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Hathur wrote...

I just love the way so many Sheeple put so much stock on review scores... what makes 1 reviewers score about a game more valid than some random fella you ask off the street? There's no degree in video game reviewing... no field of study with a defined parameters how a game is judged & scored....

A review score to me from PC Gamer or Gamespot or IGN or whatever has as much credibility / significance to me as if I had asked a homeless person what he thought about the game... a 9.0 /10 means nothing to me... a 2.0 / 10 means nothing to me... it's meaningless. Scores don't do anything to tell me whether a game is suited to my personal tastes.

You know what DOES help me decide if a game suites my liking? A reviewer with a journalism degree & strong writing skills who can succinctly explain what he liked about the game, what features it has, what problems it has, what he didn't like, provide a technical analysis of game and then his own personal commentary on the game..... THAT is what I base part of my decision on whether I would like a game or not...

But someone saying a game is 9.0/10 out of 10 is utter garbage to me.... Call of Duty games get huge scores... and I hate them, can't stand playing them at all... you'd have to put a gun to my head to ever even try it again for 1 minute. Why? Because it doesn't suit my tastes one bit..... now if I read a well written review about Call of Duty, then I can find out if it's a good game for me or not.... but the score? Useless.

Yer all a bunch of sheeple.... now Imma goin a back to ma cave.


Thank you, another intelligent post in this thread.

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Buffy-Summers wrote...

82 with most people complaining about the removal of RPG elements


ME2 got a higher scores/awards than ME1 ...and it removed even more RPG elements than DOA to DA2.

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87%

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boohead wrote...

Buffy-Summers wrote...

82 with most people complaining about the removal of RPG elements


ME2 got a higher scores/awards than ME1 ...and it removed even more RPG elements than DOA to DA2.



Yes, that was a vast Action Game conspiracy that no longer exists

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Hathur wrote...

I just love the way so many Sheeple put so much stock on review scores... what makes 1 reviewers score about a game more valid than some random fella you ask off the street? There's no degree in video game reviewing... no field of study with a defined parameters how a game is judged & scored....

A review score to me from PC Gamer or Gamespot or IGN or whatever has as much credibility / significance to me as if I had asked a homeless person what he thought about the game... a 9.0 /10 means nothing to me... a 2.0 / 10 means nothing to me... it's meaningless. Scores don't do anything to tell me whether a game is suited to my personal tastes.

You know what DOES help me decide if a game suites my liking? A reviewer with a journalism degree & strong writing skills who can succinctly explain what he liked about the game, what features it has, what problems it has, what he didn't like, provide a technical analysis of game and then his own personal commentary on the game..... THAT is what I base part of my decision on whether I would like a game or not...

But someone saying a game is 9.0/10 out of 10 is utter garbage to me.... Call of Duty games get huge scores... and I hate them, can't stand playing them at all... you'd have to put a gun to my head to ever even try it again for 1 minute. Why? Because it doesn't suit my tastes one bit..... now if I read a well written review about Call of Duty, then I can find out if it's a good game for me or not.... but the score? Useless.

Yer all a bunch of sheeple.... now Imma goin a back to ma cave.


Thank you sir...this sums up my opinion on this topic to the tee....btw...I liked Oblivion...I thought it was fantastic and have commited probably over a years worth of accumulated play time. a real world year not an in game year...which is still very long btw. I can understand some people not likeing it...but just because you don't like it don't mean other people can't. You know what else I like? Risen...thats right...Risen...sure the combat is totaly crap and makes the game fourty times harder than it needs to be...and the graphics are bad by original Xbox standards...but I like it. Thats why I feel DA2's graphics are perfectly fine...besides they just built the damn engine that it uses I doubt their replaceing it. Besides I think DA2 looks sexy as hell...not as sexy as Skyrim of course but still... 

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Buffy-Summers wrote...

boohead wrote...

Buffy-Summers wrote...

82 with most people complaining about the removal of RPG elements


ME2 got a higher scores/awards than ME1 ...and it removed even more RPG elements than DOA to DA2.



Yes, that was a vast Action Game conspiracy that no longer exists


Umm.. are you trying to make fun of your own position here? The "Vast _____ Conspiracy" line is typically deployed only for cheap laughs.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Buffy-Summers wrote...

boohead wrote...

Buffy-Summers wrote...

82 with most people complaining about the removal of RPG elements


ME2 got a higher scores/awards than ME1 ...and it removed even more RPG elements than DOA to DA2.



