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I know you haven't i was saying DA2 will outsell your precious witcher 2. My point was i have seen you in MULTIPLE threads now just slating DA2 and how the witcher 2 will give you orgasms and be so much better than DA2. So GTFO and go over to their forums, i doubt you are welcome here by many people.


Get me a worded quote from me that states that TW2 will give me orgasms and is so much better than DA2, go on.

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Stop turning threads into "Witcher 2 hate/love" threads... :pinched:

Modifié par HyperLimited, 21 février 2011 - 08:41 .


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Attacking games?  That is what you are doing.

As for me, I have constantly said I am buying both games and do not care at ALL!  Reading is fundamental girl, try it once.

And no, there is no reason to compare, you are on the DA2 forums, not the Witcher 2 forums.  Take that crap there.


And again, it doesn't compare well in the end.  Sorry.   I just compare them since all the Witcher 2 fanboys and girls insist on doing so!

I am getting both games I DON'T CARE!!!  I will enjoy them both while you people continue to compare.  Already pre-ordered!  Wow.... daft...



You seem awfully upset about something that you don't care about. As has been posted, other people do care, and the point of posting is to let Bioware know that we would like bowstrings in DA3. 




Actually just every tired of the fanboys and girls coming on here proclaiming teh Witcher 2 as the God-child or something.  Get a grip.  And two, no I am tired of that particular poster.  



I am aware you are getting both games, I have no problem witht he witcher 2. However i do have a problem with idiots like anathemic who are obvious trolls that just come on here to bait the DA2 fans. I hate her. And i realise you do not seem to keen on her either lol.

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Darkeus wrote...

bluecapsule6 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Attacking games?  That is what you are doing.

As for me, I have constantly said I am buying both games and do not care at ALL!  Reading is fundamental girl, try it once.

And no, there is no reason to compare, you are on the DA2 forums, not the Witcher 2 forums.  Take that crap there.


And again, it doesn't compare well in the end.  Sorry.   I just compare them since all the Witcher 2 fanboys and girls insist on doing so!

I am getting both games I DON'T CARE!!!  I will enjoy them both while you people continue to compare.  Already pre-ordered!  Wow.... daft...



You seem awfully upset about something that you don't care about. As has been posted, other people do care, and the point of posting is to let Bioware know that we would like bowstrings in DA3. 




Actually just every tired of the fanboys and girls coming on here proclaiming teh Witcher 2 as the God-child or something.  Get a grip.  And two, no I am tired of that particular poster.  





You seem to be the only one that's not acting objectively in this thread. I didn't see any posts in this thread describing that kind of behaviour, except for when you claimed that TW2 floating weapons were just as bad as DA2. 

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I'm assuming they keep the weapons that far back to prevent clipping, I'd imagine. Games where the weapons are very close to the person always have clipping issues. Its more of a pick your poison. Clipping or floating.

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Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.


Actually it was the Bioware marks that asked the question "what games don't have floating weapons?"  When I said "The Witcher 2" you all are the ones who started the anti-witcher argument by throwing out utterly baseless claims. 

Also you must have been watching an old gameplay video because the last couple have had no noticable clipping issues.  As for the floating weapons, you must be watching some video that I haven't because I haven't seen anything of the sort.

Modifié par Dudalizer, 21 février 2011 - 08:43 .


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I rarely notice the floating weapons when I play DAO... Or I notice it, but my brain ignores it. Suspension of disbelief, or something.

I do think the TW2 has it easier, as others have pointed out. All of Geralt's armor seems to be fairly light-weight(though I may be wrong -- I didn't do extensive research), with a similar mass. In DA, you have characters wearing everything from robes, to massive plate, and everything in between. This makes it harder to come up with a one-size-fits-all solution. Geralt also seems to only use swords(again, I may be wrong -- it just seems to be what he has in every screenshot). In DA, there are daggers, hammers, greatswords, axes, etc... which adds an additional layer of complexity.

