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AlexXIV wrote...

Just because you shoot people it is still an RPG. Action RPG maybe.


Exactly. RPG = Role Playing Game. You play the role of Commander Shepard in the ME series, you play the role of Adam Jensen in DX:HR. Just becuase it doesn't have the "tradional" elements that you have come to expect from an RPG, doesn't make it any less of an RPG.

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Does anyone really expect the game of the year to go to the "best" game? It's not quite the oscars or anything, but the whole things so subjective they might as well pick from a hat for all the difference it makes.

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Maria Caliban wrote...


Dues Ex: Human Revolution
The Witcher 2
Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
Diablo 3
Anything by Obsidian

Dragon Age II is going to struggle for 'RPG of the Year' awards.


Double fix'd.

Even though some could argue that Diablo is less of an RPG and more of a hack and slash.

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Death to the naysayers and the witcher 2 trolls! Oh and not everygame that gets a good review was "bought off"

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Actually... 9 years and 10 months more will tell. The year is still young. DA2 has no competition for now.


Actually... 8 years and 10 months, looks like someone forgot this decade started in 2010:pinched:


I know I'm going to open up a large can of worms here, but the decade started this year. Although generally speaking a decade refers to any span of ten years, when talking calendar decades they end on the 'zero' year, not start.

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I have to admit when I hear game of the decade, I hear best game in the last 10 years.

Modifié par Kileyan, 22 février 2011 - 03:20 .


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Eurypterid wrote...

Link3521 wrote...

Dynamomark wrote...

Actually... 9 years and 10 months more will tell. The year is still young. DA2 has no competition for now.


Actually... 8 years and 10 months, looks like someone forgot this decade started in 2010:pinched:


I know I'm going to open up a large can of worms here, but the decade started this year. Although generally speaking a decade refers to any span of ten years, when talking calendar decades they end on the 'zero' year, not start.


From my knowledge the 90s started in 1990 and ended in 99, it's the same with centuries and millenia, the new millenium started back in 2000 not in 2001.  It wouldn't make much sense for the year 1960 to be part of the 50s but that's just me :unsure: btw wikipedia agrees with me (for what it's worth) as does Merrian-webster, just some websites I got from googling it

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Altima Darkspells wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...


Dues Ex: Human Revolution
The Witcher 2
Elder Scrolls: Skyrim
Diablo 3
Anything by Obsidian

Dragon Age II is going to struggle for 'RPG of the Year' awards.


Double fix'd.

I'm sorry, but no. After the constant mediocre and average games (*coughAlphaProtocol/Falloutcough*) I have concluded that the only reason people even remember Obsidian's name is because of KOTOR 2. Now if you were to have said Bethesda then that would be a different story...

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wulfsturm wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Just because you shoot people it is still an RPG. Action RPG maybe.


Exactly. RPG = Role Playing Game. You play the role of Commander Shepard in the ME series, you play the role of Adam Jensen in DX:HR. Just becuase it doesn't have the "tradional" elements that you have come to expect from an RPG, doesn't make it any less of an RPG.


So is Halo an RPG then since you play the role of Spartan 117?

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wulfsturm wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Just because you shoot people it is still an RPG. Action RPG maybe.


Exactly. RPG = Role Playing Game. You play the role of Commander Shepard in the ME series, you play the role of Adam Jensen in DX:HR. Just becuase it doesn't have the "tradional" elements that you have come to expect from an RPG, doesn't make it any less of an RPG.


That is so vague, In StarCraft 2 I play the role of Jim Raynor, is that a RPG? No it's not, you dunce.

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If Diablo 3 and Dark Souls count, then you should add Dungeon Siege 3 to that list.

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Link3521 wrote...

From my knowledge the 90s started in 1990 and ended in 99, it's the same with centuries and millenia, the new millenium started back in 2000 not in 2001.  It wouldn't make much sense for the year 1960 to be part of the 50s but that's just me :unsure: btw wikipedia agrees with me (for what it's worth) as does Merrian-webster, just some websites I got from googling it

There was no year zero.

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Ziggeh wrote...

Link3521 wrote...
Actually... 8 years and 10 months, looks like someone forgot this decade started in 2010:pinched:

There was no year zero. It started at one. I was a lot of fun at millenium parties.

well technically there was a year "0" if you look at it from what the western world uses, the year 0 was the year Christ was (supposed to be) born and by convention a decade, century and millenium start in the 0 years (i.e. 1960s, 21st century starting in 2000 etc.)

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That is so vague, In StarCraft 2 I play the role of Jim Raynor, is that a RPG? No it's not, you dunce.


It could be, if the game was designed to be an RPG instead of an RTS. But SC2 has many RPG elements in it.

