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[Count Viceroy]

deuce985 wrote...

This is exactly what I'm talking about right here and I fear...

Based on previews I've read, it isn't exactly warming. But it is other opinions...

Well, from what I've gathered, I would guess the game shows you how it starts, and by the end of it we only get to see a glimpse of the coming conflict. We don't actually get to see anything substantial of it until the next game. 

Oh well. I'll have to decide for my self. I don't trust reviewers at all.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 février 2011 - 07:02 .

[deuce985]

AlanC9 wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

It is trivial compared to a Blight. Everyone in Thedas isn't fearing for their life. I don't like it when narratives leave so many holes in their writing. The Blight is still one huge mystery and they could definitely jump into this more. It isn't like anything was better explained about the Blight, Archdemons or Dragons in general after Awakening. If anything, it just left more holes and mysteries. A lot of what happened in DA:O/Awakenings conflicts with the common knowledge and lore of Thedas. People believe one thing but was proven false and misleading...

Repetitive? Maybe but I'd like to know more about these Old Gods, Blight and Darkspawn...

This is awfully muddled. Are you concerned about finding out more about Blights or concerned that whatever DA2 is about isn't as world-shaking as what ahppened in DAO?

BOTH

I don't mind mystery in stories. In fact, the mystery behind Morrigan makes her one of my favorite Bioware characters. I don't like it when a story has no closure on those mysteries like Lost series finale. But at the same time a epic story between Templars/Mages could make me forget that....for now. But I'm worried it isn't. Make sense? I want to know more about the Blight but I will forget about it temporarily if DA2's story is epic. I will be a mad hombre if they never bring closure to the Blight mysteries too.

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Count Viceroy wrote...

Well, from what I've gathered, I would guess the game shows you how it starts, and by the end of it we only get to see a glimpse of the coming conflict. We don't actually get to see anything substantial of it until the next game. 

Oh well. I'll have to decide for my self. I don't trust reviewers at all.

That was the impression I got. If so, the good news is that the inevitable expansion might have a lot more to do with DA:2 than Awakenings did with Origins. Which would be great, in my eyes. 

[Count Viceroy]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

Well, from what I've gathered, I would guess the game shows you how it starts, and by the end of it we only get to see a glimpse of the coming conflict. We don't actually get to see anything substantial of it until the next game. 

Oh well. I'll have to decide for my self. I don't trust reviewers at all.

That was the impression I got. If so, the good news is that the inevitable expansion might have a lot more to do with DA:2 than Awakenings did with Origins. Which would be great, in my eyes. 

I would love to see the conflict set up from Hawke's point of view, with it's assorted expansions. And then see the events that unfold from another perspective in DA3. Maybe Qunari.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 février 2011 - 07:07 .

[deuce985]

Count Viceroy wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

This is exactly what I'm talking about right here and I fear...

Based on previews I've read, it isn't exactly warming. But it is other opinions...

Well, from what I've gathered, I would guess the game shows you how it starts, and by the end of it we only get to see a glimpse of the coming conflict. We don't actually get to see anything substantial of it until the next game. 

Oh well. I'll have to decide for my self. I don't trust reviewers at all.

That would be really bad writing in my opinion. Sounds like exactly what they did in DA:O in not bringing closure to anything.

I just want punch someone when I play through the Assassin Creed games. Talking about a game that gives zero closure to anything and just puts about a million more mysteries to their writing. 

Modifié par deuce985, 20 février 2011 - 07:10 .

[Count Viceroy]

deuce985 wrote...
That would be really bad writing in my opinion. Sounds like exactly what they did in DA:O in not bringing closure to anything.

Hard to tell if it's bad writing or not without going into details.I can see it being done fairly well.

But then again I could be way off. It's just a feeling I've picked up from reading all the different previews and what little Bioware has told us.

Well, I believe we'll get closure. In our story. Hawkes story. But the conflict as a whole will be continuing. I really doubt we'll see Hawke for another game after this one.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 février 2011 - 07:12 .

[wulfsturm]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Oversimplifying much? 

