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[falconlord5]

Maria Caliban wrote...


Okay. You're disagreeing with the developers who told us that day and night versions of the same area take the same amount of resources as two different areas because that's what they are, but I'm sure you're basing this on your detailed understanding of area creation in the current DA toolset.

Link?

[AlexXIV]

Saibh wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

*Edit

...? The point of that was? I wasn't try to show who was better than the other, my point is, "BioWare good" is subjective. Not every respectable reviewer adores the games we have made sacred cows. Can you imagine DAII getting a 70? People would flip here.

Yet, ME1, that most beloved better-than-that-dumbed-down-piece-of-crap-sell-out ME2, yielded a 70. Does that mean it's a godawful game? Hardly.

I just wanted to add. We have PC Games review of DA2 and I wanted to show context to other reviews. General point is that DA2 is 'normal' Bioware rating.

[Purple People Eater]

I will take every review into consideration except IGN. That place has been going downhill for a while now. They talk out of both sides of their face over there, and im sick of their hypocrisy. Im a fan of 1up, Joystiq, Games Radar, and Gamespot. I can count on them to be honest. Game Informer is a good place as well, but they do tend to go a bit too easy sometimes.

[Wittand25]

Since somebody dug up the PC Games scores here are the Gamestar ones (in no particular order):

BG 89

BG2 88

JE 87

NWN 85

ME 85

ME2 88

SW:KotoR 92

DA:O 92

[Abbbe]

falconlord5 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...


Okay. You're disagreeing with the developers who told us that day and night versions of the same area take the same amount of resources as two different areas because that's what they are, but I'm sure you're basing this on your detailed understanding of area creation in the current DA toolset.

Link?

Yeah, sorry but it to me it seems common sense that rebuilding an entire area would be more work than relighting an existing one.

Anyways, I think the game is looking good, hope to some more reviews soon to ease the wait for the demo.

[Saibh]

DTKT wrote...

Keep in mind that it's your own perception of ME1 and ME2.

I love ME2. I thought it was wonderful. But you wouldn't guess by looking at these boards. People crow on and on about how dumbed down ME2 was, how much better ME1 was...but, like I said, can you just imagine DAII getting a 70?

I don't even need to compare it--ME1 was a wonderful game on its own, and I doubt many people here would call it a 70. Yet...there it stands.

Modifié par Saibh, 19 février 2011 - 09:06 .

[Estel78]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Okay. You're disagreeing with the developers who told us that day and night versions of the same area take the same amount of resources as two different areas because that's what they are, but I'm sure you're basing this on your detailed understanding of area creation in the current DA toolset.

I'm basing it on common sense. Link to the dev quote or it didn't happen...

Modifié par Estel78, 19 février 2011 - 09:10 .

[Merci357]

Estel78 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

I know those scores are good, but they're not "Bioware good". It's a step down.

That's basically saying DA2 isn't as good as it could/should have been.

Would you please stop it. They gave ME2 a 88 as well. So according to you ME2 is not "Bioware good". It is a step down from DAO, though, according to those two magazines.

It's in a way, and then again, it's not. And you know why? Because I don't care about an arbitrary score, I care about the personal comments. And take Petra's comment, she's just a part of the crew that sets the final score. And yet she likes the game, a lot in fact. And that's the only thing that has some value to me - not a number. Many games get numbers above 90, that I can't enjoy at all - and some get a far worse score, like Alpha Protocol, and I loved that one. But if someone like Petra, who's in the business over ten years, enjoys a game, that's something I can relate to - because I happen to enjoy most games she does recommend.

Modifié par Merci357, 19 février 2011 - 09:09 .

[Nerevar-as]

Wittand25 wrote...

Since somebody dug up the PC Games scores here are the Gamestar ones (in no particular order):
BG 89
BG2 88
JE 87
NWN 85
ME 85
ME2 88
SW:KotoR 92
DA:O 92

Most of those are from the time when notes below 95 were still considered good notes. Anyway I tend to ignore numbers and read the reviews. Sometimes they don´t even match.

[Nerevar-as]

About the bad ending, I guess we´ll get an expansion or Hawke will be back in DA3 despite the comments of rotating main characters. The way the narrative is framed I´m worried what will happen once Varrick reaches the present.

