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[Merced652]

because you don't see mass effect being about some random joe that isn't human and isn't a complete bad ass. THIS IS THE NEW ****.

[Ariella]

wulfsturm wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

sounds to me as if Flemeth may actually be the main villian

[spoilers]

And why would the main villain save you from being killed? Wouldn't that be... the antithesis of being the main villain?

[/spoilers]

Not like Bioware hasn't done that before... Though I'm thinking Flemeth is more a force of nature that good or evil at this point.

[Herr Uhl]

Mordaedil wrote...

DA:O was going to be much better, but it really wasn't. DA2 isn't however aiming to break new ground either. This framed story that they've got going feels old already from the first cut-scene and it was already done better in Alpha Protocol.

Considering that all three reviews thus far have hailed the story-telling, I think it is a little early to make that claim.

[RunNeonTiger]

Someone may have already pointed this out, but the fate of Thedas was not on the line in DAO, it was the fate of Ferelden. So no, I don't believe you were actually saving the world in DAO. Yes, if the Blight had gone unchecked there's a possibility that it could have spread to the other countries, but it seems the majority of Blights are ended before that ever becomes the case. I honestly probably wouldn't buy DA2 if it was about another Blight.

Modifié par RunNeonTiger, 20 février 2011 - 05:54 .

[earl of the north]

Ferelden was screwed,but Orlais was next in line with an intact army and force of Grey Wardens.....so Yeah, our mc was the hero of Ferelden, but to most of the Thedas he was some guy/girl the Fereldens claimed to stop a blight.

Another mc collects group of heroes and slays the archdemon wouldn't have been my first choice as the plot of DA2.

Modifié par earl of the north, 20 février 2011 - 06:02 .

[Melness]

earl of the north wrote...

Ferelden was screwed,but Orlais was next in line with an intact army and force of Grey Wardens.....so Yeah, our mc was the hero of Ferelden, but to most of Thedas he/she was some guy/girl the Fereldans claimed to have stopped a blight.......most of Thedas is probably still not convinced there even was a blight.

Duncan said that if the Blight left Ferelden, it would be too strong and would require an alliance of nations to stop it.

So even Orlais wouldn't manage to solo it.

[deuce985]

RunNeonTiger wrote...

Someone may have already pointed this out, but the fate of Thedas was not on the line in DAO, it was the fate of Ferelden. So no, I don't believe you were actually saving the world in DAO. Yes, if the Blight had gone unchecked there's a possibility that it could have spread to the other countries, but it seems the majority of Blights are ended before that ever becomes the case. I honestly probably wouldn't buy DA2 if it was about another Blight.

It isn't a possibility, it would happen based on previous lore with the Blights. The one in DA:O was minor because it ended so quickly. The Blights before that were much bigger in scale. It was still a struggle for Thedas and probably the entire world. The Blight would be in every country on Thedas and beyond that, no telling how far it would spread since we don't know what is beyond Thedas.

Modifié par deuce985, 20 février 2011 - 06:03 .

[marcusgs221]

With the darkspawn being "free" by the ritual in awakening the concept of a blight changes they are no longer mindless beasts the darkspawn could now become a consistent threat to the world and not just dwarfs

[earl of the north]

Melness wrote...

Duncan said that if the Blight left Ferelden, it would be too strong and would require an alliance of nations to stop it.

So even Orlais wouldn't manage to solo it.

Orlais can due to the Chantry put together such an alliance fairly easily (and wasn't in the middle of a civil war), the Anderfels GW's would have time to reinforce them, the Chantry could call an Exalted march etc.......it would have been a tougher fight, but previous blights were much tougher.

Edit: Also there is the 'Orleasian GW' from Awakenings waiting to be the replacement hero.

Modifié par earl of the north, 20 février 2011 - 06:19 .

[ThatGamerWithSouvlaki285]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

MAD WHITE HAM wrote...

sounds to me as if Flemeth may actually be the main villian

[spoilers]

And why would the main villain save you from being killed? Wouldn't that be... the antithesis of being the main villain?

[/spoilers]

Killing ends all the fun. If I was a main villian, killing would be the last thing on my mind when plotting over what I'd do the hero.

And let him/her become more powerful and/or gain more allies against you. Have you not seen any james bond films or any other similar films. I say kill them early and quickly so you don't have to worry about him while you are going about your villanous plans.

[deuce985]

marcusgs221 wrote...

With the darkspawn being "free" by the ritual in awakening the concept of a blight changes they are no longer mindless beasts the darkspawn could now become a consistent threat to the world and not just dwarfs

Which is one thing I find interesting that wasn't clarified. It seemed like Darkspawn were going through evolution and that alone could be a greater threat than a normal Blight. Darkspawn with personality? To arms! The darkspawn story isn't over for sure.

Modifié par deuce985, 20 février 2011 - 06:07 .

[marcusgs221]

They need something new and original if they want to break out of the lord of the rings mold changing the elves social position and mortality were a start but bad guy builds orc I mean darkspawn army and fails right before grasping victory just isn't entertaining anymore it's played out

[FaeQueenCory]

deuce985 wrote...

So, we know the overall story of DA2 will be about the struggle of Mages with the Templars. Doesn't this seem kinda small compared to DA:O? Isn't the Blights basically the great threat in Thedas? Doesn't it seem a small conflict compared to the Blight? I'm worried it will make the story feel less grand and a sense of accomplishment.

Also, I thought it was confirmed somehwere this was going to be a trilogy. How are they going to stick two Blights in the third game? This seems more like a side story when you look at the plot overview...but of course we won't know until we play it.

