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ashez2ashes

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I remember a post once where Gaider posted about elf blooded humans ie. children from an elven and human parents.  It was an interesting bit of lore we hadn't seen yet.  Does anyone have a link to it?

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wickedgoodreed

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Gaider makes a few posts about it here: http://forums.biowar...&forum=84&sp=15

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ashez2ashes

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Thanks that was one of them. There was one more link where he talks about it. For some reason the idea fascinates me.

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An interesting question is will two elf-blooded humans possibly be able to produce and elven child together?

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Curlain wrote...

An interesting question is will two elf-blooded humans possibly be able to produce and elven child together?


Well based off of what Gaider says, I think the answer is probably no, but their child might have some "elven appearance traits."



Quote: Posted 05/10/07 12:11 (GMT) by Nighteye2

    Right, but what happens when a character has one human
great-grandparent, and 7 elven great-grandparents?     Would he still be
human, or would the elven genes revert back to elven?



Still fully human, though I suspect the chances of gaining some odd (odd
for humans, anyhow) elven appearance traits might be higher in such a
circumstance.


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Woah! Thanks for this... This is something I've mentioned in my FF (well, I had one character mention it, it may just be her opinion) and I've been called up on my departure from the 'completely human' orthodox interpretation.



Now here comes the question, if Alistair's mother is an elf would this possibly have some consequences for him? Obviously his appearance is fully human but would a little part of him, a certain trait say, be attributable to his elven heritage.

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There was another post where Gaider talked about elf blooded humans and the relations to their elven parents. How they usually 'move away' from the elven parents once they reach of age so they're not discriminated against. Does anyone have a link to that?


David Gaider also mentioned some stuff about half -dwarfs which someone else might find interesting...

David Gaider  wrote a long time ago...

There are half-dwarves -- they just don't call them that, and they're pretty rare considering there is no social benefit to either race for intermarriage. Not to mention that dwarves aren't very fertile to begin with. If a mixed dwarf/human marriage resulted in a pregnancy, the first reaction would very likely be suspicion of infidelity.

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ashez2ashes wrote...

There was another post where Gaider talked about elf blooded humans and the relations to their elven parents. How they usually 'move away' from the elven parents once they reach of age so they're not discriminated against. Does anyone have a link to that?


Hmm...he touches on that idea briefly in this post. Not sure if it's the one you mean though...

David Gaider wrote...

Without getting into the "why" behind the elves-and-humans-produce-humans thing (which I've talked about before), I will talk about why we didn't deal with it in the game. Primarily it's because we didn't have room. There's a lot of things that exist in the Thedas world that we weren't able to get into in Origins -- part of it is due to limited resources, but part of it is also because to properly address it we'd need to do it justice. We were already introducing the races and their situations, and adding on the complexity of explaining something that does need explanation would... get us what, exactly? You can't play one of the "elf-blooded" (this is what humans with mixed parentage are generally referred to, though I imagine "half-elf" could also be used in a slanderous fashion), and trying to explain the presence of a small number of humans in the alienage (as a for-instance) would have diluted the story we were already going for. Trying to fit everything that exists into the world in one story, after all, isn't really feasible.

I'd like to get into it. I think it's a possibility that has the potential for good drama, and even allowing the player to be elf-blooded might be cool in the future. But like I said, I'd want to do it justice. If your view on it is that you wanted half-elves to be there, and their omission is a fault -- then so be it. I can't really argue with that except to
say that we don't think they're required. As some people have mentioned, it's not a widespread thing. Many elves resist having human children for cultural reasons, and many elf-blooded children will live amongst humans as full humans simply because they can get away with it and hiding their heritage means not having to suffer for it -- from humans as well as elves. Some few might be public about their identity, and unwilling to leave their parents behind, but like I said that belongs in another story.

Incidentally, for half-dwarves the situation is a bit different. Dwarves aren't a very fertile race to begin with, and far less so when it comes to mating with humans and elves. In fact, it would be considered rare... rare enough that it's considered more of an oddity than a group of its own. The result is also less stigmatized... primarily because it's also less noticeable. You end up with what would appear to be a tall dwarf or a short human. That calls for a new model -- which we weren't going to get, even if we wanted to address such a rare case. Again, it's certainly something we could do in the future, though such a character would still be considered unusual.

I imagine for those who really like their half-elves that's not a very satisfactory answer, but I hope it offers
some light on the why's and wherefore's.


http://social.biowar...575146/2#576558

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Yeah, that's it! Thanks