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32 inch HD LCD tv has a pricetag of 295$ on amazon.com. If you haven't saved up for that yet, well... :\\ I guess time moves forward and it's time to let go of the good old 'SD' televisions.

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But I have an HDTV, and it doesn't matter. Yiste, aren't you guys paying attention? The print size may be fine for pc's, but they're selling console games. The console games feature print that is too small to read under any given circumstances. Period. It's ridiculous. Especially for a game that changes according to the wording we choose to use.

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I had into the same problem with DA:O as there were usually other people using the main TV. Using the component cables Y/Pb/Pr instead of the composite cables made the text much sharper and easier to read. Obviously not all SDTV's have component inputs or S-video but it might help some.

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So you're saying that your having problems reading the text on a proper HDTV? I can read font size 10 in pretty much any font on my HDTV, no problem...

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I was having this same problem but then I went out and bought a 32" hdtv which is the same size as my sdtv and it looked like the text would still be unreadable until I switched my xbox over to the correct hd setting in the settings on my xbobx. I can read it perfectly now.

Modifié par Tenshi No Kage, 05 mars 2011 - 01:12 .


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Exactly. I sit maybe 10' from my 47" HDTV, and I cannot read that text. It's very crisp and sharp when I stand up and walk up to it, but I shouldn't have to do that. Didn't have to with DA:O.

It's as if my publisher came up with the most beautiful book cover ever -- and they forgot to make the book legible. It would be unacceptable to every reader (or potential reader, rather) who picked it up. If I were Bioware, I'd be embarrassed that this thread even exists. It's such a basic thing, and it should never have gotten this far without being corrected.

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Sounds like a settings issue to me. Have you checked your XBOX resolution settings? In addition to making sure you're using an HDMI cable?

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it's a PS3, but yes. Checked everything. Re-checked everything in disbelief. HDMI, 1080p, etc. I have to stretch the screen to 'full screen' to read anything, and then everybody gets all wide and stocky.

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Odd.. Never heard of a PS3 title with text problems on a HDTV, which after all, gives you a pretty good resolution. My suggestion is to try to post a picture so the devs can see exactly what it looks like on your setup, in addition to writing down your exact setup. That way they may be able to help you.

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Trikun wrote...

32 inch HD LCD tv has a pricetag of 295$ on amazon.com. If you haven't saved up for that yet, well... : I guess time moves forward and it's time to let go of the good old 'SD' televisions.

Blow $360 on Dragon Age or spend that money on 6 other new games? I love Dragon Age, but the choice is obvious; Dragon Age is not worth $360.

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T9XKR3W wrote...

Trikun wrote...

32 inch HD LCD tv has a pricetag of 295$ on amazon.com. If you haven't saved up for that yet, well... : I guess time moves forward and it's time to let go of the good old 'SD' televisions.

Blow $360 on Dragon Age or spend that money on 6 other new games? I love Dragon Age, but the choice is obvious; Dragon Age is not worth $360.


I'm sure you will use the new TV for more than DA2, unless you plan to box it up and place it in the closet after you are done with DA2. *shrug*

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Even if I get a HDTV, I can't ignore the fact that the text will still be too small for those who have standard.

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I hope this gets addressed in the live chat soon.

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nisallik wrote...

I'm sure you will use the new TV for more than DA2, unless you plan to box it up and place it in the closet after you are done with DA2. *shrug*


You're missing the point.  If we didn't have an HDTV before we found out about the text size in DA2, then it stands to reason that we had already considered the pros and cons of such a purchase and still decided against it.  I'm sure there are plenty of things other than playing DA2 that I could use an HDTV for, I just don't care about them.  So it really would be like spending $300 dollars on one video game.  Until my TV breaks down on me, I have no viable reason to waste money like that.

The argument that games are HD now and that we have no right to complain is flawed from the get-go.  I've owned my X-Box since 2007, when HDTV market share was considerably lower.  Heck, the fact that the X-Box plays HDDVDs instead of blueray is evidence of how archaic this hardware is.  It's such a trivial thing to give us the option to increase the text size, something even a lot of HD users are asking for, that our complaints are hardly unreasonable.

Having said that, the only text that is 100% illegible is the names of enemies that float over your target's head in combat.  Maybe instead, display the current target's portrait, health & name with a proper font size in the lower left hand corner of the screen?

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Sooo...I just got a brand new 50" HDTV today as my boyfriend has been wanting one and had enough money saved up for something else which fell through. I tried out the demo on it after we set it up and the text is still too small. I can read it fine and it is crisp and clear, but I still really do not like how small it is. This is something they really need to change.

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My Dialogue wheel was quite small.. idk if changing resolution actually helps.