Yes, that was a vast Action Game conspiracy that no longer exists


Umm.. are you trying to make fun of your own position here? The "Vast _____ Conspiracy" line is typically deployed only for cheap laughs.


This is confusing

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Hathur wrote...

I just love the way so many Sheeple put so much stock on review scores... what makes 1 reviewers score about a game more valid than some random fella you ask off the street? There's no degree in video game reviewing... no field of study with a defined parameters how a game is judged & scored....

A review score to me from PC Gamer or Gamespot or IGN or whatever has as much credibility / significance to me as if I had asked a homeless person what he thought about the game... a 9.0 /10 means nothing to me... a 2.0 / 10 means nothing to me... it's meaningless. Scores don't do anything to tell me whether a game is suited to my personal tastes.

You know what DOES help me decide if a game suites my liking? A reviewer with a journalism degree & strong writing skills who can succinctly explain what he liked about the game, what features it has, what problems it has, what he didn't like, provide a technical analysis of game and then his own personal commentary on the game..... THAT is what I base part of my decision on whether I would like a game or not...

But someone saying a game is 9.0/10 out of 10 is utter garbage to me.... Call of Duty games get huge scores... and I hate them, can't stand playing them at all... you'd have to put a gun to my head to ever even try it again for 1 minute. Why? Because it doesn't suit my tastes one bit..... now if I read a well written review about Call of Duty, then I can find out if it's a good game for me or not.... but the score? Useless.

Yer all a bunch of sheeple.... now Imma goin a back to ma cave.


Okay, I have to make a comment on this.

While I think you are right to say that it's the real, substantive content of a thoughtful and intelligent review that really matters, and not the number that's attached to it, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that aggregate review scores mean nothing.

What, exactly, do those numbers reflect?  They are nothing more nor less than an attempt on the reviewer's part to quantify their impression of the game's overall quality, taking numerous different factors into account.  Of course, different reviewers have different opinions and standards, and surely some are more professional than others, but, as you said, there is no clear set of defined parameters that govern what makes a "good" or "professional" review.

A decent critic isn't going to just pull a number out of a hat and slap it up at the top of a game review.  A decent critic will spend some time reflecting on what he or she personally enjoyed about a game, how the game compares to other (and especially similar) games, what faults the game possesses, how the game fares in terms of relatively objective criteria (most criteria pertaining to a game's quality are not wholly objective, but most of us will tend to broadly agree when a game's controls are too poor, or the acting is too bad, or the bugs are too major, etc.)... only after thoughtfully considering all these things and more will a decent, conscientious game critic assign a numeric score to a game.

Obviously, a high Metacritic average isn't going to tell us much about any game, except that most critics like it or consider it to be good.  If you want to know specifics, read some reviews from sources you consider relevant or credible.  That's the difference between words and numbers-- the former can explain, and analyze, and qualify, and interpret, both on specifics and in general, in theory or using examples; numbers express quantitative values and relationships.  They don't tell us the same things words can, but that doesn't mean they're useless.

As I said, in a professional, thoughtfully composed review, the number score should at least come close to representing the reviewer's opinions on a game as a quantitative value on a clearly defined scale.  Of course that number won't tell us specifics about how the game plays, or what particular faults it has-- those things should be covered in the text of the review.  But I don't think it's smart to completely discount a huge mass of aggregate data taken from dozens of reviews from different sources just because numbers and averages are for "sheeple."  At the very least, it can give us a general impression of how highly critics are judging a game, and in much less time than it would take to read fifty plus reviews.

For my part, I like to use Metacritic as a starting point to get a feel for the reviews of games I'm interested in but not completely sold on yet.  I usually start by picking out one of the highest scores, one of the lowest scores, and one somewhere in the middle, and then reading those three reviews.  I find this useful.  If you don't, that's fine, but there's nothing wrong with looking at scores to get a very general sense of how a game is doing critically.

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I agree with Noilly Prat, it isn't wrong if someone looks up a review. It can be helpful. They do explain the game in good detail. And if looking for peoples coments about video games that have jounalism degrees, probably dont even know jack **** about video games anyways

Modifié par XBenotto18, 21 février 2011 - 06:53 .


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Anathemic wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Buffy-Summers wrote...

boohead wrote...

Buffy-Summers wrote...

82 with most people complaining about the removal of RPG elements


ME2 got a higher scores/awards than ME1 ...and it removed even more RPG elements than DOA to DA2.


Yes, that was a vast Action Game conspiracy that no longer exists


Umm.. are you trying to make fun of your own position here? The "Vast _____ Conspiracy" line is typically deployed only for cheap laughs.


