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[mcha82]

I was under the impression that the PC version was going to allow a more isometric view, can someone tell me if that is still the case? Or is what we see from the Demo that actual combat of the Full PC game?

[obie191970]

boba1974 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

obie191970 wrote...
I wish they made role-playing games the way they used to. These days are all about 'big choices' and 'visceral combat.’ I miss those old games where you had to remember to drink water, and it took five hours real time to fly somewhere.

*snerk*  Huzzah to you 

Where's my "I wish this was Baldur's Gate" stamp?  I seriously need one.  Expecting every BioWare game to be like BG2 is like expecting every Valve game to be Team Fortress 2.  They're fantastic games, but even fantastic games can get stale.

The fact that you chose one of the worst Valve games as your example says a great deal about your gaming tastes and why you like this drivel.

Baldur's Gate = Half Life

And his little quip makes no sense, because I cannot EVER remember having to travel for 5 hours or having to remember to drink water in a single-player rpg. He's obviously talking about EQ, which has no bearing on this genre at all...it's an MMO. He's probably never even played BG.

As I mentioned above, I'm an old gamer whose played all the Infinity games and still have them all on my computer.  I still enjoy them, but I would be disappointed if they were released today.  I loved the Witcher too and can't wait for the second one.  It's ok to like different games for what they bring to the table - To me, Bioware is a storyteller and I have yet to be let down by that - I can't think of a Bioware release where there wasn't some issue I had with the gameplay.  I don't need nor want every game to be hardcore old school RPG. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

boba1974 wrote...
The fact that you chose one of the worst Valve games as your example says a great deal about your gaming tastes and why you like this drivel.

OK, let's make something very clear that should be self-evident but has apparently gotten lost in the mire of butthurt over Dragon Age 2.  

Games are for fun.

If someone is having fun playing a game, that's great.  That is the point of games.  It doesn't matter whether the game is World of Warcraft or Baldur's Gate or Dragon Age 2 or Pokemon.  If you're having fun, you're doing it right, and that's all that matters.

I happen to think TF2 was fun.  I also happen to think that Baldur's Gate, Fallout, Heavy Rain, PS:T, KOTOR, Uncharted 2, Civ V, World of Goo, Twilight Princess, World of Warcraft, God of War III, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Little Big Planet, Valkyria Chronicles, and Pokemon SoulSilver were fun.  And that's...pretty much all the depth or meaning there is in that.

[Big_Stupid_Jelly]

WarBaby2 wrote...

AlekNovy wrote...

I think its more about insecurity among female players, than realism. Its not like every female character looks like that... Only some. And that's true in real life.

And there are women like Isabelle in the realword... actually...  and many women hate these too.^^

Funny conversation... *smirks*

Its fairly amusing when people start talking about breasts in games, or in movies for that matter. Look at the furore in ME1 with that scene, FOX news was in melt down.

Americans, for example, have no problem with gratuitous violence, but see some breasts, or worse, and they go into a religious fervour.

[Will Doherty]

Maleficent wrote...

RPG=Role Playing Game lemme see not number crunching game that would be an ncg.This bull about the way of rpgs or jrpgs and the new is destroying it is simply in your minds.Mass Effect,Dragon age and fallout represent that defintion of role playing better than say FF series for eg. if you don't like it dont pays ya money!

Go play Halo

[Lastyrsman]

WarBaby2 wrote...

AlekNovy wrote...

I think its more about insecurity among female players, than realism. Its not like every female character looks like that... Only some. And that's true in real life.

And there are women like Isabelle in the realword... actually...  and many women hate these too.^^

Funny conversation... *smirks*

What I hope to see - and have seen in previous Bioware games is women that are sultry, women that are intelligent, women that are flippant, and woman that are cold.  You know, like in real life.  Yes, buxom is kosher too if its within reason... which your sister in the game does kind of push (I mean come on! She's your sister, save that for characters I don't have to stare at or feel protective of or... feel like I should move to Arkansas for.

[DJBare]

I'm with some others, lets see a simple poll for the demo.

Something as simple as...



PC - 1....10

XBOX - 1....10

PS3 - 1....10

[RedWulfi]

I think people here are getting overly vicious and talk like their opinion is the only one that matters.

I found faults with the game but bashing it doesnt make it a review of the game. Remember its a beta not the real thing and I have seen huge differences between the two. Its only a taste of the game not the proper thing and people seem to be forgetting that. Bioware have restricted most of the gameplay features because they dont want to show too much.



