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[DJBare]

Vicious wrote...
Graphics don't look that great.
They are worse than Mass Effect 2... Just an upgrade from DA:O, which had aged graphics.

I'm getting for pc, since I've seen no feedback concerning DX11 I'll reserve judgment.

[Estel78]

Again, that score breakdown was for DAO, not DA2.

[Nashiktal]

I still don't understand the complaint about graphics. It boggles my mine.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Cliffhanger ending. I LOL!
Well.. I hope there's option to kill Hawke at the end of the game. It's pointless to keep him alive. I'm pretty sure we will see new PC + Morrigan + Cassandra + Varric + new NPC that's going to appear in DA4 for the purpose to link each story.

Then in the end of DA10, there would be 10 npcs who prove themselves that they are the most important characters in Thedas.

Thedas peasant 1: Who is the Hero of Ferelden?
Thedas peasant 2: I don't know. He just some guy/girl who ended the blight. But I know Morrigan and the companions.
Thedas peasant 1: Ok, So who is the champion of Kirkwall then?
Thedas peasant 2: I don't know too. I know Varric, Cassandra and the companions. He just some guy/girl who become the Viscount of Kirkwall or probably dead unknown champion.
Thedas peasant 3: So this is the legend of player characters?
Thedas peasant 1: Who cares about player characters. We need good story and interesting companions only.

And so.. this is the tale of Thedas world. A tale of Dragon Age.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 20 février 2011 - 04:14 .

[Swanea]

Nashiktal wrote...

I still don't understand the complaint about graphics. It boggles my mine.

Because TW2 just looks a whole lot better in many many aspects.

[Vahe]

The Witcher 2.

[KillerYeh]

The Witcher 2 is a bull... You know what i mean))) I've heared PC Gamer UK gave it 94!!!

[JediHealerCosmin]

Estel78 wrote...

- unsatisfying ending

Depends on what choices they made. Also, I'm ok with cliffhangers, it only means that it's something to continue in a future expansion or DA3 (different character maybe, but still).

[Anathemic]

KillerYeh wrote...

The Witcher 2 is a bull... You know what i mean))) I've heared PC Gamer UK gave it 94!!!

You mad?

[Cyr8]

A DA game with recycled environments? Get out of town.

No, really, but this doesn't really bother me. No, it does bother me, but not as much as before. Most of the DLC took place in recycled areas. The side quests just took you to different fields that had different layouts. DA:O had a handful of areas that were recycled.

I won't mind.

[TGFKAMAdmaX]

Anathemic wrote...

KillerYeh wrote...

The Witcher 2 is a bull... You know what i mean))) I've heared PC Gamer UK gave it 94!!!

You mad?

didnt DA2 get that 94??? i dont see any reviews for the witcher 2...

[Blacklash93]

Cyr8 wrote...

A DA game with recycled environments? Get out of town.
No, really, but this doesn't really bother me. No, it does bother me, but not as much as before. Most of the DLC took place in recycled areas. The side quests just took you to different fields that had different layouts. DA:O had a handful of areas that were recycled.
I won't mind.

It bothers me since ME2 improved so well over ME1 in that regard. I kind of expected that improvement to carry over here.

Saying it doesn't bother you and it's okay just because it was in Origins is a weak excuse. DA2 should be improving over that.

[Blacklash93]

Nashiktal wrote...

I still don't understand the complaint about graphics. It boggles my mine.

You must not see many current-gen games, then.

DA2 isn't the worst-looking game you'll ever see, but it isn't up to par with the industry's other leading titles. It looks worse that the year-old ME2.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 20 février 2011 - 06:46 .

[Morroian]

Blacklash93 wrote...

It bothers me since ME2 improved so well over ME1 in that regard. I kind of expected that improvement to carry over here.

ME2 was an improvement on ME1 and DA2 is an improvement on DAO. Whats the problem? The DA series is never going to be up to the best of the industry in terms of graphics even if just because the greater tactical emphasis is going to mean that they simply can't.