Yep, just like you are overthinking much.

[deuce985]

Count Viceroy wrote...

deuce985 wrote...
That would be really bad writing in my opinion. Sounds like exactly what they did in DA:O in not bringing closure to anything.

Hard to tell if it's bad writing or not without going into details.I can see it being done fairly well.

But then again I could be way off. It's just a feeling I've picked up from reading all the different previews and what little Bioware has told us.

Well, I believe we'll get closure. In our story. Hawkes story. But the conflict as a whole will be continuing. I really doubt we'll see Hawke for another game after this one.

Didn't Bioware say Hawke will be the most important person in DA?

Modifié par deuce985, 20 février 2011 - 07:15 .

[Anathemic]

deuce985 wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

deuce985 wrote...
That would be really bad writing in my opinion. Sounds like exactly what they did in DA:O in not bringing closure to anything.

Hard to tell if it's bad writing or not without going into details.I can see it being done fairly well.

But then again I could be way off. It's just a feeling I've picked up from reading all the different previews and what little Bioware has told us.

Well, I believe we'll get closure. In our story. Hawkes story. But the conflict as a whole will be continuing. I really doubt we'll see Hawke for another game after this one.

Didn't Bioware say Hawke will be the most important person in DA?

yup

[Count Viceroy]

deuce985 wrote...


Didn't Bioware saw Hawke will be the most important person in DA?

I'm sure she/he'll be around. What I meant specifically was that I don't think she/he'll be playable in a future game. I'm sure he'll be seen in whatever position of power DA2 leaves her/him in.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 février 2011 - 07:19 .

[Brockololly]

Anathemic wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Count Viceroy wrote...

deuce985 wrote...
That would be really bad writing in my opinion. Sounds like exactly what they did in DA:O in not bringing closure to anything.

Hard to tell if it's bad writing or not without going into details.I can see it being done fairly well.

But then again I could be way off. It's just a feeling I've picked up from reading all the different previews and what little Bioware has told us.

Well, I believe we'll get closure. In our story. Hawkes story. But the conflict as a whole will be continuing. I really doubt we'll see Hawke for another game after this one.

Didn't Bioware say Hawke will be the most important person in DA?

yup

I believe BioWare's marketing said that. Marketing says many things.

[AtreiyaN7]

• It was never, ever stated that Dragon Age would be a trilogy a la the current ME series.
• There's usually a long period between Blights - umm - several hundred years....
• The Architect seems to have other plans, and the darkspawn have quieted down for the moment. It's always possible that he could try to find another (EDIT) Old God and accidentally start a Blight, but I don't think that's in the cards for now.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 20 février 2011 - 08:04 .

[Felfenix]

If I wanted to play as a Gray Warden stopping the Blight, I'd replay DAO again.

[RosaAquafire]

Frankly, I'd rather a dramatic, cool political storyline with actual human forces behind them than a big lazy corrupted god. Yawn. If I wanted that, I'd read David Eddings or play a JRPG

[Count Viceroy]

Brockololly wrote...
I believe BioWare's marketing said that. Marketing says many things.

Well, they could be telling the truth. He very well could be the most important person in DA, at that point in time. As he's supposedly the instigator of the conflict. But that means little in the long run.

The bosnian assassin who killed the Archduke of austria who basically started the first world war was one the most important people when it started.  But he's certainly isn't the most important person looking back at it now.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 20 février 2011 - 07:31 .

[RosaAquafire]

I think by Hawke being the most important person in Thedas history, they just mean that he is the person who puts events into motion that completely change the fate of the continent and breaks the camel's back on things that have been building for centuries. Just like, yes, the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.

[Maria Caliban]

deuce985 wrote...

Didn't Bioware say Hawke will be the most important person in DA?

I suspect that's marketing speak to calm fears that DA II won't be EPIK!! enough.

[mesmerizedish]

Maria Caliban wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

Didn't Bioware say Hawke will be the most important person in DA?

I suspect that's marketing speak to calm fears that DA II won't be EPIK!! enough.

