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[Kolos2]

Was wondering if Hawke can be made leader of Kirkwall since on the trailer there is some kneeling

kicking the templars out for good maybe 

Modifié par Kolos2, 22 février 2011 - 11:46 .

[The Archon]

No.

[DarthCaine]

Are you sure you wanna be spoiled?

In that case, according the the achievements, YES you'll become the viscount at some point, and it looks like it's unavoidable

The Archon wrote...

No.

Dead wrong.

Modifié par DarthCaine, 22 février 2011 - 12:01 .

[Russalka]

They said the achievements might not mean what we think they do. Obvious or not, it is still speculation.

[The Archon]

DarthCaine wrote...

Are you sure you wanna be spoiled?

In that case, according the the achievements, YES you'll become the viscount at some point, and it looks like it's unavoidable

The Archon wrote...

No.

Dead wrong.

I was not referring to "no" as it will never happen, I was referring to no as in I don't want it to happen. It will basically just be Landsmeet all over again.

Also, the achievement states to "seize the throne." but you could just be helping somebody do it and if Hawke was actually Viscount, I'm pretty sure that Cassandra would refer to him as it instead of "Champion of Kirkwall".

Modifié par The Archon, 22 février 2011 - 12:07 .

[DarthCaine]

Russalka wrote...

They said the achievements might not mean what we think they do.

There was a full description of all achievements on some site, not just the titles.

http://www.xbox360ac...2/achievements/

Crowning Glory - Became the viscount of Kirkwall.

Looks pretty clear to me

Modifié par DarthCaine, 22 février 2011 - 12:08 .

[Kolos2]

yeah but in DA.O you aint king be that dorf of human one

[Russalka]

Well, I stand corrected. I only saw the achievements from the official sites with no descriptions and then a Bioware post later about them. But it is their job to mislead people at times.

[Raygereio]

Kolos2 wrote...
yeah but in DA.O you aint king be that dorf of human one

O_o Could you try that sentence again? In a coherent language, maybe?

[Loc'n'lol]

No, I want to be nothing less than eternal god-emperor of Kirkwall.

[Jarumda]

Well here's what I don't get then, if Hawke is the Viscount of Kirkwall, wouldn't he/she be fairly easy for Cassandra to track down? Whats with the interrogation !

[Kyosukedei]

no one apparantly KNOW how to be viscount, even though 2 cutscenes showing him being viscount was shown in the trailer

[templeoffuji]

Russalka wrote...

They said the achievements might not mean what we think they do. Obvious or not, it is still speculation.

First post on here. Not going to post spoilers and ruin the fun but yes you can become the Viscount but it's not intil the 'end' of the game. There isnt a cutscene showing you getting crowned. I have unlocked this already, PSN - Kuniva316

[micheal001]

You'll get your Viscount in a 5mb DLC for 10.00 dollars MMMHAHAHAH

[Herbal Mater 09]

Jarumda wrote...

Well here's what I don't get then, if Hawke is the Viscount of Kirkwall, wouldn't he/she be fairly easy for Cassandra to track down? Whats with the interrogation !

Agreed. I'm going to try and go that route for my second playthrough and see how that turns out. The problem with this game is that it seems much more linear than DA:O. Even though the aspect is hidden behind un-important choices that make it seem like you can alter the ending events--which you can't it seems.

[MisterP58]

Herbal Mater 09 wrote...

The problem with this game is that it seems much more linear than DA:O. Even though the aspect is hidden behind un-important choices that make it seem like you can alter the ending events--which you can't it seems.

You know, I've been reading this sentiment a lot lately, but you can't really alter the ending of DA:O that much, either. You always gather four armies and kill the archdemon. Your major, lasting decisions involve who lives and dies. Then again, companions can die in DA2, too. Hawke can't, unlike the Warden. Of course DA:O had the OGB, which I can't find a parallel to in DA2.

So what were these major ending events in DA:O that you could alter? Really, it came down to: send Alistair/Loghain to kill the Archdemon, kill him myself and die or kill him myself and live. In all scenarios you end the Blight and become the Hero of Fereldan.

There were plenty of choices during the game that involved killing NPCs, saving NPCS, recruiting or not recruiting characters, blah blah blah but DA2 has stuff like that, too.

I'm not specifically attacking you; I've just seen this attitude a lot on these forums and don't quite understand it. Maybe I've forgotten something about DA:O.

[augustburnt]

HOLY THREAD NECRO BATMAN

[Herbal Mater 09]

MisterP58 wrote...

Herbal Mater 09 wrote...

The problem with this game is that it seems much more linear than DA:O. Even though the aspect is hidden behind un-important choices that make it seem like you can alter the ending events--which you can't it seems.

