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[PhrosniteAgainROFL]

Anathemic wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

Totally, I'm sure it's impossible for BioWare to move the actual weapon models a bit closer to the back, amirite?

What did I say about armor sizes? Of course they can move the weapon models a bit closer to the back and it will be alright with the none bulky armor but what happens when you equip bulky armor?

[Anathemic]

Amioran wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Even so, just leaving it out completely? That's not even trying, atleast make an attempt to it instead of leaving the air of apathy when coming to proper physics in the game world.

Even trying (as you put it) takes much work for a thing you know in anticipation it will not work properly. If you do a thing and then it doesn't work nice people will complain (isn't just what you did for the floating weapons?) because they don't care at all about the difficulty of a thing vs. the gains you have.

Having bowstrings requires a lot of work for something that will neither work nor it is even remotely noticeable when you play a game as DA. What would be the pourpose of doing it?

Anathemic wrote...
Edit: And I know TW2 and other games dont have a party of characters, reply to the posts I'm directing at you please.

That have fixed weapons models with fixed shape models. Thx for the partecipation.

The purpose of doing it would be that BioWare is making an attempt to implement a proper physics engine instead of leaving the air of apathy of ignoring it completely.

As for not noticing said lack of bowtrings (and other things) that's completely subjective.

[Tenken_h]

I have no problem with floating weapons.



Off-topic: Awful lot of name dropping going on these days.

[PrinceOfFallout13]

all this talk about the witcher made me realize how skyrim will destroy the witcher 2

[tez19]

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

BLASHPEMY!!! That has left a bitter taste in Anathemic's mouth, more so than when he/she lick CD Projekt dev's bumholey's.

How is that BioWare/fanbase relationship comin' along?

Hey sexy, I am not the one on the witcher 2 forums saying how ''DA2 will outsell the **** out of your game, DA2 is better than the witcher 2'' which is ALL you have done since coming on these forums, how about you GTFO and go to discuss your orgasm giving witcher 2 game over at their official forums?? Goodbye and good riddance.

Modifié par tez19, 21 février 2011 - 08:33 .

[Anathemic]

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

Totally, I'm sure it's impossible for BioWare to move the actual weapon models a bit closer to the back, amirite?

What did I say about armor sizes? Of course they can move the weapon models a bit closer to the back and it will be alright with the none bulky armor but what happens when you equip bulky armor?

With an upgrade/tweak to the engine I'm sure that weapons can be adjusted to whatever type of armor you have (at the very least tehre a 3 armor models to take into account, light, medium, and heavy).

[Amioran]

DrunkenMonkey wrote...

i think morrowind had them. that was around 7 years ago

The work for a first person mechanic is justificable since you notice it much much more and it can be a groundbreaking issue.
 
For how DA is made it's all another thing. You don't notice bowstrings if you don't look for them. I'm sure if you make someone play DA without telling them there are no bowstrings they will neither notice until you don't say so.

For a game as Morrowind, instead, everybody will notice a thing as that immediately.

[bluecapsule6]

DrunkenMonkey wrote...

Hathur wrote...

I don't understand why they can't put bowstrings on the bows in the game when numerous other RPGs that have released in the past 5-6 years have been able to make models of bows with a bowstring. They don't need to behave realistically, but jeez would it kill 'em to even make a lazy 2d sprite for the bowstring? Sigh.

i think morrowind had them. that was around 7 years ago

You're right. 

[XBenotto18]

Tenken_h wrote...

I have no problem with floating weapons.

Off-topic: Awful lot of name dropping going on these days.

No problem with floating weapons? I'm not one that is to keen on realism on video games, but floating weapons?

[Anathemic]

tez19 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

BLASHPEMY!!! That has left a bitter taste in Anathemic's mouth, more so than when he/she lick CD Projekt dev's bumholey's.

How is that BioWare/fanbase relationship comin' along?

Hey sexy, I am not the one on the witcher 2 forums saying how ''DA2 will outsell the **** out of your game, DA2 is better than the witcher 2'' which is ALL you have done since coming on these forums, how about you GTFO and go to discuss your process orgasm giving witcher 2 game over at their official forums?? Goodbye and good riddance.

I never said TW2 will outsell DA2. How about you add to the discussion instead of attacking me, as it is your zealous crusade.

[DrunkenMonkey]

morrowind....
ive got to re install that game sometime

Modifié par DrunkenMonkey, 21 février 2011 - 08:33 .

[Darkeus]

Anathemic wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

bluecapsule6 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

TheSleazebag wrote...

