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[Savber100]

*yawn*
Another Witcher vs. Dragon Age thread?
True gamers don't compare games. Children might compare the two games since they feel insecure if a single game is not dominant but smart gamers don't generalize on an entire game based on a few hours of play or on several screenshots. Instead, one takes both games and praise the merits of both. (Witcher had an excellent atmosphere and a fun 'hack-n-slash' gameplay. DA:O had excellent voice-acting, great writing, and character development). Then, one points out the flaws of both and makes sure the opinion is not solely based on personal tastes. (I felt the Witcher lacked good pacing, some of the voice acting was pretty bad, and way too many fetch quests. DA:O's gameplay felt slow, the graphics were 'meh', and the story was cliched) Finally, conclude that both games still need improvement and eagerly await how the sequels will turn out WITHOUT jumping into conclusion before playing it.

See? Not that hard.

Modifié par Savber100, 21 février 2011 - 09:51 .

[PhrosniteAgainROFL]

DarthCaine wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Actually I'm enjoying the war between DA2 and TW2. When May comes I predict many fans to be disappointed..

Funny, I predict when March comes many fans will be disappointed (except the fanboys which will defend BioWare to the death). And I predict when May comes nobody will be disappointed

No, but I have met many Witcher apologists... I find it funny the lengths they go to defend the game when the game has many bugs, scripting problems, hilarious reuse of character models, bad dialog, badly designed in-game engine cut-scenes, shallow combat system, endless number of fetch quests, way too easy even on HARD difficulty, etc. etc.

Do you know why I started a second witcher playthrough? Just to see what happens if you haven't learned the "arrow deflecting" skill and you fight the Professor. Do you know what happens? NOTHING! Geralt deflects the arrow despite he shouldn't be able to. Why didn't they gave him that skill by default? Why put it in the skill tree? Why make such a big deal of the whole arrowing deflecting thing in the beginning and then assuming that everybody will learn that skill?
When I reached that fight and when I saw what happened. I exited the game and deleted it from Steam(local data).

Modifié par PhrosniteAgainROFL, 21 février 2011 - 09:52 .

[KenKenpachi]

Black-Xero wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Actually I'm enjoying the war between DA2 and TW2. When May comes I predict many fans to be disappointed..

Funny, I predict when March comes many fans will be disappointed (except the fanboys which will defend BioWare to the death). And I predict when May comes nobody will be disappointed

You can never please everyyone.I have yet to see a perfect game and I doubt TW2 will change that.

Yeah I predict alot of this crap would stop if the Banhammer got swung around a few times. I think I'll go troll the Witcher Forum actully, see if its staff has the same tolerance of Bio's. Cause Honestly Bioware you guys are saints with all the crap that goes on here.

[Rockworm503]

I'll be happy to have the game be as good as DAO.

[Phoenixblight]

Alex109222 wrote...

TheLastAwakening wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

As a console gamer graphics are NOT the most important thing for me, sure graphics can only help to enhance the game, but that is all. Controls, gameplay, and most importantly fun are all far more important that graphics at least in my opinion.

^this, precisely.

However, I wonder what would happen if the witcher went to consoles... I mean Crysis did... I think this thread would be funnier...*reloads page lf more DA2 Vs TW2*

I would think most PC players will be pissed. 

Sorry but the developers of Witcher 2 have said they have built the game with console in mind so its only a matter of time. 

[Estel78]

Alex109222 wrote...

it still looks worse of than than DA:O, what was wrong with the old ogres? And hawkes head looks way too big. Why fix what aint broken?

Personally, i prefer the new style over the rather bland DAO. Characters look and especially move better.

[DarthCaine]

hhh89 wrote...

I don't think that if someone will prefer DA2 over DAO is necessary a fanboy.

Sure, there'll be people that prefer it, but probably only if they really disliked DAO's combat and the unvoiced protagonist.

[MAD WHITE HAM]

DarthCaine wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I don't think that if someone will prefer DA2 over DAO is necessary a fanboy.

Sure, there'll be people that prefer it, but probably only if they really disliked DAO's combat and the unvoiced protagonist.

dont step in troll droppings

[XBenotto18]

DarthCaine wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

I don't think that if someone will prefer DA2 over DAO is necessary a fanboy.

