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[Catsith]

The graphics might be technichally as fresh as seven week old fish

Wow.. lol.

[Altima Darkspells]

I still think a sequel should be as good, if not better, than the original. That's why it's a sequel instead of, say, a squirrel.



And yes, I have a lot of disappointment in my life.



On an unrelated note, I sure wish they'd make a sequel to the Matrix.

[Abbbe]

Also people shouldnt forget that German taste in RPGs may be different from what people overseas like.

Judging, for example, by the succes of the Drakensang series there they tend to enjoy more hardcore old-school games. If you're in that camp, I think it's pretty safe to say you'll enjoy DA2 less than the first one just like the reviewers did. I have no doubt though, that DA2 will get way better scores than DAO on consoles.

[ViSeiRa]

And again people are reading too much into reviews and scores...

[Saibh]

DTKT wrote...

What is the "Bioware good". 95% average metacritic?

92%

[Count Viceroy]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Clearly this is an early review bought and paid for by EA/Bioware, just like the one from PC Gamer. Professional reviewers would review the full game, nothing to see here.

I see what you did there.

[DTKT]

Saibh wrote...

DTKT wrote...

What is the "Bioware good". 95% average metacritic?

92%

Why 92?

[Estel78]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Having a day and night version of Kirkwall Lowtown takes as much resources as having two entirely different locations.

Disagree. If you're in the same place, you save yourself building geography (landscapes, buildings etc). Anyway, if it's this that they mean, then they should have worded it differently, like "a lot of quests take place in the same areas".

[Tleining]

okay, i have the Gamstar 3/2011 here, roommate (who's buying them) is looking for the PC Games, not sure if it has been delivered.

Anyway, I'm a bit confused, what they have in this is more of Preview, than a Review. They only mention the rating of 86 Points (GS 5/10), that the game is 95% finished (oh?) and the only negative point is the ...dated(?) Engine (the same as in Origins).



Maybe i'll find out more, on the other hand i wouldn't believe these guys too much. It's pretty much outdated knowldge, Origins took 5 years to develop, DA2 2,5 years, so Bioware cut corners, yada yada yada...

[AlexXIV]

Saibh wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...
I know those scores are good, but they're not "Bioware good". It's a step down.

That's basically saying DA2 isn't as good as it could/should have been.

DAO:

Eurogamer: 80
Play.tm: 85
Video Gamer: 80
PC Games: 91*

ME1:

Destructoid: 70
Eurogamer: 80
GameSpot: 85
PC Games: 85*

*Edit

PC Games Bioware ratings:

Mass Effect: 84%
Mass Effect 2: 88%
Dragon Age: 91%
Dragon Age 2: 87%
Jade Empire: 84%
KotOR: 92%

Looks like usual Bioware Quality to me.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 19 février 2011 - 09:00 .

[upsettingshorts]

Altima Darkspells wrote...

On an unrelated note, I sure wish they'd make a sequel to the Matrix.

One of these days they'll make a third Godfather.

[Count Viceroy]

Altima Darkspells wrote...

I still think a sequel should be as good, if not better, than the original. That's why it's a sequel instead of, say, a squirrel.
 

Yeah, I'm finding it hard to argue with this. Might be the laughing.

As for the game, I couldn't care less what they think. I'll make up my own mind.

[Naqey]

Tleining wrote...

okay, i have the Gamstar 3/2011 here, roommate (who's buying them) is looking for the PC Games, not sure if it has been delivered.
Anyway, I'm a bit confused, what they have in this is more of Preview, than a Review. They only mention the rating of 86 Points (GS 5/10), that the game is 95% finished (oh?) and the only negative point is the ...dated(?) Engine (the same as in Origins).

Maybe i'll find out more, on the other hand i wouldn't believe these guys too much. It's pretty much outdated knowldge, Origins took 5 years to develop, DA2 2,5 years, so Bioware cut corners, yada yada yada...

3/2011 is the feb issue. 4/2011 is the new one

[Abbbe]

Perhaps the copy/pasted areas refer to optional storyline detached areas not unlike the planets you could explore in the first mass effect. That might explain that achievement awarded for "exploring ten caves".

[Noviere]

Saibh wrote...

Actually, I won't judge until I play it myself. Excusing Sonic Chronicles, JE is the lowest rated BioWare game. And I love JE.

Agreed. I don't even bother reading reviews anymore. And yes, JE was a great game. I hope Bioware explores the setting again in the future -- non-European fantasy is a nice change, once in a while.

AlexXIV wrote...

Do you know Drakensang? Does anyone? Not
many. They gave it the same rating as Dragon Age. But Drakensang was a
german product so I say bias. I am not always happy with their rating
and what I get, but they are rather solid. If they have only one person
testing the game thoroughly and writing the review it need not be one
who has exactly my taste.

Drakensang.

[ViSeiRa]

Tleining wrote...

okay, i have the Gamstar 3/2011 here, roommate (who's buying them) is looking for the PC Games, not sure if it has been delivered.
Anyway, I'm a bit confused, what they have in this is more of Preview, than a Review. They only mention the rating of 86 Points (GS 5/10), that the game is 95% finished (oh?) and the only negative point is the ...dated(?) Engine (the same as in Origins).

Maybe i'll find out more, on the other hand i wouldn't believe these guys too much. It's pretty much outdated knowldge, Origins took 5 years to develop, DA2 2,5 years, so Bioware cut corners, yada yada yada...