People liking games by companies other than Bioware? Blasphemy, thou must be a troll of the highest caliber good sire

It isn't the liking of other games, it is the coming on this forum and exclaiming how great one game is over the other.  Idiotic it is.  I will own both games but I love pointing out the fallacy of their claims.

Just enjoy whatever game you want or buy them both like me.  Don't come spouting nonsense (Not directed towards you.)

Nobody came in here excaliming how great TW2 is over DA2. People merely pointed out that TW2 had more normal looking weapons/scabbard, which is objectively true. 

And the weapons do float a bit in TW2, but it doesn't look as awkward because there's a strap. 

Guy, have you been on the forums in the past couple days?!?  People have been coming on here trolling about the Witcher 2 for god knows how long.  

So if I seem to be tired of the comparisons, I totally am.  I will own both games, could care less about floating weapons or clipping or any of that crap.  Just people stop with the stupid comparisons.  They are not even the same type of game!  One is a party based RPG and the other is a single PC action RPG.  

You are participating in a thread discussing floating weapons. As this is a criticism for DA2, OF COURSE THERE IS GOING TO BE COMPARISONS, YOU'RE ON A DMAN FORUM.

How 'bout instead of attacking games (your the only one here doing so) you add to the discussion on why DA2 can't or can add proper physics to the game.

Attacking games?  That is what you are doing.

As for me, I have constantly said I am buying both games and do not care at ALL!  Reading is fundamental girl, try it once.

And no, there is no reason to compare, you are on the DA2 forums, not the Witcher 2 forums.  Take that crap there.


And again, it doesn't compare well in the end.  Sorry.   I just compare them since all the Witcher 2 fanboys and girls insist on doing so!

I am getting both games I DON'T CARE!!!  I will enjoy them both while you people continue to compare.  Already pre-ordered!  Wow.... daft...

[Jayce]

Screw the floating/clipping! I just want to see weapons in a Bioware game that don't look like Bioware's art depart all attended the Larry Elmore School of Schlock Fantasy Weapons and Armor. I'm sick and tired of swords that resemble baseball bats and road-killed beavers or warhammers that look like anvils on a stick and bows that look like they've been pried of a moose's head.

[Amioran]

Anathemic wrote...

The purpose of doing it would be that BioWare is making an attempt to implement a proper physics engine instead of leaving the air of apathy of ignoring it completely.

What part of work vs. gains you don't understand?

Anathemic wrote...
As for not noticing said lack of bowtrings (and other things) that's completely subjective.

No, it's not. To notice it you must look for it or look at screenshots in a game as DA.

[Blacklash93]

It's not that big of a deal.



Can it be annoying? Yes. Is it lazy-looking on the Bioware's part? Yes. Should it be adressed for DA3? Yes.



But will you be paying attention to it much of the time? No.

[tez19]

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.

BLASHPEMY!!! That has left a bitter taste in Anathemic's mouth, more so than when he/she lick CD Projekt dev's bumholey's.

How is that BioWare/fanbase relationship comin' along?

Hey sexy, I am not the one on the witcher 2 forums saying how ''DA2 will outsell the **** out of your game, DA2 is better than the witcher 2'' which is ALL you have done since coming on these forums, how about you GTFO and go to discuss your process orgasm giving witcher 2 game over at their official forums?? Goodbye and good riddance.

I never said TW2 will outsell DA2. How about you add to the discussion instead of attacking me, as it is your zealous crusade.

I know you haven't i was saying DA2 will outsell your precious witcher 2. My point was i have seen you in MULTIPLE threads now just slating DA2 and how the witcher 2 will give you orgasms and be so much better than DA2. So GTFO and go over to their forums, i doubt you are welcome here by many people.

[Warrek]

That arrow in the screen shot must be a "arrow of ogre slaying +3 " , that thing is huge !



About the bows , when you think of it , it's kinda funny that the Creative Assembly can model thousands of samurai archers with bow strings .

[bluecapsule6]

Darkeus wrote...

Attacking games?  That is what you are doing.

As for me, I have constantly said I am buying both games and do not care at ALL!  Reading is fundamental girl, try it once.

And no, there is no reason to compare, you are on the DA2 forums, not the Witcher 2 forums.  Take that crap there.


And again, it doesn't compare well in the end.  Sorry.   I just compare them since all the Witcher 2 fanboys and girls insist on doing so!

I am getting both games I DON'T CARE!!!  I will enjoy them both while you people continue to compare.  Already pre-ordered!  Wow.... daft...