Sure, there'll be people that prefer it, but probably only if they really disliked DAO's combat and the unvoiced protagonist.

well combat wasnt the best but I dont really give a crap about voiced/unvoiced protagonist

[Anathemic]

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

PhrosniteAgainROFL wrote...

Actually I'm enjoying the war between DA2 and TW2. When May comes I predict many fans to be disappointed..

Funny, I predict when March comes many fans will be disappointed (except the fanboys which will defend BioWare to the death). And I predict when May comes nobody will be disappointed

No, I have meet many Witcher apologists... I find it funny the lengths they go to defend the game when the game has many bugs, scripting problems, hilarious reuse of character models, bad dialog, badly designed in-game engine cut-scenes, shallow combat system, endless number of fetch quests, way too easy even on HARD difficulty, etc. etc.

Did you know why I started a second witcher playthrough? Just to see what happens if you haven't learned the "arrow deflecting" skill and you fight the Professor. Do you know what happens? NOTHING! Geralt deflects the arrow despite he shouldn't be able to. Why didn't they gave him that skill by default? Why put it in the skill tree? Why make such a big deal of the whole arrowing deflecting thing in the beginning and then assuming that everybody will learn that skill?
When I reached that fight and when I saw what happened. I exited the game and deleted it from Steam(local data).

Because arguing gameplay and looks is a totally legitimate argument considering Witcher used BioWare's own dinosaur Aurora Engine (Neverwinter Nights duh).

For somebody who played the Witcher, you obviously don't know why it's successful, and your a BioWare fan for crying out loud. You know what is is? The literature elements of story, plot, and character. That's what made Witcher successful, that's why fans love it. And coming from a BioWare fan who doesn't get it (BioWare does pride itself on story right?), that's just plain pathetic.

[FieryDove]

n2nw wrote...

Um, no, someone's whose been here for years and has never played (or seen) the Witcher.  And likes hot men.

But thank you for the eloquent way in which you pointed out who it was and reminded me why I only like to lurk around here.  Anyway, he's still hot.

Don't listen to him/her/whatever.

They have lousy taste unlike you.

[SnakeHelah]

Guys. Stop crying about the graphics. I have played the demo and they are in some aspect more polished and in a different kind of art direction. They are a BIT better than origins but definitelly not worse. Stop making a ****ing fuss about basing on screenshots.

[cactusberry]

DragonWarrior517 wrote...

No one can deny Awakening and the other DLC were big disappointments...my point is that there is no excuse for failing to produce quality products, even if it is just an expansion. They do that too often, and people will stop buying their product. I'd hate to see that happen.

I can deny, as I did not expience any of Awakening's popular glitches I enjoyed it. Then again, I recieved it for free with the Ultimate Edition along with the other DLC, so I am in no place to judge from your position.

[DarthCaine]

n2nw wrote...

XBenotto18 wrote...

n2nw wrote...

Alex109222 wrote...

 meanwhile

*pic snip*

Oh my......I wish *he* was Fenris.

What a F*CKING troll, go to the witcher forums

Um, no, someone's whose been here for years and has never played (or seen) the Witcher.  And likes hot men.

But thank you for the eloquent way in which you pointed out who it was and reminded me why I only like to lurk around here.  Anyway, he's still hot.

Erm, dunno if this will dissapoint you or not, but that's an early build, this is Geralt's final face

Modifié par DarthCaine, 21 février 2011 - 09:56 .

[Alex109222]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Alex109222 wrote...

TheLastAwakening wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

As a console gamer graphics are NOT the most important thing for me, sure graphics can only help to enhance the game, but that is all. Controls, gameplay, and most importantly fun are all far more important that graphics at least in my opinion.

^this, precisely.

However, I wonder what would happen if the witcher went to consoles... I mean Crysis did... I think this thread would be funnier...*reloads page lf more DA2 Vs TW2*

I would think most PC players will be pissed. 

Sorry but the developers of Witcher 2 have said they have built the game with console in mind so its only a matter of time. 

mite b cool

[Rockworm503]

Alex109222 wrote...

 meanwhile

All this overhype BS on The Witcher 2 makes me so wish that it fails big time.
Yeah you don't see me going to the witcher forums and going on about DA2.

