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[filetemo]

The graphic engine in DA2, in my opinion, just barely holds up to the current standards, it has been revamped and tweaked but it shows its age, and I don't think it could handle a new game launching in 2012-2013, by then it would be too outdated.

Is Bioware working on a brand new engine for whatever new fantasy RPG they are planning, or will they stick with this one by terms of profitability and pay off? Will DA3 use Unreal or whatever third party engine is available at the moment?

[adi4444]

i think the graphics of dao was very cool and from what i sew the graphic of da 2 is beutiful



i didnt like the graphic of withcer 2 i think its just a matter of taste...

[Haasth]

I rather doubt it, honestly. They will likely try to make improvements for DA3, but BioWare isn't known for trying to make the prettiest games in terms of sheer graphical quality. After all, one of the great things about an engine that isn't that heavy is that a lot of people can easily play it. 

Personally I didn't mind the graphical style in Origins. What I initially saw from DA2 however seemed to display a worse picture, but new information as of late has changed my mind on that.. mostly. 

Who knows, perhaps they will. But BioWare doesn't exactly have a track record of doing such. 

[Ailith Tycane]

That graphics are fine. If it bothers you that much then go play Crysis or games similar. This game isnt about wanking over it's graphics engine, there are things that are slightly more important. Like gameplay. Go figure.

[StokedUp]

wow! DA2 isnt even out and your already talking about a new graphics engine for DA3.

[filetemo]

Ailith430 wrote...

That graphics are fine. If it bothers you that much then go play Crysis or games similar. This game isnt about wanking over it's graphics engine, there are things that are slightly more important. Like gameplay. Go figure.

Bioware has proved with mass effect that they can make a visually stunning game while keeping the gameplay at very high standards.Thats why the comparison between their  two own franchises makes you wonder why dragon age can't catch up with mass effect. It shows you it can be done.

The problem is that it seems the graphic engine has to be amortized and there's no time to experiment with a new one if you want to launch a new title every year and a half.

[GreenSoda]

It'll have to run on consoles. There is only so much they can do, you know.

[Annette Tom]

I would much rather the graphics suck, because that tells me they spent more time on the gameplay. Games like Crysis may have amazingly realistic graphics, but the gameplay definitely does not match up.

[filetemo]

Annette Tom wrote...

I would much rather the graphics suck, because that tells me they spent more time on the gameplay.

one thing has very few to do with the other, if the choice of the graphic engine is right.

If the art team used the same amount of work they put in DA2, but with a decent engine, the result would be twice as good as in DA2, without using more resources, personel or money.

Besides, hot graphics and great gameplay are achieved in mass effect, and it's a bioware game too.It can be done without sacrificing gameplay development.

[Dune01]

simfamSP wrote...

Look at Crysis what a beautiful game to look at! Well...it's horrible to play but LOOK AT TEH AWSUM GRAFICS!

I can see what you did there 

[Quercus]

Annette Tom wrote...

I would much rather the graphics suck, because that tells me they spent more time on the gameplay. Games like Crysis may have amazingly realistic graphics, but the gameplay definitely does not match up.

Tobad that's not the truth though. They have different people working on different aspects of the game. The guys who are working on graphics may not know a single thing about creating gameplay. Give the graphics guy a new engine and they can do wonders with it, without the game lacking in gameplay.

Nonetheless, I like the graphics of DA2 the way they are, I don't really see the need of a new engine.

[sevalaricgirl]

I think the graphics in DA2 lend credibility to the story. Everything was drab in the middle ages. I find nothing wrong with the graphics in either DAO or DA2.

[filetemo]

mass effect-like graphics is more than enough, and bioware has proved they can achieve them without sacrificing the gameplay. Using Crysis as a worst case scenario is an exaggeration and I don't think it applies to DA2 or RPG's in general.

[LordPaul256]

Mass Effect is a FPS.



FPS require less background computations, so more processing power can go towards graphics. It's also easier to utilize, because there is a more limited range of necessary graphics that need to be "on the ready" in the game.



It's not a fair comparison, and it never has been.

[Riloux]

Lycium Engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioWare

Modifié par Riloux, 20 février 2011 - 01:25 .

[Quercus]

LordPaul256 wrote...

Mass Effect is a FPS.

FPS require less background computations, so more processing power can go towards graphics. It's also easier to utilize, because there is a more limited range of necessary graphics that need to be "on the ready" in the game.

It's not a fair comparison, and it never has been.

ME isn't a FPS, but a TPS.... just saying.

Modifié par Shiroukai, 20 février 2011 - 01:28 .

[Maconbar]

LordPaul256 wrote...

Mass Effect is a FPS.

FPS require less background computations, so more processing power can go towards graphics. It's also easier to utilize, because there is a more limited range of necessary graphics that need to be "on the ready" in the game.

It's not a fair comparison, and it never has been.

It's a TPS.

[LordPaul256]

But, but... when I use the scope, the game turns into a FPS!



In all seriousness, from the point of view of the game engine (being Unreal 3 in this case) the two function nearly the same. But both of you get stars for pointing out a triviality online. These will be redeemable at the end of the term for extra credit.

[biomag]

I really don't like the new graphic (I didn't like the old one either). I am looking forward to see how it feels in game as I mostly ain't that sensitive to graphics generally. Still, DA:O and now DA:2 both feel a lot older than ME 1 and 2.



I hope they finally achieve their goal of creating something special with DA:3, but right now I simply ain't impressed.

[Maconbar]

LordPaul256 wrote...

But, but... when I use the scope, the game turns into a FPS!

In all seriousness, from the point of view of the game engine (being Unreal 3 in this case) the two function nearly the same. But both of you get stars for pointing out a triviality online. These will be redeemable at the end of the term for extra credit.

Does ME2 require fewer background calculations than DA:O or DA:2? That seems to be your claim and that is why I pointed out that ME2 wasn't a FPS.

[PinkShoes]

every game has a different look. TBH some games are just looking generic because they dont have their own style but a style that is just "now graphics"

[FurousJoe]

Ailith430 wrote...

That graphics are fine. If it bothers you that much then go play Crysis or games similar. This game isnt about wanking over it's graphics engine, there are things that are slightly more important. Like gameplay. Go figure.

2 different genres, but your argument really doesn't work considering Crysis also got amazing gameplay so yeah, go figure.

Annette Tom wrote...

I would much rather the graphics suck, because that tells me they spent more time on the gameplay. Games like Crysis may have amazingly realistic graphics, but the gameplay definitely does not match up.

Seriously makes me think someone hasn't even played the game.

If you don't like shooters, well fine, but it's a lot more innovative and feature rich in gameplay department than many other critically acclaimed fps games.

Modifié par FurousJoe, 20 février 2011 - 07:50 .

[iampool]

StokedUp wrote...

wow! DA2 isnt even out and your already talking about a new graphics engine for DA3.

That is cause if they plan on making a new engine for DA3, they should have started already, those things take time.

I hope they will make a new engine, but don't think so, my opinion is; they will try to improve the actual engine all they can.

Anyways this aint DA2 related prob. a mod will move or close.