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What is the Ultimate Sacrafice?


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BobSmith101 wrote...
Unless they just ignore the trailer Earth is going to get invaded regardless. Better start stocking up on chocolate.


Yeah and never in the history of Mass Effect has Bioware ignored a trailer.  Nope not once, never.  (sorry I couldn't help myself feel free to ignore this)

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Dr. Amada Kenson has discovered an indoctrination counter-measure, but it makes you die if you ever go near chocolate or boobies again.

No chocolate and no boobies. Ultimate sacrifice for the sake of defeating the Reapers.

How exactly would this work for FemShep? I mean she can't really get away from boobies, considering she, ahem, has them. Posted Image

I hope it doesn't mean we have to sacrifice a squaddie (or any of the crew including EDI). That's getting kinda old. I hope it's a place or a thing we have to "sacrifice".

Modifié par Exile Isan, 23 février 2011 - 01:54 .


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I still find it interesting that the assumption is that all story related DLC is tied to what is done with CDN...if you actually read the "Out of Game" statement, it simply suggests the opposite that CDN will only be present in two very specific cases...otherwise we would have the week lead up to Alternate Appearance Pack 2 - then nothing until just before the release of ME 3. I for one do not believe that the two go hand in hand.

That being said, it would not surprise me if "The Arrival" is not the last story based DLC that we get. As far as what the potential "Ultimate Sacrifice" achievement is...it is probably some form of life for a life trade. I would not be surprised if it is someone that we are very familiar with that we have to "sacrifice". However, I doubt that it will be the VS. Simply because I do not believe that Bioware would keep the VS out of the main story to ensure that they were alive - only to later kill them in a DLC.

My prediction, Anderson. Which means that this would be post SM and set-up everyone very nicely for having a valid excuse/reason for Udina being in office in ME 3 as the human councilor. But I could be wrong...

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 23 février 2011 - 04:31 .


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There's a thread on this? I was gonna make a thread on it! Ha ha ha.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

I still find it interesting that the assumption is that all story related DLC is tied to what is done with CDN...


In this instance, it's not an assumption because one CDN story mentions the same person that showed up in the leaked PS3 trophies. Now as far as the batarian-related stories go, yeah that is an assumption, but because that same name  appears in the AAP2 tlk files along with a list of batarian systems no one's heard of until now, along with notes about "EDI's warning" in the planet descriptions, it's a pretty good assumption.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 février 2011 - 08:00 .


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What I really want to know is whether the Reapers are involved in any way. At this point, it's pretty obvious that the Hegemony is our adversary in this mission, but I'm not too sure it stops at that. This is a canonical part of the overarching story, after all.

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

What I really want to know is whether the Reapers are involved in any way. At this point, it's pretty obvious that the Hegemony is our adversary in this mission, but I'm not too sure it stops at that. This is a canonical part of the overarching story, after all.


Yeah, same here. Really hoping that 'Arrival' is somehow linked to the arrival of the Reapers. I pictured sacrificing Arcturus Station or the Charon Relay in my head... maybe I pictured something too epic... :)

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My understanding of the phrase ultimate sacrifice has always meant, to sacrifice ones own life for the greater good or for someone else, however as shep has already been dead once I really doubt it means that, I would say it will be earth or an NPC i.e Anderson.

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lawp79 wrote...

... I would say it will be earth or an NPC i.e Anderson.


I'll settle for Earth :D

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Ultimate Sacrifice: Watch your LI die. permanently.

Modifié par Xan Kreigor Mk2, 23 février 2011 - 10:36 .


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Xan Kreigor Mk2 wrote...

Ultimate Sacrifice: Let your LI die. permanently.


That would be an amazingly hard sacrifice :) ... I like. Not that I would ever choose to do so... unless I started a new playthrough and romanced Tali (lol).

Modifié par CannotCompute, 23 février 2011 - 10:33 .


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CannotCompute wrote...
That would be an amazingly hard sacrifice :) ... I like. Not that I would ever choose to do so... unless I started a new playthrough and romanced Tali (lol).


yea.  i think ima play thru with miranfa as my li the first time, just to be safe lol

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Xan Kreigor Mk2 wrote...

Ultimate Sacrifice: Let your LI die. permanently.


What if you don't have one? 

You can't really plan the defining moment around a variable that may not exist.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Xan Kreigor Mk2 wrote...

Ultimate Sacrifice: Let your LI die. permanently.


What if you don't have one? 

