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[iampool]

StokedUp wrote...



wow! DA2 isnt even out and your already talking about a new graphics engine for DA3.

That is cause if they plan on making a new engine for DA3, they should have started already, those things take time.



I hope they will make a new engine, but don't think so, my opinion is; they will try to improve the actual engine all they can.



Anyways this aint DA2 related prob. a mod will move or close.

[The Night Haunter]

Srsly people why do you care so much bout graphics? BG2 had moderate to poor graphics even for its time, but what it DID have was 200 hours of gameplay. If bioware takes the money they woulda used on graphics and puts it towards making the story better and longer ill be ecstatic. If you want good graphics play a shooter, if you want a really good story dont push your luck and ask for graphics too.

[FurousJoe]

Well it depends, if we get another DA game in same time frame as DAO to DA2 I don't think we get another engine. If however they wait till next generation of home consoles launch there'll definatly be a new engine.

When the next generation of home consoles launch is of course speculation, but a couple of years tops I think is not a bad guess.


Also personally I'm completely fine with these graphics, overall they're better than vanilla DAO, but it's still able to be played on a lot of computers, which is extremely important.

Modifié par FurousJoe, 20 février 2011 - 07:54 .

[Blacklash93]

adi4444 wrote...

i think the graphics of dao was very cool and from what i sew the graphic of da 2 is beutiful

i didnt like the graphic of withcer 2 i think its just a matter of taste...

DA2 isn't a very pretty game. It's certainly not "beautiful" by many means. Origins even less so.

And TW2's visuals are so superior it isn't even a matter of opinion. The art style, maybe, but there's no denying that TW2 looks much better overall. Still, who cares?

Modifié par Blacklash93, 20 février 2011 - 07:56 .

[ladydesire]

filetemo wrote...

The graphic engine in DA2, in my opinion, just barely holds up to the current standards, it has been revamped and tweaked but it shows its age, and I don't think it could handle a new game launching in 2012-2013, by then it would be too outdated.

Is Bioware working on a brand new engine for whatever new fantasy RPG they are planning, or will they stick with this one by terms of profitability and pay off? Will DA3 use Unreal or whatever third party engine is available at the moment?

I sure as hell hope not, since they just wrote this one for DAO.

[Morroian]

filetemo wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

That graphics are fine. If it bothers you that much then go play Crysis or games similar. This game isnt about wanking over it's graphics engine, there are things that are slightly more important. Like gameplay. Go figure.

Bioware has proved with mass effect that they can make a visually stunning game while keeping the gameplay at very high standards.Thats why the comparison between their  two own franchises makes you wonder why dragon age can't catch up with mass effect. It shows you it can be done.

ME is a different game. DA's more tactical focus is more resource intensive gameplay, thus it will never be as graphically good as ME.

Modifié par Morroian, 20 février 2011 - 08:00 .

[Nighteye2]

Forget about graphics - get us a decent physics engine for DA3. With animated cloth and no more clipping effects - and objects moving as if they have actual weight.

[FurousJoe]

Inarborat wrote...

Can't stand the "graphics don't matter crowd."  Of course, gameplay is the most important but great graphics, and great sound, add a lot to immersion.  Saying they don't matter is doing a disservice to all the talented artists that work in the gaming industry.  Gaming is a visual medium hence the importance of graphics.  If a company wants to charge a premium price for a game, I expect it to excel in all areas.  In regards to DAII, it's not the prettiest game out there but I did like how it looked on my computer and it ran buttery smooth in DX9 with all the settings cranked up.  It'll run even better with the final, optimized game.

People that say Crysis is only graphics obviously don't enjoy shooters and/or never played the game.

Thank you based god - I was starting to be afraid I was the only sane person here.

[Anathemic]

BioWare needs a new graphics engine.



Open your eyes people, we are entering the next-gen phase of gaming. Soon every standard game will have Witcher 2/Skyrim/Crysis 2 graphics, if BioWare is just going to keep pushing the same engine they will be left behind in the competition.

[FurousJoe]

Anathemic wrote...

BioWare needs a new graphics engine.

Open your eyes people, we are entering the next-gen phase of gaming. Soon every standard game will have Witcher 2/Skyrim/Crysis 2 graphics, if BioWare is just going to keep pushing the same engine they will be left behind in the competition.

It's a doubled edged sword. A lot of consumers on the PC market are left behind on those games you mentioned. Sure they scale, but there's limits to how well the results are.

The Eclipse engine is fine, DA2 does look alright.

[Cipher1989]

Graphic is important yes. But is it everything? No. Final Fantasy XIII had some of the most beautiful graphic for a console game. But that's all it had. Personally I think it's the most boring FF to date.

[wulfsturm]

Anathemic wrote...

BioWare needs a new graphics engine.

Open your eyes people, we are entering the next-gen phase of gaming. Soon every standard game will have Witcher 2/Skyrim/Crysis 2 graphics, if BioWare is just going to keep pushing the same engine they will be left behind in the competition.

You're lumping The Witcher 2 and Skyrim's graphics with Crysis 2?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

[FurousJoe]

wulfsturm wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

BioWare needs a new graphics engine.