How's that ad hominem working out for ya? =]

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Link3521 wrote...


From my knowledge the 90s started in 1990 and ended in 99, it's the same with centuries and millenia, the new millenium started back in 2000 not in 2001.  It wouldn't make much sense for the year 1960 to be part of the 50s but that's just me :unsure: btw wikipedia agrees with me (for what it's worth) as does Merrian-webster, just some websites I got from googling it


With apologies to the OP for going a bit off topic here:

there was no year zero, so the calendar started at year one. Therefore, the first decade was year 1 to 10, the second was year 11 to 20, and so on. So yes, the millennium actually started in 2001.

And if you check the wiki, I believe you'll see it agrees with this, actually.

As for the 90s, 60s, etc. that's the kind of thing I was referring to when I noted the general sense of the use of 'decade'.

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*doesn't read thread*

It's 2011



I mean what it was up against Magicka and that was it



And Two Worlds 2



WE'll wait and see what happens when the Witcher 2 starts out



I like to go by 1's instead of 0's



0's are at the end of the 1 to 10 lifestyle bro's and brodettes

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Woah. Catty.

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They were clearly paid off.

If Skyrim gets above a 90% they were paid off too.

If TW2 gets below a 99% they were paid by Bioware to not give it a good score.

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coolide wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Just because you shoot people it is still an RPG. Action RPG maybe.


Exactly. RPG = Role Playing Game. You play the role of Commander Shepard in the ME series, you play the role of Adam Jensen in DX:HR. Just becuase it doesn't have the "tradional" elements that you have come to expect from an RPG, doesn't make it any less of an RPG.


So is Halo an RPG then since you play the role of Spartan 117?

Threads in which people attempt to define the term "rpg" always go so well. We should totally start doing that. Or we could find another way to get it locked, like hate speech.

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wulfsturm wrote...

Exactly. RPG = Role Playing Game. You play the role of Commander Shepard in the ME series, you play the role of Adam Jensen in DX:HR. Just becuase it doesn't have the "tradional" elements that you have come to expect from an RPG, doesn't make it any less of an RPG.

The difference tends to come down to whether it's the character's or the player's skills that decide about the outcome of action -- in this sense a game which relies primarily on player's reflexes can be indeed seen as "less of an rpg" because it can easily lead to situation where the player finds themselve physically not capable of "role playing" the character as they envision him/her. Or the reverse -- the character excels at tasks which they should fail badly simply because the player substituting for the character is very skilled at these tasks.

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wulfsturm wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

That is so vague, In StarCraft 2 I play the role of Jim Raynor, is that a RPG? No it's not, you dunce.


It could be, if the game was designed to be an RPG instead of an RTS. But SC2 has many RPG elements in it.

How's that ad hominem working out for ya? =]


Isn't that enough? This never ends well. Some consider COMPUTER rpgs to be full of character skill options, level ups and lots of equipment to play with. Others think RPG just means any game where you are put in the shoes of another character. At this point I think it means a rocket propelled grenade that should be aimed at any of these definition of roleplaying game arguments.

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Kileyan wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

That is so vague, In StarCraft 2 I play the role of Jim Raynor, is that a RPG? No it's not, you dunce.


It could be, if the game was designed to be an RPG instead of an RTS. But SC2 has many RPG elements in it.

How's that ad hominem working out for ya? =]


Isn't that enough? This never ends well. Some consider COMPUTER rpgs to be full of character skill options, level ups and lots of equipment to play with. Others think RPG just means any game where you are put in the shoes of another character. At this point I think it means a rocket propelled grenade that should be aimed at any of these definition of roleplaying game arguments.


This fellow knows whats up

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JigPig wrote...

They were clearly paid off.
If Skyrim gets above a 90% they were paid off too.
If TW2 gets below a 99% they were paid by Bioware to not give it a good score.


Okay, I feel like Sheldon Cooper now. Sarcasm?
It's so hard to tell these days, with all the DA2 vs. TW2 flame wars.

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Eurypterid wrote...


I know I'm going to open up a large can of worms here, but the decade started this year. Although generally speaking a decade refers to any span of ten years, when talking calendar decades they end on the 'zero' year, not start.

This man is correct.

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Anything by Obsidian


Double fix'd.

Obsidian is doing Dungeon Siege 3, which won't be finished until 2012. So, no.

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wulfsturm wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

That is so vague, In StarCraft 2 I play the role of Jim Raynor, is that a RPG? No it's not, you dunce.


It could be, if the game was designed to be an RPG instead of an RTS. But SC2 has many RPG elements in it.

How's that ad hominem working out for ya? =]


But it wasn't are you honestly going to argue that SC2 is a RPG?