[Melduran]

remember trolls can only be killed by fire!

[FieryDove]

Melduran wrote...

remember trolls can only be killed by fire!

and acid.

[tez19]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Alex109222 wrote...

 meanwhile

All this overhype BS on The Witcher 2 makes me so wish that it fails big time.
Yeah you don't see me going to the witcher forums and going on about DA2.

i agree with you, it just shows how many witcher apologists are on this site as when you confront them you are called a troll.
I really am amazed why they are here and not on the witcher 2 forums. Are they that boring?? strange.

[Black-Xero]

DarthCaine wrote...
Erm, dunno if this will dissapoint you or not, but that's an early build, this is Geralt's final face

I'm disappointed.I thought he looked much more cooler in the earlier build.

[KenKenpachi]

FieryDove wrote...

Melduran wrote...

remember trolls can only be killed by fire!

and acid.

And the Ban Hammer.

[Anathemic]

DarthCaine wrote...

n2nw wrote...

XBenotto18 wrote...

n2nw wrote...

Alex109222 wrote...

 meanwhile

*pic snip*

Oh my......I wish *he* was Fenris.

What a F*CKING troll, go to the witcher forums

Um, no, someone's whose been here for years and has never played (or seen) the Witcher.  And likes hot men.

But thank you for the eloquent way in which you pointed out who it was and reminded me why I only like to lurk around here.  Anyway, he's still hot.

Erm, dunno if this will dissapoint you or not, but that's an early build, this is Geralt's final face

Actually I like that build, makes it more relate to TW1's Geralt model

[Darkeus]

Savber100 wrote...

*yawn*
Another Witcher vs. Dragon Age thread?
True gamers don't compare games. Children might compare the two games since they feel insecure if a single game is not dominant but smart gamers don't generalize on an entire game based on a few hours of play or on several screenshots. Instead, one takes both games and praise the merits of both. (Witcher had an excellent atmosphere and a fun 'hack-n-slash' gameplay. DA:O had excellent voice-acting, great writing, and character development). Then, one points out the flaws of both and makes sure the opinion is not solely based on personal tastes. (I felt the Witcher lacked good pacing, some of the voice acting was pretty bad, and way too many fetch quests. DA:O's gameplay felt slow, the graphics were 'meh', and the story was cliched) Finally, conclude that both games still need improvement and eagerly await how the sequels will turn out WITHOUT jumping into conclusion before playing it.

See? Not that hard.

Wow, the voice of reason. 

This, so many times this....

[Alex109222]

Rockworm503 wrote...

Alex109222 wrote...

 meanwhile

All this overhype BS on The Witcher 2 makes me so wish that it fails big time.
Yeah you don't see me going to the witcher forums and going on about DA2.

Hmmmm keep wishing darling. And no I dont see you going on the Witcher forums and doing that, because people are already doing that 
http://tw2.thewitche...p?topic=31641.0
and look at the forums 
http://tw2.thewitche...php?board=133.0
they seem to be having a right old time. 

[AtreiyaN7]

DarthCaine wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Oh the irony - people here complain all the time that DA2 is no longer an RPG and/or is an action RPG and/or is a hack & slash, and then tout TW/TW2. Apparently, it's perfectly fine for TW2 to employ action-game mechanics vis-a-vis BA:A because...wait, why is it okay for them have action combat like BA:A? 

BTW, I loved BA:A and the control system and have no issues with such mechanics being used in an RPG, but I do see quite a bit of hypocrisy in people complaining about the whole "action" thing in DA2 when they're A-OK with it in TW/TW2.

The difference is, The Witcher was ALWAYS an Action RPG (though a very complex one). People are just mad about the huge changes, though none of those accusations are true (i've played the demo)

Yes, TW was originally action oriented, although I'd hardly call it complex based on my experience with combat in TW - and hypocrisy is hypocrisy. If people want to hold up TW2 or any other action RPG as a beacon of perfection and then bash another game for supposedly becoming more action-oriented, then it is hypocritical as far as I'm concerned.