 28 février 2011 - 04:42 .

[Biotic_Warlock]

Did anyone suggest the matriach bartender romance?
I can imagine a kid 1/4 asari, 1/4 krogan and 1/2 human.

[nevar00]

Well apparently the rumor is that she's Liara's "dad", so do switch from Liara to date her dad would certainly be... uh... interesting. Can you say draaa-maaaa?

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Conrad Verner. I'd have a romance with the asari bartender, even though it might be true that she's Liara's dad (I'd tap them both at the same time, lol)

[Homebound]

anybody not romanceable in mass2 should not be romanceable in mass3. *looks at Joker fans*