Open your eyes people, we are entering the next-gen phase of gaming. Soon every standard game will have Witcher 2/Skyrim/Crysis 2 graphics, if BioWare is just going to keep pushing the same engine they will be left behind in the competition.

You're lumping The Witcher 2 and Skyrim's graphics with Crysis 2?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

I'm not even sure why he mentions Skyrim, all we got are screenshots so far, while I have no doubts the game will be good looking, it's a little premature to praise it already.

[Anathemic]

FurousJoe wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

BioWare needs a new graphics engine.

Open your eyes people, we are entering the next-gen phase of gaming. Soon every standard game will have Witcher 2/Skyrim/Crysis 2 graphics, if BioWare is just going to keep pushing the same engine they will be left behind in the competition.

It's a doubled edged sword. A lot of consumers on the PC market are left behind on those games you mentioned. Sure they scale, but there's limits to how well the results are.

The Eclipse engine is fine, DA2 does look alright.

Compared to the games I've listed? DA2 is barely holding on. Graphics aren't everything I agree, but they are the backbone of game evolution, 'else we would still be playin on Nintendo 64's with 8-bit graphics.

[FurousJoe]

Anathemic wrote...

FurousJoe wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

BioWare needs a new graphics engine.

Open your eyes people, we are entering the next-gen phase of gaming. Soon every standard game will have Witcher 2/Skyrim/Crysis 2 graphics, if BioWare is just going to keep pushing the same engine they will be left behind in the competition.

It's a doubled edged sword. A lot of consumers on the PC market are left behind on those games you mentioned. Sure they scale, but there's limits to how well the results are.

The Eclipse engine is fine, DA2 does look alright.

Compared to the games I've listed? DA2 is barely holding on. Graphics aren't everything I agree, but they are the backbone of game evolution, 'else we would still be playin on Nintendo 64's with 8-bit graphics.

I don't disagree with you, but there needs to be a balance in regards to what hardware your average PC have today.

[Anathemic]

wulfsturm wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

BioWare needs a new graphics engine.

Open your eyes people, we are entering the next-gen phase of gaming. Soon every standard game will have Witcher 2/Skyrim/Crysis 2 graphics, if BioWare is just going to keep pushing the same engine they will be left behind in the competition.

You're lumping The Witcher 2 and Skyrim's graphics with Crysis 2?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Actually yeah I am:





All 3 look about the same level to me

[Anathemic]

FurousJoe wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

FurousJoe wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

BioWare needs a new graphics engine.

Open your eyes people, we are entering the next-gen phase of gaming. Soon every standard game will have Witcher 2/Skyrim/Crysis 2 graphics, if BioWare is just going to keep pushing the same engine they will be left behind in the competition.

It's a doubled edged sword. A lot of consumers on the PC market are left behind on those games you mentioned. Sure they scale, but there's limits to how well the results are.

The Eclipse engine is fine, DA2 does look alright.

Compared to the games I've listed? DA2 is barely holding on. Graphics aren't everything I agree, but they are the backbone of game evolution, 'else we would still be playin on Nintendo 64's with 8-bit graphics.

I don't disagree with you, but there needs to be a balance in regards to what hardware your average PC have today.

Every PC gamer needs to upgrade eventually, personally I'd rather have one big upgrade than plentiful small ones.

[wulfsturm]

Nice, I like how you chose a low-res shot from Crysis 2 on a console and compared it to two hi-res shots of PC games.



You're not biased. At all.

[Anathemic]

wulfsturm wrote...

Nice, I like how you chose a low-res shot from Crysis 2 on a console and compared it to two hi-res shots of PC games.

You're not biased. At all.

Umm I'm putting Crysis 2 on the same level of those 2 PC games, are you paying attention?



Again, all 3 (now 4) screenshots looks to be on the same level in terms of graphics.

Edit: Oh and that Skyrim screenshot, is not high-res, you can see it's a bit low-res in texture quality.

Modifié par Anathemic, 20 février 2011 - 08:46 .

[wulfsturm]

Anathemic wrote...


Umm I'm putting Crysis 2 on the same level of those 2 PC games, are you paying attention?

Nope, all I'm seeing is fanboyism.

The Witcher 2 and Skyrim are not on the same level as Crysis 2, don't even bother to compare. The CryTek 2 engine makes all other engines looks like little babies in comparison.

Modifié par wulfsturm, 20 février 2011 - 08:49 .

[Anathemic]

Inarborat wrote...

Pfft, the sequel to Metro 2033 will probably dwarf Crysis 2 anyways. That Witcher 2 screenshot is really, really old anyways.

Keeping topic relevant, we probably won't see a Dragon Age graphic upgrade until the next generation of consoles. Those nasty consoles, always holding games back.

Well thanks for proving my point.

Next generation of consoles won't be that long, why not build a new engine until then?

[The Elder King]

Inarborat wrote...

Pfft, the sequel to Metro 2033 will probably dwarf Crysis 2 anyways. That Witcher 2 screenshot is really, really old anyways.

Keeping topic relevant, we probably won't see a Dragon Age graphic upgrade until the next generation of consoles. Those nasty consoles, always holding games back.

ME2 has a very good graphics on console, better than DA2 on console.

Modifié par hhh89, 20 février 2011 - 08:53 .