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[Bloggers99]

We Tigers wrote...

You guys are going to have aneurysms and strokes like whoa before this is over. Bioware's not going to do much of anything for this until DA2 is out, reviewed, and mostly bought up by early adopters. They won't take the wind out of one franchise for another. I also think it's a major stretch to expect some actual major sacrifice regarding Shepard, the team, Earth, whatever, as Bioware is not going to put something that will hugely influence the direction of ME3 into content that a lot of people won't buy.

In short: don't forget to breathe.

Because Lair of the Shadow Broker will, in no way, influence ME3. <_<
We're going to be big guddamn heroes and this DLC will make it happen.

[Fiery Phoenix]

We Tigers wrote...

I also think it's a major stretch to expect some actual major sacrifice regarding Shepard, the team, Earth, whatever, as Bioware is not going to put something that will hugely influence the direction of ME3 into content that a lot of people won't buy.

This is the only part of your post I disagree with. Recall that this is bridging content, a canonical part of the overarching plot. That is to say, it is content that happens anyway, regardless of whether you've seen or completed it - exactly like the books and comics. Do you have to read them? No, but they happen and have happened in your game. Also, Liara becoming the Shadow Broker happens in an optional DLC, and that's anything but something that won't be crucial to ME3.

Other than that, I agree with you. We should just lean back until DA2 is out of the way. BioWare isn't going to say anything before then.

[Pwener2313]

BW isn't going to announce Arrival until DA2 is out and old news? DA sucks balls deep! I want ME NOW!!!!!

[We Tigers]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

I also think it's a major stretch to expect some actual major sacrifice regarding Shepard, the team, Earth, whatever, as Bioware is not going to put something that will hugely influence the direction of ME3 into content that a lot of people won't buy.

This is the only part of your post I disagree with. Recall that this is bridging content, a canonical part of the overarching plot. That is to say, it is content that happens anyway, regardless of whether you've seen or completed it - exactly like the books and comics. Do you have to read them? No, but they happen and have happened in your game. Also, Liara becoming the Shadow Broker happens in an optional DLC, and that's anything but something that won't be crucial to ME3.

Other than that, I agree with you. We should just lean back until DA2 is out of the way. BioWare isn't going to say anything before then.

Clarification: I mean it's not going to be a choice.  No "you have to sacrifice some of your team members" or "you have to choose if x gets destroyed" that affects the next game.  The worrying about "will I have to give up x or y" isn't necessary.  I guess if you're a spoiler fiend, knowing what happens next has some merit before you play it?  That said, I'm not even sure if whatever happens will be that major, as nothing in the books or comics have been significant to the ME game experience so far.

On another note, I actually wouldn't be surprised if Liara as Shadow Broker gets a few lines of content and nothing else in ME3. "Feron is back on his feet and he's running things now, I will come help you in your exciting adventures!  Please grab my butt again!"  Can go either way, with Liara as SB or not, but Bioware certainly has left themselves an out if they want her to be a full squadmate.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Liara's role will probably be central to ME3; I can see it happening. In any event, I do agree that it's not going to be a "choice", for obvious reasons.

[JaegerBane]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

I also think it's a major stretch to expect some actual major sacrifice regarding Shepard, the team, Earth, whatever, as Bioware is not going to put something that will hugely influence the direction of ME3 into content that a lot of people won't buy.

This is the only part of your post I disagree with. Recall that this is bridging content, a canonical part of the overarching plot. That is to say, it is content that happens anyway, regardless of whether you've seen or completed it - exactly like the books and comics. Do you have to read them? No, but they happen and have happened in your game. Also, Liara becoming the Shadow Broker happens in an optional DLC, and that's anything but something that won't be crucial to ME3.

Other than that, I agree with you. We should just lean back until DA2 is out of the way. BioWare isn't going to say anything before then.

I agree. Ultimately it's up to anyone whether they purchase DLC or not, but I'd hate to think they're having to warp the storyline just to make sure all those who refused to get it might have less of a story. I mean, that's kind of expected if they are going to ignore parts of it.

Given the situation at the conclusion of LotSB, I can't really imagine how they'd be able to deal with any material regarding Liara or the Shadow Broker without incorporating the events of LotSB in ME3. Which implies that the only way to do it without involving the DLC is to remove all references to the events in  ME3, which patently doesn't make any sense.

[Thompson family]

JaegerBane wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

We Tigers wrote...

I also think it's a major stretch to expect some actual major sacrifice regarding Shepard, the team, Earth, whatever, as Bioware is not going to put something that will hugely influence the direction of ME3 into content that a lot of people won't buy.

This is the only part of your post I disagree with. Recall that this is bridging content, a canonical part of the overarching plot. That is to say, it is content that happens anyway, regardless of whether you've seen or completed it - exactly like the books and comics. Do you have to read them? No, but they happen and have happened in your game. Also, Liara becoming the Shadow Broker happens in an optional DLC, and that's anything but something that won't be crucial to ME3.

Other than that, I agree with you. We should just lean back until DA2 is out of the way. BioWare isn't going to say anything before then.

I agree. Ultimately it's up to anyone whether they purchase DLC or not, but I'd hate to think they're having to warp the storyline just to make sure all those who refused to get it might have less of a story. I mean, that's kind of expected if they are going to ignore parts of it.

Given the situation at the conclusion of LotSB, I can't really imagine how they'd be able to deal with any material regarding Liara or the Shadow Broker without incorporating the events of LotSB in ME3. Which implies that the only way to do it without involving the DLC is to remove all references to the events in  ME3, which patently doesn't make any sense.