This is confusing


Really?

I'll unpack it, then. The "vast ____ conspiracy line" derives from a fairly infamous remark by Hillary Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky scandal about how there was a vast right-wing conspiracy to destroy her husband. Now, while there actually was a vast right-wing conspiracy to destroy Bill Clinton, he was also pretty much guilty as charged, so the conspiracy idea was discredited.

These days, when someone talks about a  "vast ____ conspiracy" it's usually to make fun of the idea that such a conspiracy actually exists.

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I would say 88-90

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80's, possibly low 90's, i don't care i don't pay attention. GTA4 is one of the highest rated games on meta critic, and that's BS, while my favorite games are in the 80's and even 70's. So i don't pay attention.

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BioWare is the only company I don't look at metacritic's score or reviews before buying their games. They earned it.

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ralph2190 wrote...

<_< Just a suggestion OP, use '?' and not '!' in the thread title.



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Anathemic wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

(Morrowind was the  b)est hiking simulator ever. As an RPG, though.....

On topic: my bet is 89%



Mass Effect was the best trucker simulator ever


Hmm... that joke just went right past me. I know it won't be funny anymore, but what's the similarity?



Awwww, you don't remember the fun times we all had driving the MAKO? B)

''THE WITCHER 2, THE WITCHER 2, THE WITCHER 2''
Why don't you jog on over to their forums then and leave us Dragon Age fans alone, or is it because hardly any people are on the Witcher 2's boards because it is a tiny development team and relatively unknown. DA2 OWNZ The Witcher 2. Just wait for the sale numbers baby ;-).
Do not reply to me, I am done with you.
Be gone.

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oh snap

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83%

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99, and just like ME2 only 10 people on the planet will play it through more than twice.

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Merced652 wrote...

99, and just like ME2 only 10 people on the planet will play it through more than twice.


Exaggeration much. Though you flatter me, counting my person as 10% of the worlds gaming elite if you say so Posted Image

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gamespot will give most 84 imo.

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Hathur wrote...

I just love the way so many Sheeple put so much stock on review scores... what makes 1 reviewers score about a game more valid than some random fella you ask off the street? There's no degree in video game reviewing... no field of study with a defined parameters how a game is judged & scored....

A review score to me from PC Gamer or Gamespot or IGN or whatever has as much credibility / significance to me as if I had asked a homeless person what he thought about the game... a 9.0 /10 means nothing to me... a 2.0 / 10 means nothing to me... it's meaningless. Scores don't do anything to tell me whether a game is suited to my personal tastes.

You know what DOES help me decide if a game suites my liking? A reviewer with a journalism degree & strong writing skills who can succinctly explain what he liked about the game, what features it has, what problems it has, what he didn't like, provide a technical analysis of game and then his own personal commentary on the game..... THAT is what I base part of my decision on whether I would like a game or not...

But someone saying a game is 9.0/10 out of 10 is utter garbage to me.... Call of Duty games get huge scores... and I hate them, can't stand playing them at all... you'd have to put a gun to my head to ever even try it again for 1 minute. Why? Because it doesn't suit my tastes one bit..... now if I read a well written review about Call of Duty, then I can find out if it's a good game for me or not.... but the score? Useless.

Yer all a bunch of sheeple.... now Imma goin a back to ma cave.


I find your post a bit arrogant presumptuous tbh.

I tell you why. Reviewing games is a job like any other, actually maybe even better than most. Also these magazines run a business and they don't just throw out random BS because that would ultimately lead to their ruin. So I guess they don't employ the random homeless from the street to review games.

You are right that it is just the opinion of one reviewer though, and the rating as such doesn't tell you which content exactly the reviewer disliked. It might be, after all, that you don't see the same things as a problem. Anyway, the points/ratings give an average impression as you can take it as such if you know what is behind it.

I don't know, I don't feel like reading every review out there. So I read 3 or 4 of the magazines I trust most, and then compare their rating to others etc. which gives me an overview over the whole. As I said, maybe not the most accurate way but better than to have to read every single review out there.

Also the rating magazines give can also be used to rate reviewers and not only games. If I see a bad rating from a reviewer and it is my personal best-ever-game I know that these people obviously haven't found someone who can appreciate the same things that I do.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 21 février 2011 - 11:54 .


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75... But for me will be 90.

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mrsph wrote...
0%
It will be the worst game ever and cause the collapse of Bioware.


psssst... We're talking Dragon Age II here. The SW:tOR forums are that way.