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[Maleficent]

wow dumbed down,button mashing mess,messed up dialogue and interesting story gone!!! wow just wow ,it's a slice and a very small slice of the pie at that and what a nice pie it is.Lets's see all those comments reversed when the full experience is in hand:)Dragon Age lives on it just might be a case in future of losing a few fans ,you can't please everybody:)

[obie191970]

Invalidcode wrote...

Combat: Lots of people are saying DA2 doesn't play like a RPG at all? Hit, miss, damage, armor, buff debuff CC are still there, and judge by the demo those are still based on your states. Animation looks very flashy but it is follow by 'normal' RPG rules. Don't get misguided by the flashy and seeming fast animation people!

Skills: You can mash, for now, during the demo which is locked at 'Normal'. Chances are during 'Hard' & 'Nightmare' the player would need to manage the use of skills, magic and their CD. FF should present I bet? 

Agreed, this is going to play a lot differently from the demo on the higher difficulties and a lot closer to what people were expecting.  DAO was easy on Normal as well without the need of utilizing your party.

[esigma444]

It took forever to download on my 360 but it was so worth it. I played it 2 1/2 times. Fell asleep during my mage play through was exhausted. Loving it so far. I like the improvements to combat. the characters look good. Enough must finish with a mage, 2h warrior, and archer.

[Top Gun volleyball]

I don't what I was playing last night but it most certainly was not an RPG. In fact, calling DA 2 an RPG is a slap in the face to RPGs. After a few minutes of gameplay I felt like I was playing Devil May Cry or Heavenly Sword. Probably because BioWare decided to take everything I loved about Origins, throw it out, and then feature some kind of mindless button mashing console crap. **** this game, seriously.

BioWare is no longer a maker of RPGs. The tragedy is that they used to be a titan in the genre but they decided to cater to the console crowd.

Oh, and Isabella's breasts are cartoonish and ridiculous. Kind of like something you see in a Hustler comic strip. I suggest you stop letting the pervs in your design team model the female characters. That would be a start.

Another franchise has been 'consolized'.

Modifié par Top Gun volleyball, 23 février 2011 - 11:02 .

[mario159951]

The change in the combat really surprised me.  I'd read about the new combat system for months but I didn't fully understand it until I played it.  I have mixed feelings though because at first it seemed like a button masher.  Hopefully as the game progresses and your characters have access to more skills, strategy will play a greater role in fights.  The only other thing that bugged me was the fact that Hawke's actual response seemed to deviate too much more from what the dialogue wheel actually said.  I'm glad to see that the game is much more polished than DAO was which seemed to have problems with lagging on my PS3.  Overall I'm satisfied with the demo and I believe that my preorder will pay off. (Although it seems like my EA account didn't recognize my completion of the demo even though I was logged in when I played it.)

[destroyer 654]

Paxhell wrote...

I am glad I didnt pre-ordered DA 2 because it dont feels like a rpg game anymore..more like a hack n slash action game.

How is this an action game? There are abilities you can use, you can pause the game, upgrade items. Change your characters looks, choose what you say. This is not an action game like God of war. This is the same as origins except faster combat.

[cobretti1818]

Worst thing about the demo were those horrible low quality movies they used - the one with Isabela in the bar fight and the promo at the end of the demo.

They looked AWFUL - like low quaity VHS movies from the 80's.

Bioware.....please.....1080p or just don't bother.



Also, in the full game will you be able to change weapons on the fly like in Origins? e.g. Rogue changing from daggers to bow with the press of a button. Really annoyed me you couldn't do this in the demo.

[eliesan]

Enjoyed the first part of the demo, but the game locks up once I start to play my character.

Anyone elso have this problem?

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Intel DX58S0 17 Motherboard, Intel 17 950 3.06Ghz, 8MB Cache
Processor, 4 x Kingston DDR3 1333Mhz 2GB, 900 Watt Power Supply, 2 x !TB
Western Digital SATA HD, N460 GTX Video Card, 35inOne Merory Card Reader, 2 x
24X DVD, Windows 4 Ultimate 64Bit

That being said, the first part of the demo is great, but the game keeps locking up once I begin playing my character.
Anyone have the same problem?