Agreed. You don't even have to buy ME1 to play ME2, so moving on without a particular DLC should be no problem.

[riley3664]

i just saw this article here: http://www.gamefocus.ca/news/13173 that shows a teaser ad for the arrival on the box. its what we expected. it says the arrival has begun and something about an invasion commencing. time to fight some reapers!

[Janus198]

Maybe the leaflet has nothing to do with his DLC.
On the german variant is the Mass Effect 3 logo top left.
Look: www.globalgameport.com/attachment.php 

[Ty2011]

Janus198 wrote...

Maybe the leaflet has nothing to do with his DLC.
On the german variant is the Mass Effect 3 logo top left.
Look: www.globalgameport.com/attachment.php 

Interesting...

[morrie23]

Indeed, interesting, surely they'll update the ME website next week with some info.

[braynken]

what I think the ultimate sacrifice "achievement" may be is that Sheppard and his team go to the relay to save that doctor and while on it Shepperd's team fall into a Reaper trap so in order to save his team Sheppard stays behind in order that his team might escape the Reaper trap.

[Robuthad]

Nothing bad is going to happen to Shepard in a DLC. He wont be dying or "sacrificing" himself in any way

[Robuthad]

Modifié par Robuthad, 06 mars 2011 - 11:39 .

[DIrishB]

We Tigers wrote...

You guys are going to have aneurysms and strokes like whoa before this is over. Bioware's not going to do much of anything for this until DA2 is out, reviewed, and mostly bought up by early adopters. They won't take the wind out of one franchise for another.

I agree to a point, but at the same time, don't forget that Witch Hunt and Lair of the Shadow Broker were both released the same day, and both were MAJOR DLC additions, wrapping up hanging plot lines from both games.  I do think the earliest we'll see news about Arrival is probably mid April, and see it released probably early May, right around the time we'll likely see the second DA2 DLC released.

I also think it's a major stretch to expect some actual major sacrifice regarding Shepard, the team, Earth, whatever, as Bioware is not going to put something that will hugely influence the direction of ME3 into content that a lot of people won't buy.

Have to disagree here, again using Witch Hunt and Lair of the Shadow Broker as proof.  LotSB wrapped up left over plot lines concerning Liara from ME2, and helped set up Liara's place as the new SB for ME3.  While not a universe-changing event on the surface, it is nontheless a pretty major plot-point of the series.

Witch Hunt did much the same for Morrigan's story.  It also blatantly predicts the coming conflict and change in the DA world that the story of DA2 will chronicle.

It could be argued these aren't HUGE changes to the playing field of either franchise, but they're significant enough to act at least in part as a counterpoint to your argument.

[Squadrito]

Ah yes, "Arrival." The mysteriously evasive DLC for Mass Effect 2 allegedly waiting in BioWare's dark headquarters. We have... dismissed that claim?

[maxut85]

Robuthad wrote...

Nothing bad is going to happen to Shepard in a DLC. He wont be dying or "sacrificing" himself in any way

how do you know ? 

[Jesse Houston]

Squadrito wrote...

Ah yes, "Arrival." The mysteriously evasive DLC for Mass Effect 2 allegedly waiting in BioWare's dark headquarters. We have... dismissed that claim?

My office is actually quite bright!  I have a window that looks out onto a dreary snowbank though. 

[Silentmode]

Jesse Houston wrote...

Squadrito wrote...

Ah yes, "Arrival." The mysteriously evasive DLC for Mass Effect 2 allegedly waiting in BioWare's dark headquarters. We have... dismissed that claim?

My office is actually quite bright!  I have a window that looks out onto a dreary snowbank though. 

CONFIRMATION THAT THE BIOWARE OFFICES ARE BRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

[AdmiralCheez]

Dammit, Jesse, I saw that you'd posted and thought it was something official! If you weren't important, I'd slap you.

But thanks for dropping by and letting us know you guys are still alive. Not every gaming company bothers to say hello to the fans every now and then. It's quite flattering.

[Icinix]

I think that large potato pie I ate for smoko has 'arrived' if you know what I mean...

Have to go make a 'sacrifice' on the altar if you know what I mean...

[Cossack72]

Silentmode wrote...

Jesse Houston wrote...

Squadrito wrote...

Ah yes, "Arrival." The mysteriously evasive DLC for Mass Effect 2 allegedly waiting in BioWare's dark headquarters. We have... dismissed that claim?

My office is actually quite bright!  I have a window that looks out onto a dreary snowbank though. 

CONFIRMATION THAT THE BIOWARE OFFICES ARE BRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

His office is bright.

The one where the DLCs are made however...

Modifié par Cossack72, 07 mars 2011 - 05:59 .

[I-AM-KROGAN]

Anyone think that the "Sacrifice" is leaving a squadmate behind to die? Thats what i think.

[Dexi]

Jesse Houston wrote...

Squadrito wrote...

Ah yes, "Arrival." The mysteriously evasive DLC for Mass Effect 2 allegedly waiting in BioWare's dark headquarters. We have... dismissed that claim?

My office is actually quite bright!  I have a window that looks out onto a dreary snowbank though. 

So... um... about that DLC?...

[Silver]

Dexi wrote...

Jesse Houston wrote...

Squadrito wrote...

Ah yes, "Arrival." The mysteriously evasive DLC for Mass Effect 2 allegedly waiting in BioWare's dark headquarters. We have... dismissed that claim?

My office is actually quite bright!  I have a window that looks out onto a dreary snowbank though. 

So... um... about that DLC?...

I wouldn't count on an answer. I guess they like to torture us too much and will continue to do so for any number of days