I don't say this to take away from CD Projeckt's hard work in making TW2 look amazing Clearly they went above and beyond in implementing these things. But there are factors that may invalidate a direct comparison.

As to the bows? Yeah... I think Bioware does it to mock us. And they do look terrible in that screenshot.


This is true, the only heavy armor in TW2 is guard armor and they are already assumed to be preset with same, well everything, with maybe some slight variations.

However, I still disbelieve the fact that BioWare devs can't implement a semi-proper physics engine into the game. A old old game like Morrowind actually has basic proper bowstring and hold, even for a 1st person game.

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Stop turning threads into "Witcher 2 hate/love" threads... :pinched:


its a shame this always happens :crying:

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Anathemic wrote...

tez19 wrote...

I know you haven't i was saying DA2 will outsell your precious witcher 2. My point was i have seen you in MULTIPLE threads now just slating DA2 and how the witcher 2 will give you orgasms and be so much better than DA2. So GTFO and go over to their forums, i doubt you are welcome here by many people.


Get me a worded quote from me that states that TW2 will give me orgasms and is so much better than DA2, go on.

I was generalizing after reading many posts by you, you are an obvious troll trying to bait DA2 fans, I personally couldn't care how many orgasms you have over the witcher 2 or its screenshots. Go over to their forums because all you want to do is talk about that game so go do it and leave us DA fans alone. Troll.

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Anathemic wrote...

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Attacking games?  That is what you are doing.

As for me, I have constantly said I am buying both games and do not care at ALL!  Reading is fundamental girl, try it once.

And no, there is no reason to compare, you are on the DA2 forums, not the Witcher 2 forums.  Take that crap there.


And again, it doesn't compare well in the end.  Sorry.   I just compare them since all the Witcher 2 fanboys and girls insist on doing so!

I am getting both games I DON'T CARE!!!  I will enjoy them both while you people continue to compare.  Already pre-ordered!  Wow.... daft...


Okay, get me a quote from this thread where I attacked DA2 saying that 'it is the worst game ever and this other game will pwn it so hard' or somethin' to that degree.

Can't find it? It's beacuse I haven't. I'm participating in a genuine discussion but it's trolls like you that desire to stray away just because theres a 'TW2 fan on our DA2 forumz'

And I don't really care if you're going to buy both games, good for you? I never said anything about buying both games at same time now did I?


Geeze, first thing you said was something about the Witcher 2.  Were you asked anything about the WItcher 2?  Was this thread about the Witcher 2?  Nope, but yet.

No it won't, how about you do your research?

CD Projekt Red in
addition with their own new engine has taken account into every weapon
model, including scabbards for each sword. Hell, they even took care of
loose hair animations so it won't be one of the classic
'super-gel-hairdo' every game does.


Here you are saying something about the Witcher 2.  Were you asked?  Nah.  Heck, wasn't even posting to you.  In fact, I was just saying that the WItcher is not perfect and it had clipping problems as well.

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DrunkenMonkey wrote...

HyperLimited wrote...

inb4lock

Stop turning threads into "Witcher 2 hate/love" threads... :pinched:


its a shame this always happens :crying:


I think it's because when people see 'Anathemic' they think "TW2 fan ZOMFG KILL ITZ!"

I find it funny how I did nothing of the sort of praising TW2 over DA2 or even trolled on DA2 in this thread and they all keep saying I did. Talk about hardcore ignorance.

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Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.


Actually it was the Bioware marks that asked the question "what games don't have floating weapons?"  When I said "The Witcher 2" you all are the ones who started the anti-witcher argument by throwing out utterly baseless claims. 

Also you must have been watching an old gameplay video because the last couple have had no noticable clipping issues.  As for the floating weapons, you must be watching some video that I haven't because I haven't seen anything of the sort.


Nah, it was an internal gamplay video.  And not just one video either..  Not to mention, the screen shots in this very thread have clipping in them.