You seem awfully upset about something that you don't care about. As has been posted, other people do care, and the point of posting is to let Bioware know that we would like bowstrings in DA3. 

[DrunkenMonkey]

Modifié par DrunkenMonkey, 21 février 2011 - 08:37 .

[Hathur]

Regarding the pic of the sword being so far off Marian Hawke's back... jeez, you'd think they could create a basic programming IF statement to compensate for that and move it closer... I mean I get why it's happening (they have it floating off so far incase the character equips larger / thicker armor.. prevents sword from being absorbed into the armor)....

But something as simple as:

IF character equip studded_leather THEN back_weapon position = 5
IF character equip plate_mail THEN back_weapon position = 9

Etc.... man I made a crappy (broken & pointless too, heh) game in some lame programming classes I took years ago that basically did this... basically the game checked to see what armor the character had on, then positioned the weapon on the avatar's back based on that basic IF statement check..... instead, Bioware uses a global placement regardless of what armor you're wearing, be it light armor (which would require moving the blade closer to the body since it's thin) or massive armor (thereby requiring moving it further away from body to compensate for the armor's thicker dimensions).

Modifié par Hathur, 21 février 2011 - 08:37 .

[Anathemic]

Darkeus wrote...

Attacking games?  That is what you are doing.

As for me, I have constantly said I am buying both games and do not care at ALL!  Reading is fundamental girl, try it once.

And no, there is no reason to compare, you are on the DA2 forums, not the Witcher 2 forums.  Take that crap there.


And again, it doesn't compare well in the end.  Sorry.   I just compare them since all the Witcher 2 fanboys and girls insist on doing so!

I am getting both games I DON'T CARE!!!  I will enjoy them both while you people continue to compare.  Already pre-ordered!  Wow.... daft...

Okay, get me a quote from this thread where I attacked DA2 saying that 'it is the worst game ever and this other game will pwn it so hard' or somethin' to that degree.

Can't find it? It's beacuse I haven't. I'm participating in a genuine discussion but it's trolls like you that desire to stray away just because theres a 'TW2 fan on our DA2 forumz'

And I don't really care if you're going to buy both games, good for you? I never said anything about buying both games at same time now did I?

[Noviere]

I rarely notice the floating weapons when I play DAO... Or I notice it, but my brain ignores it. Suspension of disbelief, or something.

I do think the TW2 has it easier, as others have pointed out. All of Geralt's armor seems to be fairly light-weight(though I may be wrong -- I didn't do extensive research), with a similar mass. In DA, you have characters wearing everything from robes, to massive plate, and everything in between. This makes it harder to come up with a one-size-fits-all solution. Geralt also seems to only use swords(again, I may be wrong -- it just seems to be what he has in every screenshot). In DA, there are daggers, hammers, greatswords, axes, etc... which adds an additional layer of complexity.

I don't say this to take away from CD Projeckt's hard work in making TW2 look amazing Clearly they went above and beyond in implementing these things. But there are factors that may invalidate a direct comparison.

As to the bows? Yeah... I think Bioware does it to mock us. And they do look terrible in that screenshot.

[Darkeus]

bluecapsule6 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Attacking games?  That is what you are doing.

As for me, I have constantly said I am buying both games and do not care at ALL!  Reading is fundamental girl, try it once.

And no, there is no reason to compare, you are on the DA2 forums, not the Witcher 2 forums.  Take that crap there.


And again, it doesn't compare well in the end.  Sorry.   I just compare them since all the Witcher 2 fanboys and girls insist on doing so!

I am getting both games I DON'T CARE!!!  I will enjoy them both while you people continue to compare.  Already pre-ordered!  Wow.... daft...

You seem awfully upset about something that you don't care about. As has been posted, other people do care, and the point of posting is to let Bioware know that we would like bowstrings in DA3. 

Actually just every tired of the fanboys and girls coming on here proclaiming teh Witcher 2 as the God-child or something.  Get a grip.  And two, no I am tired of that particular poster.  

[Tenken_h]

XBenotto18 wrote...

Tenken_h wrote...

I have no problem with floating weapons.

Off-topic: Awful lot of name dropping going on these days.

No problem with floating weapons? I'm not one that is to keen on realism on video games, but floating weapons?

Well, I don't ever really look at my characters from the side, so I probably would never have noticed it. The bow string thing does bother me a bit.

[Phnx]

I guess it all works with magnetism. Armor has magnetic fields in which weapons are held. Bows have some kind of "magnetic-field-bow-string". DA2 Sci-Fi.