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[XBenotto18]

Dragon Age Origins had the worst graphics for its time, yet its bioware most sold game to date

[Anathemic]

XBenotto18 wrote...

Dragon Age Origins had the worst graphics for its time, yet its bioware most sold game to date

That was Mass Effect 2.

[XBenotto18]

well when origins released before ME2 it was bioware most sold game. For its time that still matters because the graphics were really bad

http://www.computera...effect-bioware/

Modifié par XBenotto18, 21 février 2011 - 07:00 .

[Anathemic]

XBenotto18 wrote...

well when origins released before ME2 it was bioware most sold game. For its time that still matters because the graphics were really bad

http://www.computera...effect-bioware/

That's fine and dandy. But we are on the verge of DA2 and it's competing with other RPGs already transferring to next-gen.

[TheRevanchist]

Anathemic wrote...
"Bioware graphics suck and should change"[/i] never did I say that, learn to quote properly.

This thread's purpose is to discuss is BioWare needs a graphical change. I'm on the yes side, I support my argument with other games who are confirmed to have done a graphical change.

"there graphics are suckzor which means no one will play their games" and nowhere did I say that either.

If fanboys isn't getting the the message through how about 'ignorant entity' because so far you and plenty of other 'ignorant entities' are not being productive here at all.

Seriously, I'm staying on topic on discussing the graphical change if BioWare needs and about 80% of the posts going against me are repeating the same rhetoric of "lol you be troll" or "stop it, ur argument make no sense, it   repeats, why it repeats, I dunno stop it, STOP IT!"

So how about you stop getting off the ad hominem and either A. attack the context of the argument to make this thread more productive or B. get the hell out of this thread because you ain't adding to it.

my "quotes" is obviously not your exact wording...they are a summary of everything I have read of your posts, because from what I see you aren't adding anything either...you just sit there and scream "fanboy" or "personal attack" as loud as humanly possible. So I fail to see how you can claim to sit upon a high horse and being "on topic" when all your doing is drooling over the graphics of other games rather then state a legitimate reason WHY Bioware should change their graphics engine.

[Anathemic]

kylecouch wrote...

my "quotes" is obviously not your exact wording...they are a summary of everything I have read of your posts, because from what I see you aren't adding anything either...you just sit there and scream "fanboy" or "personal attack" as loud as humanly possible. So I fail to see how you can claim to sit upon a high horse and being "on topic" when all your doing is drooling over the graphics of other games rather then state a legitimate reason WHY Bioware should change their graphics engine.

You're not paying attention are you? Read the thread before you started attacking me, I've been stayin on topic and was actually havign a pleasant discussion until whatever that guys name JJ butted in and then you turning it once again to a frenzy of off-topic.

[Tenken_h]

I think the graphics in DA2 get the job done for this game. I also believe that if BioWare decides to make a Dragon Age 3 there should be a new engine or a heavily modified Lycium Engine to support it.

[Anathemic]

Tenken_h wrote...

I think the graphics in DA2 get the job done for this game. I also believe that if BioWare decides to make a Dragon Age 3 there should be a new engine or a heavily modified Lycium Engine to support it.

Lycium engine is the current engine being used now yes? They could modify it heavily but I doubt BioWare would put that much effort it, might as well start off with a new engine, more bang for your buck.

Modifié par Anathemic, 21 février 2011 - 07:08 .

[XBenotto18]

When DAII comes out people aren't going to care about graphics like you do anathemic because it's still an improvement from origins which still sold a lot of copies in the first place despite its ugliness

edit: Graphics shouldnt be top priority for a good game

Modifié par XBenotto18, 21 février 2011 - 07:10 .

[Anathemic]

XBenotto18 wrote...

When DAII comes out people aren't going to care about graphics like you do anathemic because it's still an improvement from origins which still sold a lot of copies in the first place despite its ugliness

Well that's your speculation, which is fine. I don't care about graphics contrary to popular belief, I pride a game more on content. But as however we don't have good valid sources on said content (except for videos, which I can argue if one turly desires so) we go on graphics.

[Morroian]

Anathemic wrote...