Again, I am tired of the Witcher 2 comparisons.  It is childish!

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Darkeus wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Attacking games?  That is what you are doing.

As for me, I have constantly said I am buying both games and do not care at ALL!  Reading is fundamental girl, try it once.

And no, there is no reason to compare, you are on the DA2 forums, not the Witcher 2 forums.  Take that crap there.


And again, it doesn't compare well in the end.  Sorry.   I just compare them since all the Witcher 2 fanboys and girls insist on doing so!

I am getting both games I DON'T CARE!!!  I will enjoy them both while you people continue to compare.  Already pre-ordered!  Wow.... daft...


Okay, get me a quote from this thread where I attacked DA2 saying that 'it is the worst game ever and this other game will pwn it so hard' or somethin' to that degree.

Can't find it? It's beacuse I haven't. I'm participating in a genuine discussion but it's trolls like you that desire to stray away just because theres a 'TW2 fan on our DA2 forumz'

And I don't really care if you're going to buy both games, good for you? I never said anything about buying both games at same time now did I?


Geeze, first thing you said was something about the Witcher 2.  Were you asked anything about the WItcher 2?  Was this thread about the Witcher 2?  Nope, but yet.

No it won't, how about you do your research?

CD Projekt Red in
addition with their own new engine has taken account into every weapon
model, including scabbards for each sword. Hell, they even took care of
loose hair animations so it won't be one of the classic
'super-gel-hairdo' every game does.


Here you are saying something about the Witcher 2.  Were you asked?  Nah.  Heck, wasn't even posting to you.  In fact, I was just saying that the WItcher is not perfect and it had clipping problems as well.



Hey buddy, it's called a forum, I'm adding my own input. And besides I didn't even bring TW2 in this thread up at all, I merely added to it. Now your blaming me for no starting but adding to a discussion. Ignorance.

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I personally don't see the big deal as far as 'floating weapons' and 'string-less bows' go.
It may be a tad annoying, initially, but I doubt one would be noticing that through most of the game (unless one were obsessive compulsive or anally retentive, I guess...).

re: Creative Assembly (I guess Shogun 2: TW?)
Did the bows have strings? I don't remember. I do recall the gameplay vids showing the soldiers w/ katana on their hips without scabbards.
Not a big deal, tho'. I'd be more interested in how I can get some Prussian Line Infantry and Grenadiers to fight samurai. :crying:

re: The Witcher 2
It sure does look pretty (That said: Morrigan > Triss! Maybe I'll reconsider if they manage to introduce Yennefer in the upcoming game, or later...).
It's a good thing it won't be out 'til later this summer...which means more time to focus on DA2. :D
(which I think looks fine, so far. It may not be great, but a.) it doesn't really have to as long as the characters & story are great and b.) it looks better, for the most part, than DA:O... )

:lol:

Modifié par gotthammer, 21 février 2011 - 08:48 .


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I can deal with the lack of bowstrings, though visible bowstrings would have been great. Floating weapons are, however, another story. I first noticed it in DA:O when I had installed a bunch of mods for the first time (and happily gotten them to work in perfect harmony). I thought, at first, that one of the mods must have messed up the game, and days of experimentation followed. When I finally realised that that was actually the way it looked by default, I had spent so much time obsessing about it that I couldn't be bothered with finishing my playthrough. I did later on, of course, but the floating weapons still bother me. A LOT.



And this from a person that can safely be categorized as a Bioware fangirl. I'll always buy their games and love them, of course, but my hatred for the floating weapons burns with the strength of a thousand suns.

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Why does everyone attack Anathemic on every thread?, sure everyone has different opinions but shes not that bad of a forum member is she?

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You didn't add anything! What are you adding? Nothing.



You just found another place to name drop a game. Wrong forum... Who cares what CDProject Red did? Was it even in a subject or relevant to the discussion, nope.



But you did succeed in derailing the thread. Congrats!

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Darkeus wrote...

