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[deuce985]

So, we know the overall story of DA2 will be about the struggle of Mages with the Templars. Doesn't this seem kinda small compared to DA:O? Isn't the Blights basically the great threat in Thedas? Doesn't it seem a small conflict compared to the Blight? I'm worried it will make the story feel less grand and a sense of accomplishment.

Also, I thought it was confirmed somehwere this was going to be a trilogy. How are they going to stick two Blights in the third game? This seems more like a side story when you look at the plot overview...but of course we won't know until we play it.

[MAD WHITE HAM]

sounds to me as if Flemeth may actually be the main villian

[Phoenixblight]

deuce985 wrote...

So, we know the overall story of DA2 will be about the struggle of Mages with the Templars. Doesn't this seem kinda small compared to DA:O? Isn't the Blights basically the great threat in Thedas? Doesn't it seem a small conflict compared to the Blight? I'm worried it will make the story feel less grand and a sense of accomplishment.

Also, I thought it was confirmed somehwere this was going to be a trilogy. How are they going to stick two Blights in the third game? This seems more like a side story when you look at the plot overview...but of course we won't know until we play it.

Blights don't happen back to back some happen after a few decades or even after a few centuries. Dragon AGe is not about grey wardens and the blights it about the Age of Dragons and there are other threats than the Blight like you know Flemeth. 

[JediHealerCosmin]

You can look at it that way, but the great threat has already been dealt with by the Grey Warden.
What BioWare is trying to focus on is this: Thedas is a large place, and there are many things that can happen here. Some less terrible than the last

There are other characters who shaped this world, for better or worse. 

[MJF JD]

theyd run out of old gods pretty quick if each game was about a blight.

[wulfsturm]

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

sounds to me as if Flemeth may actually be the main villian

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And why would the main villain save you from being killed? Wouldn't that be... the antithesis of being the main villain?

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[The Night Haunter]

Actually it seems like a LARGER conflict than DAO. In DAO the blight basically only affected Fereldan, however the conflict between mages and the chantry effects ALL of thedas. Minus Rivain and Tevinter.

[Count Viceroy]

wulfsturm wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

sounds to me as if Flemeth may actually be the main villian

[spoilers]

And why would the main villain save you from being killed? Wouldn't that be... the antithesis of being the main villain?

[/spoilers]

Err, ever heard of the concept of using someone for your gain? Flemeth of all people things should be prime example of this. 

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 février 2011 - 06:15 .

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

wulfsturm wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

sounds to me as if Flemeth may actually be the main villian

[spoilers]

And why would the main villain save you from being killed? Wouldn't that be... the antithesis of being the main villain?

[/spoilers]

Killing ends all the fun. If I was a main villian, killing would be the last thing on my mind when plotting over what I'd do the hero.

[MJF JD]

wulfsturm wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

sounds to me as if Flemeth may actually be the main villian

[spoilers]

And why would the main villain save you from being killed? Wouldn't that be... the antithesis of being the main villain?

[/spoilers]

main villain of the overall story, not the main villain of Hawke or even the Warden, she could be manipulating these people into shaping the world in a certain way that makes her ultimate plans come to fruition. Kind of a way cooler version of the Fable old lady.

[Riona45]

deuce985 wrote...

So, we know the overall story of DA2 will be about the struggle of Mages with the Templars. Doesn't this seem kinda small compared to DA:O? 

No.  Quite the opposite, actually.  Rather than trying to save the world, you will likely be involved with changing a current, widespread status-quo.

Also, I thought it was confirmed somehwere this was going to be a trilogy.

No. 

How are they going to stick two Blights in the third game?

Why should they?  The setting isn't solely about Grey Wardens and Blights.  Ultimately the Blight in DA:O was just the way the writers decided to introduce the setting and its various factions to us. 

Modifié par Riona45, 20 février 2011 - 06:17 .

[AustinKain]

Blights can happen at anytime in any part of the world, but that said i have not seen in the history of Thedas where blights happend in the same century. As it had been 400 years since the last blight in DA:O.



Lets see Mages vs Templars(chantry) is every where in the world excpet orzamaar and Par Vollen, so i would say a conflict between the dominant religion and the people they are protecting the world from is a pretty big conflict.

[Face of Evil]

They wanted to tell a new story that wasn't a re-hashing of the first game?

wulfsturm wrote...

[spoilers]

And why would the main villain save you from being killed? Wouldn't that be... the antithesis of being the main villain?

[/spoilers]

And if Flemeth only saves you as part of some larger scheme?

[XBenotto18]

another blight? why would bioware not make a sequal with the same plot. Oh! I know why because it's boring and repetitive

Modifié par XBenotto18, 20 février 2011 - 06:16 .

[Phoenixblight]

wulfsturm wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

sounds to me as if Flemeth may actually be the main villian

[spoilers]

And why would the main villain save you from being killed? Wouldn't that be... the antithesis of being the main villain?