[AlexXIV]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

Since somebody dug up the PC Games scores here are the Gamestar ones (in no particular order):
BG 89
BG2 88
JE 87
NWN 85
ME 85
ME2 88
SW:KotoR 92
DA:O 92

Most of those are from the time when notes below 95 were still considered good notes. Anyway I tend to ignore numbers and read the reviews. Sometimes they don´t even match.

When were these times because I think 80+ is still a good note.

[Saibh]

Considering how many endings DAII is supposed to have, I take their judgment on it with a grain of salt.

[Herr Uhl]

This seems like good reviews, though it seems that the end not being killing big bad is detrimental to the story in their regards. (As that is my guess for the "less epic" and "unsatisfying ending" as well as the "not the best story")



I'd like to read the articles to see beyond the bullet points though.

[GreenSoda]

The only point that really bothers me is the "unsatisfying ending" one. (Well and the short game length -but that tidbit of information is known for more than a year now).

That kind of nags at me...I hope it's not a cliffhanger or Varric ends the game with "...and than Hawke ventured into the Deep Roads and was never seen again."

Modifié par GreenSoda, 19 février 2011 - 09:15 .

[Count Viceroy]

At the end of the day, it's just an opinion. It could be a German Smudboy reviewing Me2 for all we know.

[Dan_cw]

A key thing to note is that while a reviewer (pc gamer) may have claimed the story wasn't the best, they did say the 'storytelling' was one of the best.

Edit: Btw, out of curiosity, where were the figures given for how many endings Dragon Age 2 has? I've been keeping up with the info and missed it. I've always been interested in how much your choices might actually shape the ten year narrative, as I expect it to shape it some, but maybe not as well as other games. So, I'd appreciate a link. (Not saying I disbelieve btw, just would like to read what was said)

Modifié par Dan_cw, 19 février 2011 - 09:20 .

[Nerevar-as]

Saibh wrote...

Considering how many endings DAII is supposed to have, I take their judgment on it with a grain of salt.

They won´t differ in anything that would affect gameplay very significantly for DA3, so don´t hold your breath in that regard.

[Brockololly]

Saibh wrote...

Considering how many endings DAII is supposed to have, I take their judgment on it with a grain of salt.

I seriously doubt DA2 actually has many truly different endings. It will probably be like Origins where technically you had a bunch of different endings, but it mostly boiled down to whether your Warden lived or died via the DR or US and who you put on the throne.

[Saibh]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Considering how many endings DAII is supposed to have, I take their judgment on it with a grain of salt.

They won´t differ in anything that would affect gameplay very significantly for DA3, so don´t hold your breath in that regard.

You mean like god babies?

[Herr Uhl]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Considering how many endings DAII is supposed to have, I take their judgment on it with a grain of salt.

They won´t differ in anything that would affect gameplay very significantly for DA3, so don´t hold your breath in that regard.

Good ending = Inflencing sequel?

[AlexXIV]

Well I am also going to wait for more reviews but as it looks I am preordering tues or weds after playing the demo

I was honestly expecting a PC Games rating of 75-79 which would have been a bit disappointing. So I am sorry about all my complaining about Anders and the Qunari changes, seems like it is still a good game despite it all.

[Wittand25]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

Since somebody dug up the PC Games scores here are the Gamestar ones (in no particular order):
BG 89
BG2 88
JE 87
NWN 85
ME 85
ME2 88
SW:KotoR 92
DA:O 92

Most of those are from the time when notes below 95 were still considered good notes. Anyway I tend to ignore numbers and read the reviews. Sometimes they don´t even match.

Gamestar has never given a note above 94 in their history.
I agree that numbers are pointless unless you know who reviewed the game and what is important to the reviewer.

[Saibh]

Brockololly wrote...

I seriously doubt DA2 actually has many truly different endings. It will probably be like Origins where technically you had a bunch of different endings, but it mostly boiled down to whether your Warden lived or died via the DR or US and who you put on the throne.

I don't know, the ending for this game seems to rely on choosing a faction in mage vs templar. There's no way of knowing, but, again, that's why I take it with a grain of salt.

[PrinceOfFallout13]

it reminds me of the kz3 ,u2 and gt5 boards :/

[JetsoverEverything]

this thread got dull real fast bleh........