In fact, I was just saying that the WItcher is not perfect and it had clipping problems as well.

It's not perfect and I'm sure it will have its fair share of issues. But it's definitely well above Dragon Age II in this department. Acknowledge that and move on instead of acting as if someone just insulted your mother. If BioWare were to actually grant us sheaths and bowstrings ( unfathomable, I know ) would that be such a bad thing?

Defending BioWare at every turn really isn't productive. Especially not when the criticism is valid. I mean, even Fable had bowstrings.

Modifié par Marionetten, 21 février 2011 - 08:49 .


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actually has basic proper bowstring and hold




No... Just, no. It had a bowstring, it pulled back and it was ugly as hell.



Oblivion did it much better, but even that was hard to watch if you shoot bows yourself. Mount and blade does bow's well, though.




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Darkeus wrote...

You didn't add anything! What are you adding? Nothing.

You just found another place to name drop a game. Wrong forum... Who cares what CDProject Red did? Was it even in a subject or relevant to the discussion, nope.

But you did succeed in derailing the thread. Congrats!



You're not adding anything in this thread either, besides your constant attacks on the TW2 fan. 

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Why does everyone attack Anathemic on every thread?, sure everyone has different opinions but shes not that bad of a forum member is she?


It probably has to do with teh constant "The Witcher 2 is better" tone she keeps and post on these forums.  Last I checked, not on the Witcher 2 forums.

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Anathemic wrote...

DrunkenMonkey wrote...

HyperLimited wrote...

inb4lock

Stop turning threads into "Witcher 2 hate/love" threads... :pinched:


its a shame this always happens :crying:


I think it's because when people see 'Anathemic' they think "TW2 fan ZOMFG KILL ITZ!"

I find it funny how I did nothing of the sort of praising TW2 over DA2 or even trolled on DA2 in this thread and they all keep saying I did. Talk about hardcore ignorance.

so you admit you have trolled in other threads? I have seen you do so.
Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf??? That is what you are going through now, everyone assumes you are trolling as you have done it before. So you can go away now.

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Anathemic wrote...


I think it's because when people see 'Anathemic' they think "TW2 fan ZOMFG KILL ITZ!"

I find it funny how I did nothing of the sort of praising TW2 over DA2 or even trolled on DA2 in this thread and they all keep saying I did. Talk about hardcore ignorance.



I always get the popcorn out when you show up in a thread. It's always fun to see the Anathemic vs. everyone back and forth.

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Dudalizer wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Yeah, sorry Witcher 2 fanboys and girls. Just checked out some Gameplay videos of your "perfect" game and sorry. Geralt's sword clips many times with his back and left hip. Also, it actually floats a little too. Not as much as the DA2 screenshots but it is floating a tiny bit off the back.

Seems like your perfect game has floating weapons too.

Now stop with teh silly comparisons and go to your own forum if you want to talk about your game.


Actually it was the Bioware marks that asked the question "what games don't have floating weapons?"  When I said "The Witcher 2" you all are the ones who started the anti-witcher argument by throwing out utterly baseless claims. 

Also you must have been watching an old gameplay video because the last couple have had no noticable clipping issues.  As for the floating weapons, you must be watching some video that I haven't because I haven't seen anything of the sort.


Don't ever put The Witcher 2 in the same sentece as Dragon Age 2, EVER! Seriously, doesn't matter your intention, a comparison between these two games will always start a gamewar.

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bluecapsule6 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

You didn't add anything! What are you adding? Nothing.

You just found another place to name drop a game. Wrong forum... Who cares what CDProject Red did? Was it even in a subject or relevant to the discussion, nope.

But you did succeed in derailing the thread. Congrats!



You're not adding anything in this thread either, besides your constant attacks on the TW2 fan. 


Hey, like I said, tired of all the WItcher 2 fanboys and girls coming on this forum and talking ****, period.  

Liek I have said before, take that to your own forum, not here.