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[HyperLimited]

There's at least one person out there who canceled their pre-order because of floating weapons... 

[gastovski]

yeah looks very bad...

[TheSleazebag]

People liking games by companies other than Bioware? Blasphemy, thou must be a troll of the highest caliber good sire

[Darkeus]

bluecapsule6 wrote...

 Don't worry, TW2 looks just as bad.

Yep, and it that screen shot were to his side some more, you would see where the weapins are slightly off of Geralt's back.

And they seem not to be able to fix the clipping with the swords on the left hip.

[Anathemic]

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

Totally, I'm sure it's impossible for BioWare to move the actual weapon models a bit closer to the back, amirite?

Atleast TW2 had a proper physics engine and creates the illusion (yes illusion) of proper physics where in DA series we have, floating arrows, no bowstrings, 5 inches off back floating weapons.

[GODzilla]

DrunkenMonkey wrote...

...plus return of the rather mis-modelled chests. I mean her breasts are either that enormous so that she actually needed all that space to "stuff" it in as good as possible...or the modeller had a bad monday.

As always, modders will take care of it.

[Amioran]

Anathemic wrote...

I'm pretty sure the work done for Geralt is also done for various NPCs throughout the game to (such as the main subordinate characters or the antagonists).

It's different, completely. Re-read my previous posts, thanks. An NPC has fixed weapon models or when they switch they are taken in consideration by the devs. If you don't know of what you talk about please don't do it.

Anathemic wrote...
But I agree, DA2 engine is not the same as the RED engine but this still doesn't rule out the possbilty for the devs to upgrade the engine to actually add some realism in proper weapon holding plus actual bowstrings in the game (bow strings, come on).

It's not an issue with the engine. It's a pain to do properly for a party. It's doable but the gain vs. work is imbalanced. As for bowstrings, again, you have no idea on how difficult it is to implement it properly. No game that I know have ever done bowstrings well. In all cases there are always glitches or clipping issues.

[bluecapsule6]

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

You are 100% right. If you can't make it absolutely flawless, might as well not try at all and just have weapons float half a feet away from your character and bows without strings. 

[Elvoria]

Slidell505 wrote...

Elvoria wrote...

Slidell505 wrote...

DrunkenMonkey wrote...

why are they even on her back?

So they don't have do an animation that reacts to having a sword on your hip realisticly.

having 2 swords on your hips is not realistic, think about it.

unlike pistols in the old west you can't just simply grab and pull out of sheath if you did you would be holding them wrong, but reaching up and pulling out they will come down in a position to fight.

Your left arm grabs the right weapon your right arm grabs the left weapon. Both ways you'd come out ready to fight. It's quite simple.

yes the problem is you have to cross your body with both arms and pull the daggers out at the same time , thats really not realistic

only 1 sword should be on waist for a person that uses a shield in off hand.

Modifié par Elvoria, 21 février 2011 - 08:20 .

[tez19]

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

BLASHPEMY!!! That has left a bitter taste in Anathemic's mouth, more so than when he/she lick CD Projekt dev's bumholey's.

[Darkeus]

TheSleazebag wrote...

People liking games by companies other than Bioware? Blasphemy, thou must be a troll of the highest caliber good sire

It isn't the liking of other games, it is the coming on this forum and exclaiming how great one game is over the other.  Idiotic it is.  I will own both games but I love pointing out the fallacy of their claims.

Just enjoy whatever game you want or buy them both like me.  Don't come spouting nonsense (Not directed towards you.)

[Amioran]

Anathemic wrote...

Totally, I'm sure it's impossible for BioWare to move the actual weapon models a bit closer to the back, amirite?

Yes, it's as easy as that. You should tell that to devs, how idiot they are.

Anathemic wrote...
Atleast TW2 had a proper physics engine and creates the illusion (yes illusion) of proper physics where in DA series we have, floating arrows, no bowstrings, 5 inches off back floating weapons.

TW2 HAS NOT A PARTY OF CHARACTERS. It's completely different, do you get it? You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Really people, at last have a minimal grasp on the issues at hand before pretending you know how easy/difficult it is to do a thing and what it takes to do the thing you propose.