Great beta, love the combat compared to DAO because shuffling around the mobs took forefer as a warrior. By the time my character had started hitting the mobs they would already be dead. I feel like im more in control in DA2. Im also liking the idea so far of not using heals. Makes you wanna take down the mobs faster before anyone takes damage. Personally i cant find any faults in my opinion. Maybe because im not fussed lol

[TrackerTrem]

I do think it was kind of tacky what Isabela did. You just meet her and she's already inviting you to her room in the hanged man? What happened to some sort of dialogue, or flirting first? She's TOO Fast

[LenweElenssar]

go straight to cons... Graphs are good just lothering turned into a wasteland is just...wrong.As for the hurlock, it feels like they are the fanclub of the joker or something. Old hurlocks were more scary... Gameplay is ridiculousy overpaced. You cant swing a 2h sword that fast. It's impossible. i felt nah about the gameplay, great for those who likes action games but not for me who likes the old roleplaying fights better. Also to remove character creation with background took a lot of roleplaying felling outta it. Summary graphs good, fights bad, roleplaying factor awful. I did not feel like i was associated with this char in any way. He was just an embodyment of a walking slaugher. No roleplaying at all. I'll stick to playing DA:o where there is roleplaying involved. Call this an action game instead because that's what it is..

[Maelora]

Miniazza wrote...
It happened in ME2 with the end of mission brief. Breaks things up.

What was even worse was doing the N7 missions after the Collector Base.
 
'Hey Illusive Man, I just stole your ship, your crew, and told you to f-off. Why are you still paying me?"

But otherwise, yeah, agree with every word you say.

They changed about 95% of the game, so it's pretty obvious that people who loved DAO aren't going to like the new anime/action-game direction.

Modifié par Maelora, 23 février 2011 - 09:51 .

[AlekNovy]

Aroya wrote...

Wrong, I have pretty big ones.  It's about realism.

Realism? Its not a "lifestyle simulator" or a sims game. Its a fantasy game with matrix-neo-style combat, and you're talking "realism" on breast sizes? How would you know anyway? Did you finish the game and measure every female character in the game and then compare the percentages to real world averages?

Or is everyone going off of Isabella? There were 5 female characters in the demo... Only isabella had the huge breasts. So what's the issue? In my high-school class there were 2 girls who looked like Isabella (out of 12 girls), so that sometimes happens. Its not like its super-rare.

If every female had isabella-sized-breasts, you might be onto somethign, but as it, I smell female gamers feel cattiness while playing the game.

[Big_Stupid_Jelly]

TrackerTrem wrote...

I do think it was kind of tacky what Isabela did. You just meet her and she's already inviting you to her room in the hanged man? What happened to some sort of dialogue, or flirting first? She's TOO Fast

She's not a prostitute, she's just telling you she fancies you, and lets you know - she is just extremely direct and I suppose in her line of work when you don't know when you may get killed, its the best policy.

[STiAT]

Hi,

I played all 3 characters in different "specs" (as far as possible) trough the demo now (PC) - and I'm quite impressed. It took me a while to get the controls and spells known, but it turned out to be quite fun, especially the "new" combat system, looks like more action than the previews one (especially the mages staff animations rocks!).
Although, it's really just a "preview", and you can't tell much about the game we will be playing in a few weeks.

For the Story it was okay, nothing more or less, not really exciting, but not bad either, but the story will probably shine when you get in the depth of the game, this is rather a really limited preview story-whise, without real choices to make.

The graphics .. I will need to get used to it, or it was just my graphics setting, but it looked worse than DA:O. Far worse, but probably it is also due to playing in DX9 instead of DX11.

What is really nicely done (my point of view) is the health potion and lyrium potion button. I just hope it will use the "right" one, but to fiddle in the menu was always not really nice in the original version.

But since I do not really care about the graphics if the combat system and story are nice, I'd say it definitely awakened my appetite for more.

And hands down, the new skill-system is really well thought and a really good one. I appreciate it being able to spare points for things I really want to have, gives me more options.

Downside: I would have loved playing it on hard or nightmare, normal always was just boring and not challanging.

PS: I want achievements! Hope you did not forget about them.. kept me playing DA:O for a while (396 hours, actually, including all DLCs)

Modifié par STiAT, 23 février 2011 - 10:04 .

[Shreav]

Aroya wrote...

AlekNovy wrote...

Aroya wrote...

Pugz wrote...

You guys seriously complaining about ****** in a video game? Nice...

I think it's more about realism then actually complaining about size.

I think its more about insecurity among female players, than realism. Its not like every female character looks like that... Only some. And that's true in real life.

Wrong, I have pretty big ones.  It's about realism.

Maybe she has a stronger pair of legs and back than you.

[Badpie]

WarBaby2 wrote...

AlekNovy wrote...

I think its more about insecurity among female players, than realism. Its not like every female character looks like that... Only some. And that's true in real life.

And there are women like Isabelle in the realword... actually...  and many women hate these too.^^

Funny conversation... *smirks*

Thank you for taking my relevant opinion and discussion point and somehow twisting it into a predictable "You juss jellus" post.  I admire your maturity.

My issue is not with breasts or the many different types and sizes other women like me have.  My issues is that there is a serious amount of booby overkill in DA2.  It's distracting to me.  Literally as Momhawke was leaned over crying I simply couldn't see or hear anything other than "titstitstitstitstits."    Someone brought up Morrigan earlier - and sure she was a sexed up, large breasted sultry character, but I never for a second felt like there is no way a person in real life could ever look like that without looking like a really weird human being.  

It simply detracts from any sort of realism for me.

[obie191970]

Big_Stupid_Jelly wrote...

TrackerTrem wrote...