That's the old one you have with the preview.

[JigPig]

Saibh wrote...
ME1:

Destructoid: 70

Halo: Reach

Destructoid: 100

http://t0.gstatic.co...Yqv-7mAHs9LKDNA

[Saibh]

AlexXIV wrote...

*Edit

...? The point of that was? I wasn't try to show who was better than the other, my point is, "BioWare good" is subjective. Not every respectable reviewer adores the games we have made sacred cows. Can you imagine DAII getting a 70? People would flip here.

Yet, ME1, that most beloved better-than-that-dumbed-down-piece-of-crap-sell-out ME2, yielded a 70. Does that mean it's a godawful game? Hardly.

[DTKT]

Saibh wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

*Edit

...? The point of that was? I wasn't try to show who was better than the other, my point is, "BioWare good" is subjective. Not every respectable reviewer adores the games we have made sacred cows. Can you imagine DAII getting a 70? People would flip here.

Yet, ME1, that most beloved better-than-that-dumbed-down-piece-of-crap-sell-out ME2, yielded a 70. Does that mean it's a godawful game? Hardly.

Keep in mind that it's your own perception of ME1 and ME2.

[Naqey]

[quote]JigPig wrote...

[quote]Saibh wrote...
ME1:

Destructoid: 70
[/quote]

[quote]
Halo: Reach

Destructoid: 100



seems about right, now doesnt it ?

Modifié par Naqey, 19 février 2011 - 08:56 .

[Estel78]

Blacklash93 wrote...

I know those scores are good, but they're not "Bioware good". It's a step down.

That's basically saying DA2 isn't as good as it could/should have been.

Would you please stop it. They gave ME2 a 88 as well. So according to you ME2 is not "Bioware good". It is a step down from DAO, though, according to those two magazines.

[Abbbe]

Saibh wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

*Edit

...? The point of that was? I wasn't try to show who was better than the other, my point is, "BioWare good" is subjective. Not every respectable reviewer adores the games we have made sacred cows. Can you imagine DAII getting a 70? People would flip here.

Yet, ME1, that most beloved better-than-that-dumbed-down-piece-of-crap-sell-out ME2, yielded a 70. Does that mean it's a godawful game? Hardly.

Also keep in mind that the transition from Dragon Age 1 to 2, if anything, will be more akin to the transition from Mass Effect 1 to 2.

[Maria Caliban]

Estel78 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Having a day and night version of Kirkwall Lowtown takes as much resources as having two entirely different locations.

Disagree. If you're in the same place, you save yourself building geography (landscapes, buildings etc).

Okay. You're disagreeing with the developers who told us that day and night versions of the same area take the same amount of resources as two different areas because that's what they are, but I'm sure you're basing this on your detailed understanding of area creation in the current DA toolset.

[Tinxa]

Regardless of the numbers they're both praising the story and companions which I like. I don't care about battles and skill points too much so those aren't really big minuses in my book. I'm a little worried about unsatisfiying ending though :/ I hope it's not another disappearing hero.



I wouldn't dissect the numbers too much. It all depends on what the reviewer sees as a minus. The reviewers of one gaming magazine in my country have a fetish for multiplayer option for example. And next to every game that doesn't have that option theres a - saying "no multiplayer" and it's scored below 90 just for that. And I really couldn't care less if a game has multiplayer or not.

[Estel78]

Wittand25 wrote...

On the Gamestar site a poster who got his copy of the mag earlier posted the cometary of one of the testers. (Gamestar has a triple A title usually reviewed by several people to give better judgement)

Petra schreibt in ihrem Kommentar zum Test von DA 2:

Ach, ich kann’s nicht mehr hören: „DA 2 ist ja gar kein richtiges Rollenspiel mehr, blabla. Da fehlt die gescheite Iso-Ansicht, blabla. Die Kämpfe sind viel zu actionlastig, blabla."

Herrje, wo steht denn bitteschön geschrieben, dass Rollenspiele nur dann Rollenspiele sind, wenn jeder Kampf durch ewiges Rumgeklicke und Fertigkeitenaufgelade gefühlte Jahre dauert und wenn man sich durch unendliche Kolonnen von Skills wurschteln muss? Genau, das steht nirgends!

Und der Witz an der Sache ist: Wenn man will, kann man in DA 2 eben doch abendfüllend am Charakter rumtüfteln. Will ich aber gar nicht. Ich genieße lieber die gelungene Handlung, die fulminant in Szene gesetzten Kloppereien und die hübsche Grafik.

Die Grafik? Ja, die Grafik! Die mag zwar technisch so frisch sein wie ein sieben Wochen alter Fisch, aber sie ist immer und überall stilsicher.

A translation would be :
Petra writeds in her commetery:
So I cannot hear it anymore "DA2 is´nt a real RPG anymore, blabla, It misses the isometric view, blabla, Fights are to actiony; blabla"

Where is it written that RPGs are only RPGs, if every fight feels like it takes years because you have to wait for your abilities to recharge and have to dig through endless colums of abilities? Nowhere.

The joke is: If you want to, you can still spend whole eenings trying to opimize your characters. But I don´t like that. I rather enjoy the good plot, the fulminate choregraphed fights and the pretty graphics.

The graphics ? Yes the graphics! The graphics might be technichally as fresh as seven week old fish, but they show an immaculate sense of style always and everywhere.


I hope that transllation works. If someone could do a better one I would be grateful.

No need, you did a good job.