[Anathemic]

Amioran wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

I'm pretty sure the work done for Geralt is also done for various NPCs throughout the game to (such as the main subordinate characters or the antagonists).

It's different, completely. Re-read my previous posts, thanks. An NPC has fixed weapon models or when they switch they are taken in consideration by the devs. If you don't know of what you talk about please don't do it.

Anathemic wrote...
But I agree, DA2 engine is not the same as the RED engine but this still doesn't rule out the possbilty for the devs to upgrade the engine to actually add some realism in proper weapon holding plus actual bowstrings in the game (bow strings, come on).

It's not an issue with the engine. It's a pain to do properly for a party. It's doable but the gain vs. work is imbalanced. As for bowstrings, again, you have no idea on how difficult it is to implement it properly. No game that I know have ever done bowstrings well. In all cases there are always glitches or clipping issues.

Even so, just leaving it out completely? That's not even trying, atleast make an attempt to it instead of leaving the air of apathy when coming to proper physics in the game world.

Edit: And I know TW2 and other games dont have a party of characters, reply to the posts I'm directing at you please.

Modifié par Anathemic, 21 février 2011 - 08:24 .

[bluecapsule6]

Darkeus wrote...

TheSleazebag wrote...

People liking games by companies other than Bioware? Blasphemy, thou must be a troll of the highest caliber good sire

It isn't the liking of other games, it is the coming on this forum and exclaiming how great one game is over the other.  Idiotic it is.  I will own both games but I love pointing out the fallacy of their claims.

Just enjoy whatever game you want or buy them both like me.  Don't come spouting nonsense (Not directed towards you.)

Nobody came in here exclaiming how great TW2 is over DA2. People merely pointed out that TW2 has more normal looking weapons/scabbard, which is objectively true. 

And the weapons do float a bit in TW2, but it doesn't look as awkward because there's a strap. 

Modifié par bluecapsule6, 21 février 2011 - 08:25 .

[Darkeus]

tez19 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

BLASHPEMY!!! That has left a bitter taste in Anathemic's mouth, more so than when he/she lick CD Projekt dev's bumholey's.

Lol,  thing is I am a fan of both games!  I just don't understand how it benefits anyone to rip on another game in lieu of their preferred favorite.  I could care less and will own both.  I know this may be shocking to some but yes, you can enjoy both franchises!

[Amioran]

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...
As always, modders will take care of it.

No they won't. There's no mod that takes care of it for DAO, simply because it is a very difficult thing to do. For a mod almost impossible.

OMG.

[Anathemic]

tez19 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

BLASHPEMY!!! That has left a bitter taste in Anathemic's mouth, more so than when he/she lick CD Projekt dev's bumholey's.

How is that BioWare/fanbase relationship comin' along?

Modifié par Anathemic, 21 février 2011 - 08:25 .

[Hathur]

I don't understand why they can't put bowstrings on the bows in the game when numerous other RPGs that have released in the past 5-6 years have been able to make models of bows with a bowstring. They don't need to behave realistically, but jeez would it kill 'em to even make a lazy 2d sprite for the bowstring? They weren't shy about using a tons of 2d sprites to give the illusion of crowds in ME2 on Illium (people on balconie, different levels etc)... you'd think a 2d spite of a brown squiggly line would be easy enough. Sigh. 

Modifié par Hathur, 21 février 2011 - 08:28 .

[Anathemic]

bluecapsule6 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

TheSleazebag wrote...

People liking games by companies other than Bioware? Blasphemy, thou must be a troll of the highest caliber good sire

It isn't the liking of other games, it is the coming on this forum and exclaiming how great one game is over the other.  Idiotic it is.  I will own both games but I love pointing out the fallacy of their claims.

Just enjoy whatever game you want or buy them both like me.  Don't come spouting nonsense (Not directed towards you.)

Nobody came in here exclaiming how great TW2 is over DA2. People merely pointed out that TW2 has more normal looking weapons/scabbard, which is objectively true. 

And the weapons do float a bit in TW2, but it doesn't look as awkward because there's a strap. 