I do think it was kind of tacky what Isabela did. You just meet her and she's already inviting you to her room in the hanged man? What happened to some sort of dialogue, or flirting first? She's TOO Fast

She's not a prostitute, she's just telling you she fancies you, and lets you know - she is just extremely direct and I suppose in her line of work when you don't know when you may get killed, its the best policy.

Well, that and you could have a foursome the first time you ever met her.

[ENolan]

JohnEpler wrote...

Here's a very simple rule for discussion on these forums.

If you bring up a complaint and avoid insulting others in your post, congratulations! You've made a successful post.

If you find yourself using the phrase 'ADHD casual masses', 'console kiddies' or anything similar in your post, you're likely not contributing to the discussion in a constructive way and should probably refrain from posting.

If only that ended the useless debates at this point...<_<

[Garak2]

Big_Stupid_Jelly wrote...

Splindicator wrote...

I wonder how the devs are feeling about this polarized feedback...kind of a love it or hate thing going right now. I also wonder how many people will "just get use to it and luv it" eventually. I really did not like DA:O at first but after a few hours I started to settle in and ended up really loving the game.

Thats exactly how I was with Origins, it took me at least one playthrough before it all clicked, and i knew what I was doing and actually being able to do the fade in the circle tower in under a few hours.

If you have to playthrough a game once to "get it" then that seems like bad design, doesn't it?

[John Epler]

Maelora wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
Here's a very simple rule for discussion on these forums.
If you bring up a complaint and avoid insulting others in your post, congratulations! You've made a successful post.
If you find yourself using the phrase 'ADHD casual masses', 'console kiddies' or anything similar in your post, you're likely not contributing to the discussion in a constructive way and should probably refrain from posting.
This has been a public service announcement.

I dislike what I've seen of DA2 because it seems to have changed too much from the original.  I feel it's moved away from being a real RPG.

Is that allowed, or does any criticism of BW now earn you the banhammer?

The moderators seem heavy-handed and overly-defensive to me.

If folks are simply posting their criticisms of the demo, then they are not being banned. I don't mind people having negative opinions - however, hostility towards other users is not tolerated, nor is deliberately provoking a negative response.

Today, I have banned folks for:
-sexism
-homophobia
-insulting the intelligence of other users
-spamming
-racism

These are all clear violations of the Terms of Service. Again - be as negative as you want towards the game, but if you're going to insult another user/group, you will be banned. This is not new.

[Maelora]

Okay, fair point and we'll hold you to that.

Modifié par Maelora, 23 février 2011 - 09:56 .

[wyverngem]

I almost gave up on the 8 hour download wait for the demo, but went ahead and let it take it's time (pc). I can't believe how awestruck I am! It's really amazing the difference from Origins, but as a stand alone it has to be the best game I've ever seen. Especially with the upgraded battle system and how it handle classes. You feel the speed when you play rogue. Not only is it easy to get to enemies now, but you're not tied up running to an enemy or dying as you try to get out of range. I adore how easy it is to get behind enemies to avoid damage. It's not a tied down feeling, like you feet have to be planted right on the ground plane. If your character's a rogue you might as well feel free like one.

The changes you made to the mage class has to be my favorite. My favorite classes are the mages and it's really impressive to actually have them feel part of the battle instead of standing there off the sidelines. You actually see that they have more movement in battle, and it's seamless how it switched between close up and ranged attacking. Another thing I notice was that the tactics feel apart of the game. In Origins I just never got the impression that the character used them so I never did. The tactics feel more apart of the battles. Overall there is a lot more movement, but I don't feel lost on the screen trying to find party members.



However, I'm more of a story person and this taste wasn't really enough for me. The opening was nice, but the skipping around gave me a headache. Along with not being able to use health potions for the first battle either... I didn't really see the point of showing off Isabella. The only thing that was really shown with her were in-between things that were already shown in the trailers, there was really nothing added to her that you already didn't know from reading the information found on the main site. It would have bee more interesting to see more of a plot in general. It's easy to see the premise, but it's hard to see more of the actual plot.



And on a more personal note, I'm getting so annoyed at snobs who complain about graphics. Seriously! Do any of you remember 8-bit graphics and horribly mangled human sprites looked? There were games had that had great game play and amazing stories without graphics being so pristine that they can blind you. The art of a game and style is important. No one wants glitched textures or noise in models while playing a game or clicking movements when character or objects move, it breaks the idea that you're playing a game and draws you out of the story. Dragon Age 2 had none of these things when it comes to graphics, even at the lowest settings possible it still looks fine.



Dragon Age II is a story, the user gets pulled in and you forget it's on a screen. Despite the issues with the jumping on the demo, I'm still looking forward to the game. I’m really glad that I let it download.

[Erani]

I really don't see how female characters having bigger breasts is unrealistic. Very small breasts would actually be way more unrealistic as A cup in America and Europe, for adult women, is very rare compared to B,C, and D. Yes, it varies by country, but approximately A~10%, B~30%, C and D around 50% added together. Several studies confirm this (pm me for specific sources), so I really don't understand why people are complaining about this.