Modifié par eliesan, 24 février 2011 - 02:36 .

[DJBare]

Garak2 wrote...
Well, that makes me feel a little better. I hope using DX10 (via DX11) will improve the graphics.

You have no idea how much of a relief it is to me that someone actually got it

[BeljoraDien]

I was such a huge fan of DAO and couldn't wait for this to come out.... but... I have to say I'm disappointed in the demo. I don't know if it's fair to judge the game on the demo, since it might have been stripped down to just give us a taste. For now though, it's all I can go on.

It felt more like a bad JRPG to me... I didn't seem to have any real control over what was occuring. Although I could say things in a different way, it always had the same general meaning and always got basically the same response. More specifically, I couldn't approve or disapprove of what was occuring around me, couldn't suggest or persuade for different actions to occur; I was just an observer and occasional commentator. It was surreal knowing something so restricting was taking place in the same fictional universe where I previously had so much control.

[AlekNovy]

A tip to people in this thread. You might want to check out gamespot for a 30 minute gameplay demo. I too was unimpressed and dissapointed after downloading the demo...



But then my spirits were back up when I watched the video walkthrough on gamespot. They were much further in the game, and it involved a lot cooler dialogue, travelling, and the combat was more strategic because there were more skills involved (already developed). There is more of a story and its a lot deeper/cooler.



I think the demo should have more realistically been called the "early-game combat demo"

[Tommy6860]

Pudgeinabowl wrote...

Just played through twice (male warrior 2h, female rogue dual),  PC version.

First impression...a giant wtf. And not a good one.

(snipped)

I agree with your post. I will point out that, as I mentioned before, that I think the fact that this game is barely more than a year after when DA:O was released, tells me it was rushed (they wanted to cash in on the Origins love while they could). In fact, if I can find it, I will post where an official BIoware rep here even stated they decided on DA2 when they saw how well Origins was selling, that they almost were surprised at how well it was doing. Games of high quality and huge scope (like most RPGs are in scope anyway) take a few years to develop, let alone a year. Had they just stuck with the same engine, graphics style and personality conversation system (where you guess how the other person is), they may have gotten more out it than this. I probably will buy it because of curiosity, but I am wary to say the least. This could eb the first time Bioware ever let me down.

[Hope3nder]

Whole internet is saying the exact same thing as I am about: Bioware, I am disappointed in you guys. From the looks of the demo, it is apparent that everything was designed for consoles in mind, NOT pc. The graphics are also a downgrade from the first one in comparison. I have played DA Origins like 10 times and would still play it over and over again because it is apparent that you guys really did put some work in it but this one seems to be a total let down, from main character voices to graphics. So...... it looks like it's going to be witcher 2 for me.



Once again you guys disappoint me.

[FrostyThundertrod]

PC version

1. Camra does not fallow chatare movments this meas that the chater movent does not corspond to camra angel so you charater can move in just about any direction unles you use the right mouse button to get your charater and cmra facing the same way. It feels like I am fighting the camra more then darkspawen.

2. Exsisive loading even with a high end PC the game often stops to load this is vary annying. I have 6gb of ram maby the game might use more then 2gig and get rid of the loading lag.



3. Dispite all the tiwiling jumping and dancing the charater do combat is very simple and lacking depth or tactics.



I will wate till the game is in the bargen bin to buy it. This demo shows that it is not a bad game but not a good one eather it is veray medocer

[TEWR]

Maleficent wrote...

wow dumbed down,button mashing mess,messed up dialogue and interesting story gone!!! wow just wow ,it's a slice and a very small slice of the pie at that and what a nice pie it is.Lets's see all those comments reversed when the full experience is in hand:)Dragon Age lives on it just might be a case in future of losing a few fans ,you can't please everybody:)

interesting story gone? People don't even know anything storywise beyond what Bioware has already shown and/or told us! How can people say there is no story, when they themselves know nothing new regarding it?