Thank you, nowhere in this thread was I praising TW2 over DA, in fact I wasn't the person to even bring it up in the first place. I'm merely adding my own input.

[Darkeus]

bluecapsule6 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

TheSleazebag wrote...

People liking games by companies other than Bioware? Blasphemy, thou must be a troll of the highest caliber good sire

It isn't the liking of other games, it is the coming on this forum and exclaiming how great one game is over the other.  Idiotic it is.  I will own both games but I love pointing out the fallacy of their claims.

Just enjoy whatever game you want or buy them both like me.  Don't come spouting nonsense (Not directed towards you.)

Nobody came in here excaliming how great TW2 is over DA2. People merely pointed out that TW2 had more normal looking weapons/scabbard, which is objectively true. 

And the weapons do float a bit in TW2, but it doesn't look as awkward because there's a strap. 

Guy, have you been on the forums in the past couple days?!?  People have been coming on here trolling about the Witcher 2 for god knows how long.  

So if I seem to be tired of the comparisons, I totally am.  I will own both games, could care less about floating weapons or clipping or any of that crap.  Just people stop with the stupid comparisons.  They are not even the same type of game!  One is a party based RPG and the other is a single PC action RPG.  

[Browneye_Vamp84]

i like to just tell myself that the strings are very VERY thin

[DrunkenMonkey]

Hathur wrote...

I don't understand why they can't put bowstrings on the bows in the game when numerous other RPGs that have released in the past 5-6 years have been able to make models of bows with a bowstring. They don't need to behave realistically, but jeez would it kill 'em to even make a lazy 2d sprite for the bowstring? Sigh.

i think morrowind had them. that was around 7 years ago

[Amioran]

Anathemic wrote...

Even so, just leaving it out completely? That's not even trying, atleast make an attempt to it instead of leaving the air of apathy when coming to proper physics in the game world.

Even trying (as you put it) takes much work for a thing you know in anticipation it will not work properly. If you do a thing and then it doesn't work nice people will complain (isn't just what you did for the floating weapons?) because they don't care at all about the difficulty of a thing vs. the gains you have.

Having bowstrings requires a lot of work for something that will neither work nor it is even remotely noticeable when you play a game as DA. What would be the pourpose of doing it?

Anathemic wrote...
Edit: And I know TW2 and other games dont have a party of characters, reply to the posts I'm directing at you please.

Then why you insist comparing the two as if they have the same issues?

Modifié par Amioran, 21 février 2011 - 08:29 .

[Anathemic]

Darkeus wrote...

bluecapsule6 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

TheSleazebag wrote...

People liking games by companies other than Bioware? Blasphemy, thou must be a troll of the highest caliber good sire

It isn't the liking of other games, it is the coming on this forum and exclaiming how great one game is over the other.  Idiotic it is.  I will own both games but I love pointing out the fallacy of their claims.

Just enjoy whatever game you want or buy them both like me.  Don't come spouting nonsense (Not directed towards you.)

Nobody came in here excaliming how great TW2 is over DA2. People merely pointed out that TW2 had more normal looking weapons/scabbard, which is objectively true. 

And the weapons do float a bit in TW2, but it doesn't look as awkward because there's a strap. 

Guy, have you been on the forums in the past couple days?!?  People have been coming on here trolling about the Witcher 2 for god knows how long.  

So if I seem to be tired of the comparisons, I totally am.  I will own both games, could care less about floating weapons or clipping or any of that crap.  Just people stop with the stupid comparisons.  They are not even the same type of game!  One is a party based RPG and the other is a single PC action RPG.  

You are participating in a thread discussing floating weapons. As this is a criticism for DA2, OF COURSE THERE IS GOING TO BE COMPARISONS, YOU'RE ON A DMAN FORUM.

How 'bout instead of attacking games (your the only one here doing so) you add to the discussion on why DA2 can't or can add proper physics to the game.

[XBenotto18]

DrunkenMonkey wrote...



oh dear will they ever fix this?? theres other game that have


Now  with missing bow strings!!!!


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EDIT: off topic Lady Hawke does apper to have a lovely pair it wasnt an illision after all

eewww.....no strings on bows?