[Blacklash93]

Morroian wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

It bothers me since ME2 improved so well over ME1 in that regard. I kind of expected that improvement to carry over here.

ME2 was an improvement on ME1 and DA2 is an improvement on DAO. Whats the problem? The DA series is never going to be up to the best of the industry in terms of graphics even if just because the greater tactical emphasis is going to mean that they simply can't.

Wrong quote, bud. I was talking about recycled environments, there.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 20 février 2011 - 06:55 .

[Morroian]

So pretend I was answering your next message then.

[Blacklash93]

I've accepted the state of the visuals, although that's not going to stop me from nagging Bioware about it.



Frankly, I'm much more concerned with the numerous design issues mentioned.

[Sierra Crysis]

It seems to me that this game simply isn't pen and paper enough for Gamestar if they gave DAO a better score, as they gave the combat a 10/10.

The way I see it is simply this..

Graphics: DA2's obviously better that DAO in this regard, but could recieve a similar score as it's expected to look better and is in a later year. So.. Expect a similar score 7/10
Sound: I've never been a big **** about sounds in video games, unless there's just some VO or laser sound that's extremely ear piercing. So, it should recieve a similar score. 9/10
Balance: There's a changeable difficulty slider in the game, so you can be cruel to yourself or break the game, it's also the same company, I expect a similar score. 9/10
Atmosphere: This, to me was what made DAO great. It wasn't the story or the gameplay, but it was just the lore and the setting and the world. It made me want to know more. I can't believe this only got a 9/10 in that review, I'm gonna say 10/10 for DA2
Controls: The controls were very basic for DAO, but really seemed lacking when coupled with the combat.. Yet, they recieved a high score in DAO 9/10, I guess because they just worked. Should atleast be a similar score for DA2
Game length: DAO was long for sure, but it was tedious... One's trash is another's teasure I guess, because the length actually sort've hurt the replay value, in my opinion due to unrelenting areas like the Fade and the Deep Roads. Still, it got a 10/10. Who knew. I would personally have more replayability, I feel from DA2, because it's feeling more like ME and ME2, from first looks, which I played numerous times. I'd say a good deal, but then I wouldn't have given DAO a 10 either, I'm saying 8ish.
Quests/Story: classic LOTR story with tons of quests that end in the same field over and over. How that got a 10 is beyond me, and I'm leaning more towards liking this framed narrative and a more unique approach on a story, that DA2 is taking, even at risk of a cliffhanger. (Maybe that's cause I didn't mind ME2 at all.) I'm saying better than DAO, but do I really think either deserves a 10?
Character System: I'm not sure how they can say fixed trees are a con of DA2, when they were notoriously so in DAO, and it got a 10 in this department. I'm not sure if they had a lack of things to write cons about and just added this or what, but I was happy with the trees in DAO, and I will be happy with these trees. I'd personally prefer they have more passive skills though, but... that's just me. Atleast equal to DAO in this department, maybe better considering I won't be 12 different colors in cutscenes.. (I hated that so bad...)
Combat: Again... DAO? A 10? In my opinion, Combat in DAO was a necessary evil, but then I hate having to switch characters a hundred times in a fight, it makes it feel so choppy and takes from the me value of playing as Hawke/The Warden. DAO would be lucky to get a 7 out of combat for me, and it would only recieve that because you can just set the tactics for your party members and do whatever you what. Even still, having to run around everybody to find one open angle on a genlock or emissary was aggrivating to no end. DA2 Improves on this in every way, in my opinion. 11/11 compared to DAO's 10/10... And compared to other games, Iono, 8ish.
Items: 9/10 for DAO? What with all the garbage paper and armor that was the same look the entire game? Or was it that the preorder and preorder based DLC was the best items in the game and there was simply no need to use anything else.. Regardless, it was garbage, and the few items.. weapons/armor I've seen in DA2 look much better. I really feel they were being leniant in the 9 here, so I don't see how they could give DA2 less in this respect, unless the few things we've seen are the only items in game.