Think like a general, fight like a Spartan

[Yalision]

So far Dragon Age is the story of Flemeth and her daughter. Whatever is happening in Kirkwall is valuable to Flemeth in some capacity, so the story follows her latest lackey - Hawke - to that location. Lets not forget, The Warden was saved ONLY so that he could perform the Dark Ritual. Failing that, the Warden truly defied Flemeth and that to me was the actual victory of the game.

Hawke is sent to Kirkwall with a package or something from Flemeth I believe. To what end, we don't know. If it means I have to kill Hawke as well, so be it. I'm kind of liking this "final fantasy" style Dragon Age is taking - a new adventure with a new hero every time thus far.

[HolyJellyfish]

deuce985 wrote...

So, we know the overall story of DA2 will be about the struggle of Mages with the Templars. Doesn't this seem kinda small compared to DA:O? Isn't the Blights basically the great threat in Thedas? Doesn't it seem a small conflict compared to the Blight? I'm worried it will make the story feel less grand and a sense of accomplishment.

Also, I thought it was confirmed somehwere this was going to be a trilogy. How are they going to stick two Blights in the third game? This seems more like a side story when you look at the plot overview...but of course we won't know until we play it.

The blight happens after long periods of time. The only people who are truly affected by the Darkspawn in a meaningful way are the Dwarves, whose culture is quickly diminishing.

I believe (though I could be wrong) that the real overarching story is about the origins of the Blights, which may or may not be intimately connected with the Chantry's story. And since the Chantry largely attacks mages (Be they Dalish, Human, or otherwise) who maybe able to answer these questions .... well you get my drift. For the truth to unravel, the Chantry must be challenged as it currently stands.

[Sprocker117]

If I want to see another Blight, I wanna see it in another country. Give Ferelden a break. In fact, why not have the Blight start in the Anderfels, against 1000+ Grey Wardens and the head honcho himself.

[werewoof]

Why would you want another Blight? It would seem like too much of a repeat of DA:O if you ask me. I mean sure they could make the story plenty different, but it'd still ultimately be the same principal: become a Grey Warden, wander around solving everyone's problems for them before they'll help you, and kill the Archdemon.



I'm excited to play a new character who isn't a warden in a different location with a different antagonist.

[Dan_cw]

You folks ever read Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire? There was a heck of a lot of backstabbing and political moves for the throne in that.

It didn't make for a dull story either. (There's still the threat from beyond the wall, but it's not the main story thread and it's rather low-key fantasy as it's more human based)

Modifié par Dan_cw, 20 février 2011 - 10:00 .

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Dan_cw wrote...

You folks ever read Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire? There was a heck of a lot of backstabbing and political moves for the throne in that.

It didn't make for a dull story either. (There's still the threat from beyond the wall, but it's not the main story thread and it's rather low-key fantasy as it's more human based)

Well, other than the dullness of having children, then having grandchildren since the last installment, you're right. A Song of Ice and Fire was quite good.  

I wonder if the TV show will ever get off the ground. I want to see Lena Headey back on TV!

[Dan_cw]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

Dan_cw wrote...

You folks ever read Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire? There was a heck of a lot of backstabbing and political moves for the throne in that.

It didn't make for a dull story either. (There's still the threat from beyond the wall, but it's not the main story thread and it's rather low-key fantasy as it's more human based)

Well, other than the dullness of having children, then having grandchildren since the last installment, you're right. A Song of Ice and Fire was quite good.  

I wonder if the TV show will ever get off the ground. I want to see Lena Headey back on TV!

I'm looking forward to that. It's a pity Martin is taking so long with the next book. If people are looking for some other fantasy series to get into while waiting that may actually be finished, Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen is a good choice.

Hard to get into and complex though. It's set on an epic scale as well.

They're really the authors that others should aspire to follow rather than following the tried and true evil menace needs to be defeated by elves and dwarves route. They're quite original.

Edit: I'm sure the series will be released as well.

Modifié par Dan_cw, 20 février 2011 - 10:12 .