[/spoilers]

It happens all the time in movies, books, and other media where the villain saves the hero. 

[Count Viceroy]

MJF JD wrote...

main villain of the overall story, not the main villain of Hawke or even the Warden, she could be manipulating these people into shaping the world in a certain way that makes her ultimate plans come to fruition. Kind of a way cooler version of the Fable old lady.

Flemeths utlimate goal is power. The archdemon would certainly threaten those plans. Thus she has it killed. While also saving the potential soul that could be used for even more power.

The templars and mages could certainly also pose a threat. Solution: have hawke instigate a conflict that weakens them both. Sounds like flemeth to me.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 février 2011 - 06:18 .

[XBenotto18]

villains who save the heros gay

[MJF JD]

XBenotto18 wrote...

villains who save the heros gay

thanks for your contribution

[Dayshadow]

deuce985 wrote...

So, we know the overall story of DA2 will be about the struggle of Mages with the Templars. Doesn't this seem kinda small compared to DA:O? Isn't the Blights basically the great threat in Thedas? Doesn't it seem a small conflict compared to the Blight? I'm worried it will make the story feel less grand and a sense of accomplishment.

Also, I thought it was confirmed somehwere this was going to be a trilogy. How are they going to stick two Blights in the third game? This seems more like a side story when you look at the plot overview...but of course we won't know until we play it.

The next blight shouldn't occur until after the Dragon Age.

It is not a trilogy.

The plot involves something very important in the history of Thedas.

[wulfsturm]

Then I'm sorry, Flemeth would be the lamest main villain EVAR.



"Hey guys I'm gonna save you. No wait, the Warden killed me. No wait I'm not dead I can't die. I just saved Hawke and his family so he can kill me off in some other gruesome way down the line!"



Yep, I can see it now.

[deuce985]

MJF JD wrote...

theyd run out of old gods pretty quick if each game was about a blight.

True because they only have seven and 5 are dead now. But I'm sure they could write something in if they wanted where they didn't exactly die. One would wonder how the first god even died and they perfected the Grey Warden technique used today to kill Archdemons. Wouldn't trial and error be involved?

I'm hoping Flemeth plays a huge role in this game. For a game called dragon age, you'd think they'd have more dragons featured. Perhaps the first old god is what possessed her since I think the first god never truly died due to trial and error involved in killing Archdemons(my personal theory). Hopefully they bust lose in DA2 because they seem to have a ton of misconceptions about dragons.

The plot just doesn't seem as epic in DA2. Are the Quanari going to exploit dragon power? I doubt it. Something tells me they have a lot more up their sleeve than this basic conflict going on...has to be.

Modifié par deuce985, 20 février 2011 - 06:21 .

[Buffy-Summers]

It is quite minor



They didnt pick out some refugee from Eden Prime to be the Hero of ME2 by making back to earth



It stayed Shepard, it stayed about saving the universe, and it was an epic storyline



DA2 Hawke feels like third string "hero"

[MJF JD]

deuce985 wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

theyd run out of old gods pretty quick if each game was about a blight.

True because they only have seven and 5 are dead now. But I'm sure they could write something in if they wanted where they didn't exactly die. One would wonder how the first god even died and they perfected the Grey Warden technique used today to kill Archdemons. Wouldn't trial and error be involved?

I'm hoping Flemeth plays a huge role in this game. For a game called dragon age, you'd think they'd have more dragons featured. Perhaps the first old god is what possessed her since I think the first god never truly died due to trial and error involved in killing Archdemons(my personal theory). Hopefully they bust lose in DA2 because they seem to have a ton of misconceptions about dragons.

The plot just doesn't seem as epic in DA2. Are the Quanari going to exploit dragon power? I doubt it. Something tells me they have a lot more up their sleeve than this basic conflict going on...has to be.

im sure there was trial and error but it was said that when an archdemon wasnt properly defeated that it would pass to the nearest darkspawn and become another dragon.  So It would be interesting to see how theyd try to say that they werent really dead.  But Awakenings did introduce that there may not be a need for an Archdemon in order for the darkspawn to organize.

[The Night Haunter]

wulfsturm wrote...

Then I'm sorry, Flemeth would be the lamest main villain EVAR.

"Hey guys I'm gonna save you. No wait, the Warden killed me. No wait I'm not dead I can't die. I just saved Hawke and his family so he can kill me off in some other gruesome way down the line!"

Yep, I can see it now.

?? this is assuming Flemeth is the main bad guy. That even if she is the main bad guy she doesnt have a plan that rquires hawke.

Flemeth is a master manipulater. You see this in her appearance, she appears old and frail to the Warden (and dies easily) but appears powerful to Hawke. Whatever she wants she doesnt go straight for it, she gets it in roundabout ways.

Any Glen Cook fans reminded of the Star Rider? Bioware writers must love Glen Cook. Which is good since he is an awsome writer who pioneered Dark Fantasy.