In the end: The DAO score, if it says anything about the DA2 score is that the reviewer highly prefers slow, clunky combat, cliche story tropes, and sheer volume of inventory base, over some attempt at button pressing, and an effort to try something new with their series.

I love DAO, but I think honestly, they were being very easy with the scores there and a little harder on DA2's simply because it isn't DAO. To be fair, I think most games get retardedly high scores. And in my humble opinion, anything above a 70 is a good game.. It's not a failing grade, and while it's not the advertisement gaming companies would like, it's probably far closer to the truth in that yeah the game could use some improvement in more ways then one. The only way that I see scores in the 90's valid is when directly compared to games released in the same year or time period with the set limitations that they have there. Which makes alot of those old Bioware scores invalid, because they just wouldn't make the same scores today.

I love Bioware games because the characters, the interactions with those characters, and the sense of developement you have by the end of the game with a character you make, with a character creator..! Sure the story isn't  shabby and sometimes the combat is fun... But honestly, those are just above par if that. Bioware is the only company that routinely pumps out this formula with characters and player characters. I love this formula, it works, and as long as they keep it, I'll keep coming back.. And you know what? If they keep experimenting with the combat and other not-so-great elements in the games, maybe they'll work as well as that formula will. Props to you Bioware, I you. So no, I don't pay any attention to these scores so much because on my scores there would be really crappy ones or just normal which is like a 5, and then on other brackets, there'd be a 20/10 like on Setting, or characters, or format.

Sorry for the excessive text. Just my opinion.

Modifié par Sierra Crysis, 20 février 2011 - 09:22 .

[adi4444]

- poor level design with one-to-one copy-pasting of whole quest areas (do they mean, some areas are a carbon copy of each other???___
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i learn to accept the game and the chnages i think it will be good rpg after the demo i sew  and ill buy it..

 but that is the only thing that worries me!  just not the same side quests like in me.!!,.that and the length of the game...

[The Elder King]

adi4444 wrote...

- poor level design with one-to-one copy-pasting of whole quest areas (do they mean, some areas are a carbon copy of each other???___
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i learn to accept the game and the chnages i think it will be good rpg after the demo i sew  and ill buy it..

 but that is the only thing that worries me!  just not the same side quests like in me.!!,.that and the length of the game...

This magazine said that they completed DAO in 40 hours. They completed DA2 in 30 hours. Only a little bit shortes. Probably if someone finished DAO in 80 hours, the will finish DA2 at elast in 60 hours.

[adi4444]

hhh89 wrote...

adi4444 wrote...

- poor level design with one-to-one copy-pasting of whole quest areas (do they mean, some areas are a carbon copy of each other???___
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i learn to accept the game and the chnages i think it will be good rpg after the demo i sew  and ill buy it..

 but that is the only thing that worries me!  just not the same side quests like in me.!!,.that and the length of the game...

This magazine said that they completed DAO in 40 hours. They completed DA2 in 30 hours. Only a little bit shortes. Probably if someone finished DAO in 80 hours, the will finish DA2 at elast in 60 hours.

ok a little bit shorter than dao i can live with that ..but what about the one to one copy pasting whole quest areas ?

[FellowerOfOdin]

Hah, I just won 50€, that's awesome. Exactly the score I bet on by Gamestar and even the words I expected...worse than DA:O, still a good game. I don't know what everyone expected from a game that cuts major features and gets streamlined.

And cliffhanger endings...seriously? If that's true, EA has finished corrputing Bioware.

Modifié par FellowerOfOdin, 20 février 2011 - 10:58 .

[Gibb_Shepard]

Saibh wrote...

Am I the only one that felt like DAO wasn't really epic?

Yes, yes you are.

The ending battle in DAO was deep in the realm of epicosity.

[FellowerOfOdin]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
Yes, yes you are.

The ending battle in DAO was deep in the realm of epicosity.

This and the GREEEEEEEEEEAT BATTLE OF DENERIM where you fight 4 enemies AT THE SAME TIME that die with 1 hit. Truly an epic battle.