You can't really plan the defining moment around a variable that may not exist.


No achievement for you

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Xan Kreigor Mk2 wrote...

No achievement for you


You could get all the SB ones without needing a specific playthrough, can't see this one being any different.

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why not? whats Sb gotta do with it? o.O

besides, this one has a little greater immediate impact

Modifié par Xan Kreigor Mk2, 23 février 2011 - 10:42 .


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Xan Kreigor Mk2 wrote...

why not? whats Sb gotta do with it? o.O

besides, this one has a little greater immediate impact


It's based around Liara, but you are not required to have her as your LI in order to complete it.

Your LI could die on the SM anyway. Or you may not have one. Basing a trophy on a variable like that is pretty lame. Someones already pointed out a way around it, meaning it's not even a sacrifice.

The greatest impact would be sacrficing Earth.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

It's based around Liara, but you are not required to have her as your LI in order to complete it.

Your LI could die on the SM anyway. Or you may not have one. Basing a trophy on a variable like that is pretty lame. Someones already pointed out a way around it, meaning it's not even a sacrifice.

The greatest impact would be sacrficing Earth.


It wont be Earth, too big of a plot device in numbah 3.

but yea, i didnt think it was losing your LI.

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maybe it means sacrificing the planet/area where you and you LI will retire to after the war. they could disguise it subtly as just a random planet but subsequently has big impact for the epilogue

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Xan Kreigor Mk2 wrote...

It wont be Earth, too big of a plot device in numbah 3.

but yea, i didnt think it was losing your LI.


Why not Earth?  It'd be a hell of a launching point for ME3.  Earth already isolated and under seige.  Shepard starts out under the gun.  I think it'd be great.

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The Ultimate Sacrifice is that Garrus finally throws that stick from his butt at someone

Modifié par The_Illusive, 23 février 2011 - 01:42 .


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Generally speaking, an Ultimate Sacrifice means dying for something and that means it's very unlikely to be a sacrifice that Shepard would be making (at least before ME3).  At the very least it would be something that can't be taken back or replaced but I still think it's more likely that it'll be someone else making the ultimate sacrifice.  It's also likely that you wont have a say in the matter, otherwise you'd be taking something away from the person making the sacrifice (infact it's quite possible that they'll stop Shepard from being able to make the sacrifice because they think Shepard is more important for the future).

With things like sacrificing Earth, I'd struggle to think of that as Shepard making a sacrifice since there are a lot of people on Earth and they don't exactly belong to Shepard to be sacrificed.  Shepard doesn't have that much to lose as it is (and has already died once) so it's hard to think of anything that could be sacrificed without having to involve someone else getting killed.

I'd mostly expect someone to be introduced and lost within the same episode, killing any existing characters is likely to be unpopular and could harm the story (although someone like Anderson or Udina could work I suppose).  If the DLC is long enough I think they could develop a character to the point where losing them would have an impact, it won't be easy though and I doubt it'd work for everyone.

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^Nah, I think it's the stick

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BobSmith101 wrote...

Most likely Earth. It has to be something universal, rather than specific. VS is pretty much meaningless to anyone with the PS3 version. Same with LI's lot's of Shepards don't have them.

Someone also brought up a good point on another thread about it being Shepards humanity. In order to defeat the Reapers he's got to become a "Reaper". That would be very similiar to the Grey Wardens drinking spawn blood to be able to kill the Archdemon.


Yep shepard become a reapers :police:
Finally some sense in this forum B)

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didymos1120 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

I still find it interesting that the assumption is that all story related DLC is tied to what is done with CDN...


In this instance, it's not an assumption because one CDN story mentions the same person that showed up in the leaked PS3 trophies. Now as far as the batarian-related stories go, yeah that is an assumption, but because that same name  appears in the AAP2 tlk files along with a list of batarian systems no one's heard of until now, along with notes about "EDI's warning" in the planet descriptions, it's a pretty good assumption.



What I was trying to say is that I find it interesting that because the leaked information for the "Arrival" DLC corresponds to entries already made on CDN - that this means that this particular story related DLC is the story related DLC refererred to in the "out of game" announcement on CDN.  We will not know for sure if this is the last DLC until we have the "week of CDN entries leading up to the DLC".  Or in other words, nowhere in the CDN "out of game announcement" did it suggest that any DLC remaining would only be tied in with what was done with the CDN post hiatus...

Now that I feel that I have rambled enough (and maybe confused you more), I should stop.