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Tried the demo and the text is barely readable on my 32" SDTV :(

I like the fact that the game support 4:3 fullscreen mode (that's very good :) ), but the UI is not optimized at all.
I don't really know why it's so difficult for EA games to do what other developers do: support both types of televisions.

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ME2 was this way. I had a small TV for my first playthrough and found myself squinting to read dialogue. Thankfully I was able to purchase a new television. I realize that for some this is not an option.

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I'm 100 million percent with you guys but i think the devs foresaw this problem which is why the center icon contains symbols to tell us what attitude the comment we cant read is. But i'd love a patch i mean when i play dead rising i have to ignore Otis

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AfrokingJ wrote...

I'm 100 million percent with you guys but i think the devs foresaw this problem which is why the center icon contains symbols to tell us what attitude the comment we cant read is. But i'd love a patch i mean when i play dead rising i have to ignore Otis


Yeah. That's why I never really seriously played DR too much. I'd probably be extremely upset if I'd paid more than $10 for it. But at least that game, you could just go around murdering zombies in inventive and awesome ways without worrying about story. Plus they fixed the issue for DR2, something BioWare didn't learn from ME2 to DA2. <_<

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I went out to Gamestop and purchased a cable to hook my 360 up to my pc monitor (cost $40, but hey, cheaper than an HD TV at least), which has taken care of the problem for me...for the most part. Things look a ton better, but I would still really like to see this issue addressed. It is not fair to expect everyone to either go out and get this cable or an HDTV if they can't read things.

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SorenTrigg wrote...
I went out to Gamestop and purchased a cable to hook my 360 up to my pc monitor (cost $40, but hey, cheaper than an HD TV at least), which has taken care of the problem for me..


I'm trying to do the same thing too, actually. I ordered a AV to VGA cable online. I just hope it arrives sometime next week. I'm wondering how connecting an xbox to a pc monitor will work though. Does your monitor have built in speakers or are you able to connect them? My pc monitor only has an audio-out option so I guess I won't be able to connect my speakers to it.

I've given up on bioware addressing this issue, so now I'm just trying to find an alternative way to play the game. Not sure if my pc monitor will work out, but I guess it is worth a try.

Modifié par SapphireFire, 06 mars 2011 - 07:59 .


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For some with SDTVs that don't want to upgrade to HDTV, have you checked to see if you are using the best video cable connection your TV supports? Many of the recent SDTVs included "component" cable connectivity (the blue, red and green three pronged video cable) as opposed to the older composite video (single yellow). You may also have an option for "S-Video" which is better than the older composite cables.

The order, in terms of quality are:

Component (three pronged cable) > S Video > Composite (single yellow cable)

Try one of the better connections, if you can.

ALso, short of that, you may want to calibrate your TV. Usually this is something we do for HDTVs, but you can gain some clarity on an SDTV too. This should be to adjust brightness, contrast, sharpness, etc. It would require a DVD disk designed for calibration (some movies have the THQ calibration software included in the menus).

Good luck!

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SorenTrigg wrote...

I went out to Gamestop and purchased a cable to hook my 360 up to my pc monitor (cost $40, but hey, cheaper than an HD TV at least), which has taken care of the problem for me...for the most part. Things look a ton better, but I would still really like to see this issue addressed. It is not fair to expect everyone to either go out and get this cable or an HDTV if they can't read things.


Return it today and order the same cable at www.monoprice.com for $3.

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SapphireFire wrote...

SorenTrigg wrote...
I went out to Gamestop and purchased a cable to hook my 360 up to my pc monitor (cost $40, but hey, cheaper than an HD TV at least), which has taken care of the problem for me..


I'm trying to do the same thing too, actually. I ordered a AV to VGA cable online. I just hope it arrives sometime next week. I'm wondering how connecting an xbox to a pc monitor will work though. Does your monitor have built in speakers or are you able to connect them? My pc monitor only has an audio-out option so I guess I won't be able to connect my speakers to it.

I've given up on bioware addressing this issue, so now I'm just trying to find an alternative way to play the game. Not sure if my pc monitor will work out, but I guess it is worth a try.

The Widescreen option was a little better and has had varying results for some people, so if you can't use your monitor, could at least see if that helps any. It did make it so I didn't get a headache squinting to read the text. If you can't hook to monitor and widescreen doesn't help enough, you're pretty much down to either not buying the game or hoping to catch a really good deal on an HDTV. (Which is the ONLY reason I gave in and bought one over this stupid issue. Found a 32 inch w/ built-in DVD for $230 + free ship. Pretty much a deal you can't pass up. Might wanna keep an eye on Cowboom.com and see if they run any good deals again sometime soon if you can even remotely afford it)