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[PrinceOfFallout13]

this is the metacritic score for the 360 version of origins



http://www.metacriti...gon-age-origins



86 and user score 75

[Saibh]

Savber100 wrote...

Well, a well-told story is subjective to personal taste.

Also, PC Gamer didn't say the story was bad just not the BEST. Big difference.

PC Gamer said that the story wasn't anything spectacular, but the storytelling was one of the best in video games. And, to be honest...was the story of DAO that great? The characters, certainly. But not so much the story.

[Uhh.. Jonah]

Unsatisfying ending... I smell a cliffhanger!

[Blacklash93]

DTKT wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

also since when is an 87 and 88 bad? would it really make that much of a difference if it was a 90?

It's not up to par with Bioware's golden standard of this generation, ME2.

DA2 being a step down in quality is what matters to me.

Each review outlet has different rating system. A 8 from Eurogamer is not the same as a 80 from PC gamer. If you consider that they both rated ME2 at 88, I would say that they tend to be "harsh" on the game itself. That means that getting a 9 and a 10 is quite difficult.

Also, rating a game in a scale of 1-100 seems quite silly to me. What did motivate the 3% drop from DAO and DAII? What did change and could warrant a 3% drop?

I'm not talking about the scores.

Recycled areas? Fiddly battles? That sounds like a step down from the improvements ME2 brought to its series.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 19 février 2011 - 08:29 .

[AlexXIV]

DTKT wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

PrinceOfFallout13 wrote...

also since when is an 87 and 88 bad? would it really make that much of a difference if it was a 90?

It's not up to par with Bioware's golden standard of this generation, ME2.

DA2 being a step down in quality is what matters to me.

Each review outlet has different rating system. A 8 from Eurogamer is not the same as a 80 from PC gamer. If you consider that they both rated ME2 at 88, I would say that they tend to be "harsh" on the game itself. That means that getting a 9 and a 10 is quite difficult.

Also, rating a game in a scale of 1-100 seems quite silly to me. What did motivate the 3% drop from DAO and DAII? What did change and could warrant a 3% drop?

I can tell you. the 10-steps is the general quality of the game. Then they give points if it has few bugs/flaws. So the rating might even change with the first patch.

[DarthCaine]

Catsith wrote...

For reference, they gave Two Worlds 2 an 85%, Fallout New Vegas an 88%

With those scores, that review's credibility just went to none.

I'll wait for GameSpot and IGN when they give it 7.5

[CruserBoii]

Honestly I think the unsatisfying ending may be one of several possible.

Modifié par CruserBoii, 19 février 2011 - 08:30 .

[slimgrin]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Unsatisfying ending... I smell a cliffhanger!

Don't even say this. My blood boils at the mere thought...

[Master Shiori]

shantisands wrote...

Maybe they mean that a lot of your quests end up taking place in the same areas of Kirkwall, like always being sent to the Chantry, or the main courtyard (or whatever) or the taverns etc.  It does mostly take place there, so for people looking for a huge world, maybe they mean that the constraints of it being location based as opposed to world-based makes it feel smaller. 

I think that's pretty much it.

The reviewer was probably expecting to be able to travel all over the Free Marches, like he could travel over Ferelden in DA:O.

A city can only offer you so many locales and if you spend most of the game there it'll eventually feel like everything is being recycled.
I don't think it's going to be as bad as it sounds from that review. From what I've seen of KIrkwall so far it would appear that each part of it has it's own unique look, rather then have everything look exactly the same like in Denerim.

[ViSeiRa]

Didn't they say the game has 12 endings? how different those might be is another matter but still the reviewer might have got one that wasn't satisfying to him alone.

[AlexXIV]

CruserBoii wrote...

Honestly I think the unsatisfying ending may be one of several possible.

Well it may be an open end to DA3 or DLCs. Depends what you consider unsatisfying. it's not like in NWN2 where stones drop on you and it is the last of the series.

[Purple People Eater]

Its not as if Origins ending was the be all end all of RPGs. I defeat the Archdemon, only to end up in the throne room where supposedly a parade in my honor waits for me when I walk out of the door. Next thing you know...im reading about what all the stuff I did caused. Huh? I wouldnt worry too much about the ending.

[Brockololly]

slimgrin wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Unsatisfying ending... I smell a cliffhanger!

Don't even say this. My blood boils at the mere thought...