You're not paying attention are you? Read the thread before you started attacking me, I've been stayin on topic 

Calling others fanboy is staying on topic is it?

[TwistedComplex]

My only complaint with DA2



The graphics really are abysmal

[Anathemic]

Morroian wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

You're not paying attention are you? Read the thread before you started attacking me, I've been stayin on topic 

Calling others fanboy is staying on topic is it?

No, but I am forced to resort to insults if people get off-topic, like you are.

Gonna actually add anything to the discussion or jsut going to smirk like an idiot?

[Anathemic]

TwistedComplex wrote...

My only complaint with DA2

The graphics really are abysmal

True, it's been said but I feel a need to bring it up again.



Textures like this coming from AAA devs really is sad.

[XBenotto18]

If DAIII was anounced but they said that they were going to make a new engine, how delayed would the game before release?

Modifié par XBenotto18, 21 février 2011 - 07:18 .

[Anathemic]

XBenotto18 wrote...

If DAIII was anounced but they said that they were going to make a new engine, how delayed would the game be for release?

I doubt it would work that way. Usually new games are released after engine production is finished and game production is well under way as shown with the announcements of Skyrim and Witcher 2.

As for the delay, it will probably take 3-5 years to make a long-lasting engine.

[Tenken_h]

Anathemic wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

My only complaint with DA2

The graphics really are abysmal

True, it's been said but I feel a need to bring it up again.



Textures like this coming from AAA devs really is sad.

Is that the only area that people noticed problems with the graphics? And from what build is that screenshot from?

[DJBare]

TwistedComplex wrote...
My only complaint with DA2
The graphics really are abysmal

I have to agree, but I'm still holding out hope that DX11 will bring redemption, and it was stated that pc users will get extra texture packs.
Having said that, I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy the game regardless, I just like to have my cake and eat it.

[XBenotto18]

Anathemic wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

My only complaint with DA2

The graphics really are abysmal

True, it's been said but I feel a need to bring it up again.



Textures like this coming from AAA devs really is sad.

I dont really care about that since I'll be killing enemies instead of looking around staring at skeletons

[atheelogos]

I say do a spin off and go with a photo realistic open world sandbox. Kinda like Skyrim and the Witcher.



With that said I don't really mind the look of Dragon Age 2. It looks good enough for me. Besides who plays RPGs for graphics anyway?

[Anathemic]

Tenken_h wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

My only complaint with DA2

The graphics really are abysmal

True, it's been said but I feel a need to bring it up again.



Textures like this coming from AAA devs really is sad.

Is that the only area that people noticed problems with the graphics? And from what build is that screenshot from?

Its from a neogaf thread dicussion a DA2 demo/trailer

http://www.neogaf.co...ad.php?t=421471

The video is linked in the OP

Modifié par Anathemic, 21 février 2011 - 07:28 .

[Anathemic]

XBenotto18 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

My only complaint with DA2

The graphics really are abysmal

True, it's been said but I feel a need to bring it up again.



Textures like this coming from AAA devs really is sad.

I dont really care about that since I'll be killing enemies instead of looking around staring at skeletons

Sure, but we are discussing the need of a new engine for DA3. And btw those textures are abyssmal, DA:O had better clutter textures than that.

[Catsith]

XBenotto18 wrote...

If DAIII was anounced but they said that they were going to make a new engine, how delayed would the game before release?

I highly doubt they would be able to make an entirely new next-gen engine and a 40+ hour RPG in anything less than 3 years. They would most probably go with Unreal or something else, as I don't think EA is going to let them sit back and work on a new engine for years... they want to crank out sequels and make a profit very quick.

[Anathemic]

Catsith wrote...

XBenotto18 wrote...

If DAIII was anounced but they said that they were going to make a new engine, how delayed would the game before release?

I highly doubt they would be able to make an entirely new next-gen engine and a 40+ hour RPG in anything less than 3 years. They would most probably go with Unreal or something else, as I don't think EA is going to let them sit back and work on a new engine for years... they want to crank out sequels and make a profit very quick.

Time for BioWare to join Activion/Blizzard/Bungie party?

[XBenotto18]

I think the engine would be fine if it wasn't for the cartoony combat (judging by videos only)