That's easy... DOUBLE-BLIGHT!!!!
The wardens already know the location of the two remaining old-gods.... and so does the Architect (though he probably wouldn't cause a blight again on purpose.... he's too empyrical to not perhaps accidentally cause one. I mean, that's what made Urthemiel wake up...)... So perhaps some crazy series of events happen that causes two Archdemons to exist at the same time.

[Lukas Kristjanson]

FaeQueenCory wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

So, we know the overall story of DA2 will be about the struggle of Mages with the Templars. Doesn't this seem kinda small compared to DA:O? Isn't the Blights basically the great threat in Thedas? Doesn't it seem a small conflict compared to the Blight? I'm worried it will make the story feel less grand and a sense of accomplishment.

Also, I thought it was confirmed somehwere this was going to be a trilogy. How are they going to stick two Blights in the third game? This seems more like a side story when you look at the plot overview...but of course we won't know until we play it.

That's easy... DOUBLE-BLIGHT!!!!
The wardens already know the location of the two remaining old-gods.... and so does the Architect (though he probably wouldn't cause a blight again on purpose.... he's too empyrical to not perhaps accidentally cause one. I mean, that's what made Urthemiel wake up...)... So perhaps some crazy series of events happen that causes two Archdemons to exist at the same time.

That would certainly meet the expectations of the exponential gain of gaming--you fight an archdemon in one game, that must mean you need to fight two in the next, then they are downgraded to lieutenants and you fight packs of five and an ultrarchdemonaut in the third. In the fourth you punch a mountain. In SPACE!

[mesmerizedish]

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

That would certainly meet the expectations of the exponential gain of gaming--you fight an archdemon in one game, that must mean you need to fight two in the next, then they are downgraded to lieutenants and you fight packs of five and an ultrarchdemonaut in the third. In the fourth you punch a mountain. In SPACE!

Hmmm... I love you. Did I mention I found your grave outside the Temple of Helm in Nashkel? I cried.

[Drowsy0106]

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

FaeQueenCory wrote...

deuce985 wrote...

So, we know the overall story of DA2 will be about the struggle of Mages with the Templars. Doesn't this seem kinda small compared to DA:O? Isn't the Blights basically the great threat in Thedas? Doesn't it seem a small conflict compared to the Blight? I'm worried it will make the story feel less grand and a sense of accomplishment.

Also, I thought it was confirmed somehwere this was going to be a trilogy. How are they going to stick two Blights in the third game? This seems more like a side story when you look at the plot overview...but of course we won't know until we play it.

That's easy... DOUBLE-BLIGHT!!!!
The wardens already know the location of the two remaining old-gods.... and so does the Architect (though he probably wouldn't cause a blight again on purpose.... he's too empyrical to not perhaps accidentally cause one. I mean, that's what made Urthemiel wake up...)... So perhaps some crazy series of events happen that causes two Archdemons to exist at the same time.

That would certainly meet the expectations of the exponential gain of gaming--you fight an archdemon in one game, that must mean you need to fight two in the next, then they are downgraded to lieutenants and you fight packs of five and an ultrarchdemonaut in the third. In the fourth you punch a mountain. In SPACE!

lol

[SomeBug]

Are all Archdemons in dragon form? That's kinda boring.

[Weltenschlange]

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

That would certainly meet the expectations of the exponential gain of gaming--you fight an archdemon in one game, that must mean you need to fight two in the next, then they are downgraded to lieutenants and you fight packs of five and an ultrarchdemonaut in the third. In the fourth you punch a mountain. In SPACE!

Oh Jade Empire how I miss thee...

[Zalocx]

As for Hawke being the "most important person in Dragon Age" that is hardly hard to grasp. Hawke's actions break the Chantry and put the whole world at the brink of war. Who else has done something this momentousness in the Dragon Age? Maric and Logain kicking out the Orlisians? That happens several times a century in several kingdoms I bet. Flemeth? She isn't a person but a force of nature and has been around for eons apparently. The Warden? Broke the blight before it even began, that's commendable but in my opinion he didn't shift the balance of power Thedas like Hawke did.



Remember the last century or so of the Tivinter imperium? Who does the average person in Thedas consider more important from that time? The Anders soldiers who became the first Grey Wardens and slew Dumat or Andastre who probably never fought a dragon in her life?



History might well look back upon the Dragon Age and name Hawke as the most influential person to live during those 100 years. And considering s/he broke the social order of the entire continent I would claim its a proper estimation regardless of how many dragons the Warden killed or God Babies or what have you

[aries1001]

I never thought of this Two Blights at the same time



Seriously, though, I've always considered the DA franchise as - franchise. A universe in which Bioware could tell stories; the stories they've decided to tell. And shape and create the universe themselves.

[JediHealerCosmin]

Lukas Kristjanson wrote...

That would certainly meet the expectations of the exponential gain of gaming--you fight an archdemon in one game, that must mean you need to fight two in the next, then they are downgraded to lieutenants and you fight packs of five and an ultrarchdemonaut in the third. In the fourth you punch a mountain. In SPACE!

Don't give EA anymore crazy ideas 

[marcusgs221]

I really want to see the chantry burn and as for archdeamons all being dragons I might be wrong but I don't remember anything saying they must be a dragon

[Nimpe]

Why another blight and not Kirkwall?

[String910]

Why not another blight ? because no one likes the same story in 2 different games



about Flemeth, all the roads of the story so far finish with the conclusion - There's something strange with Flemeth. so yeah, i think that she is the main villain of the series, the series final boss and i also think that she is a Dragon, cause of the name of the game or a God in Dragon form.