Well, judging how Awakening ends with the Warden just sort of walking away then cut to slides or how Witch Hunt just kind of ends, BioWare hasn't been finishing on a strong note for their recent outings. The whole "world on the brink of war!" shtick with the framed narrative reaks of cliffhanger, for better or worse.

[Estel78]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Estel78 wrote...

- poor level design with one-to-one copy-pasting of whole quest areas (do they mean, some areas are a carbon copy of each other???)

Yes. The Lowtown in Kirkwall at night is the exact same location as Lowtown in Kirkwall at day.

Yeah but that is logical, it's the same place, just different time of day. I wouldn't put that as a con.

[ViSeiRa]

Estel78 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Estel78 wrote...

- poor level design with one-to-one copy-pasting of whole quest areas (do they mean, some areas are a carbon copy of each other???)

Yes. The Lowtown in Kirkwall at night is the exact same location as Lowtown in Kirkwall at day.

Yeah but that is logical, it's the same place, just different time of day. I wouldn't put that as a con.

Um, she was being sarcastic? Damn we need those tone icons here in the forums. 

Modifié par ViSeirA, 19 février 2011 - 08:35 .

[kingjezza]

Saibh wrote...

Reposting:


PC Gamer UK:

DAO: 94
DAII: 94

PC Games (Germany)

DAO: 91
DAII: 88

Gamestar:

DAO: 92
DAII: 87

Doesn't really mean much though if the reviewers are different. Rich McCormick did the DA2 review for PC Gamer but I don't really like him as a reviewer so don't trust his opinion all that much.

[Ryzaki]

Brockololly wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Unsatisfying ending... I smell a cliffhanger!

Don't even say this. My blood boils at the mere thought...

Well, judging how Awakening ends with the Warden just sort of walking away then cut to slides or how Witch Hunt just kind of ends, BioWare hasn't been finishing on a strong note for their recent outings. The whole "world on the brink of war!" shtick with the framed narrative reaks of cliffhanger, for better or worse.

I swear if its anything like ME2's ending I will rage and throw my gamecase against the wall. <_< "

[The Elder King]

DarthCaine wrote...

Catsith wrote...

For reference, they gave Two Worlds 2 an 85%, Fallout New Vegas an 88%

With those scores, that review's credibility just went to none.

I'll wait for GameSpot and IGN when they give it 7.5

Do you really think that they'll give it a 7.5 (only curious)

[CruserBoii]

AlexXIV wrote...

CruserBoii wrote...

Honestly I think the unsatisfying ending may be one of several possible.

Well it may be an open end to DA3 or DLCs. Depends what you consider unsatisfying. it's not like in NWN2 where stones drop on you and it is the last of the series.

True. I just think the 'ending' may have different variations to it depending on your actions and choices, but in the end Hakwe dissapears (since we know that he/she is missing / has dissapeared).

[Savber100]

This game screams for a cliffhanger seeing as it's totally possible with developers admitting that Cassandra might play a bigger role in a potential DA3, which means that there might be a continuation of the story. That and I can imagine DA2 ending with Hawke stepping through the door and confronting Cassandra. BOOM. The End.



Yikes... hope that doesn't happen UNLESS the ending gives a hint about Morrigan's god baby returning after the 10 years after Origins of which I won't mind the cliffhanger at all.

Yeah.. I'm a sucker for any reference from DA:O

[AlexXIV]

Saibh wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

No I read about the way they are rating. A jump from 89 to 90 is bigger than for example from 87 to 89. To get a 90+ it needs to be a perfect game with minor flaws.

I'll take your word on it. Like I said, three reviews don't mean a whole lot to me.

Do you know Drakensang? Does anyone? Not many. They gave it the same rating as Dragon Age. But Drakensang was a german product so I say bias. I am not always happy with their rating and what I get, but they are rather solid. If they have only one person testing the game thoroughly and writing the review it need not be one who has exactly my taste.

[Abbbe]

Gamestar is a pretty respectable magazine, I'd say that review can be trusted.

[AtreiyaN7]

Aaaand yeah, 87% or 88%, etc. indicates the game is good, which is fine with me. Any game that gets below an 80 is the only thing I'd look at with some degree of dubiousness. I'm assuming the copy & paste areas might be random encounter-type maps, but who knows (shame on you guys if you did it in major, important areas though).

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 19 février 2011 - 08:38 .

[DarthCaine]

double post

Modifié par DarthCaine, 19 février 2011 - 08:40 .