You know, I've been reading this sentiment a lot lately, but you can't really alter the ending of DA:O that much, either. You always gather four armies and kill the archdemon. Your major, lasting decisions involve who lives and dies. Then again, companions can die in DA2, too. Hawke can't, unlike the Warden. Of course DA:O had the OGB, which I can't find a parallel to in DA2.

So what were these major ending events in DA:O that you could alter? Really, it came down to: send Alistair/Loghain to kill the Archdemon, kill him myself and die or kill him myself and live. In all scenarios you end the Blight and become the Hero of Fereldan.

There were plenty of choices during the game that involved killing NPCs, saving NPCS, recruiting or not recruiting characters, blah blah blah but DA2 has stuff like that, too.

I'm not specifically attacking you; I've just seen this attitude a lot on these forums and don't quite understand it. Maybe I've forgotten something about DA:O.

I can see your point. I guess I was referring more to the
general choices in DA:O and not necessarily the possible endings—although there
does seem to be more possibilities in the original game’s ending. For example,
you could decide the fate of not only Fereldan’s ruler but also the fates of
the dwarves, the dalish, and all those connected—werewolves and ruling family.

 

But back to the linear aspect, in DA:O you could decide what
your next move will be—yes each choice had two possibilities, but you could
also decide which choices to make first. In this game you really only get to
decide if you’re going to do the side quests or not. I’m not trying to knock
down DA 2. I really enjoyed the game. But the linear aspect and the… end—don’t
want to give any spoilers—was a bit of a disappointment.

[Kubriki]

I'm guessing in order to become the Viscount, you have to side with the templars, in every decision. Never siding or sparing the mages. When you talk with King Alistair and you are given an option in the chat saying "Well you could help me become Viscount." and his response is, I'm afraid my help wouldn't mean much without the full support of the Templars.

[SelphieSK]

Kubriki wrote...

I'm guessing in order to become the Viscount, you have to side with the templars, in every decision. Never siding or sparing the mages. When you talk with King Alistair and you are given an option in the chat saying "Well you could help me become Viscount." and his response is, I'm afraid my help wouldn't mean much without the full support of the Templars.

You just need to side with them in the end. What you did previously doesn't matter.

[ThadiousJayble]

I am really glad I just found this thread because I have been searching everywhere for an answer on how to become the viscount, I just want the achievement

[ThadiousJayble]

Herbal Mater 09 wrote...

MisterP58 wrote...

Herbal Mater 09 wrote...

The problem with this game is that it seems much more linear than DA:O. Even though the aspect is hidden behind un-important choices that make it seem like you can alter the ending events--which you can't it seems.

You know, I've been reading this sentiment a lot lately, but you can't really alter the ending of DA:O that much, either. You always gather four armies and kill the archdemon. Your major, lasting decisions involve who lives and dies. Then again, companions can die in DA2, too. Hawke can't, unlike the Warden. Of course DA:O had the OGB, which I can't find a parallel to in DA2.

So what were these major ending events in DA:O that you could alter? Really, it came down to: send Alistair/Loghain to kill the Archdemon, kill him myself and die or kill him myself and live. In all scenarios you end the Blight and become the Hero of Fereldan.

There were plenty of choices during the game that involved killing NPCs, saving NPCS, recruiting or not recruiting characters, blah blah blah but DA2 has stuff like that, too.

I'm not specifically attacking you; I've just seen this attitude a lot on these forums and don't quite understand it. Maybe I've forgotten something about DA:O.

I can see your point. I guess I was referring more to the
general choices in DA:O and not necessarily the possible endings—although there
does seem to be more possibilities in the original game’s ending. For example,
you could decide the fate of not only Fereldan’s ruler but also the fates of
the dwarves, the dalish, and all those connected—werewolves and ruling family.

 

But back to the linear aspect, in DA:O you could decide what
your next move will be—yes each choice had two possibilities, but you could
also decide which choices to make first. In this game you really only get to
decide if you’re going to do the side quests or not. I’m not trying to knock
down DA 2. I really enjoyed the game. But the linear aspect and the… end—don’t
want to give any spoilers—was a bit of a disappointment.

You are both right...DA:O had a few choices that SLIGHTLY altered the ending and DA2 is VERY linear indeed, still 2 of my favorite games though

[bill4747bill]

Kolos2 wrote...

Was wondering if Hawke can be made leader of Kirkwall since on the trailer there is some kneeling

kicking the templars out for good maybe 

Very Spoilerific!

[Quala]

as far as i remember Varric asks about future in somewhere (hope this doesnt count as spoil)
at my 5th playtrough im gonna try that gotta get all achivements....

[Azure Bart]

well its impossible if u side with the mages because well IDK u just cant D': started my 2nd playthrough and only need 16 more achievments 2 get 100% YAY!