[Theagg]

JohnEpler wrote...

Again, folks. Breast size discussion. Cut it out.

Hmm, is not a discussion about why this game sadly slavishly continues the trend of hypersexualising female characters ( by way of giving them large breast sizes ) in games ( in a way that male characters are not hypersexualised ) a valid discussion to have ?

That discussion is not sexist surely ?

And that the only spokespersons we have seen or heard for the game ( designers, writers etc ) are men ? Perhaps that hints at why games still can't break that particular sexist design cycle.

[Ellestor]

AlekNovy wrote...

I think the demo should have more realistically been called the "early-game combat demo"

True enough. Although I found the demo reassuring in regards to the combat, the things I wanted to test most happened to be the things that turned out to be locked, namely character creation.

[Arandomindividual]

Isn't the new Tombraider girl going to have a breast reduction as part of the re-imagining of the IP?

[DPB]

Theagg wrote...

And that the only spokespersons we have seen or heard for the game ( designers, writers etc ) are men ? Perhaps that hints at why games still can't break that particular sexist design cycle.

Half of the writing team are female, actually.

[Perjorative]

Ellestor wrote...

AlekNovy wrote...

I think the demo should have more realistically been called the "early-game combat demo"

True enough. Although I found the demo reassuring in regards to the combat, the things I wanted to test most happened to be the things that turned out to be locked, namely character creation.

Both of these: indeed.  Not being able to try out the character creation and being thrown into combat as a first impression with nary a bit of preceding dialogue contributed to my initial horrified impression of the game.  I'm sure it's not representative of the final product, however.

At least, I really, *really* hope it's not.

Modifié par Perjorative, 23 février 2011 - 11:12 .

[Erlec]

Played the pc demo and cannot say anything for certain on how this will result in the full game.

I mean I didn't really see the epic scale of dragon age until I heard Leliana's song in the camp.

Since this was mostly a introduction as well as showing off combat I'll say this:



Really liked the rogue's hand to hand combat, big improvement. Esp liked the stun jar ability where you kick the jar towards the enemy group. The abilites have gotten a bit clearer to see what they do but I do not see a pursuade ability which I as a player like too much to let go. The story has some intresting aspects from what I can tell, the apostate-chantry conflict will be very intresting see. And seeing that Flemeth ensures that she gets her way is always entertaining.

I still however do not see the grand scale of things which the first dragon age had. Hopefully it will be sucessful.



P.S. More dwarf love!

[CptDookie]

I loved the demo and all the changes made from Origins to DA2!



The faster paced combat complete with doing away with the goofy fatality deathblows,the new art style and even the new chat wheel are all things i feel are a step in the right direction.



I cant wait till i can play the full retail version.

[TEWR]

people also need to realize that the demo was probably made WAY before the finalized version of the game

[destroyer 654]

Hope3nder wrote...

Whole internet is saying the exact same thing as I am about: Bioware, I am disappointed in you guys. From the looks of the demo, it is apparent that everything was designed for consoles in mind, NOT pc. The graphics are also a downgrade from the first one in comparison. I have played DA Origins like 10 times and would still play it over and over again because it is apparent that you guys really did put some work in it but this one seems to be a total let down, from main character voices to graphics. So...... it looks like it's going to be witcher 2 for me.

Once again you guys disappoint me.

Umm well actually not really. Most bioware fans like this game, go on the polls and see which is winning, the i love DA2 option or i hate DA2. Its just that the people who like DA2 are either stunned by the idiocie of the haters or are just happy about the game and are moving on. The haters however are just whining on this forum because they have nothing better to do. Im seriously starting to get angry. Its one thing to not like the demo but its another thing to hate on it while you are incorrect and say oh im no longer your fan bioware. I mean seriously, im getting angry at all theese haters. 

[AlekNovy]

Theagg wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

Again, folks. Breast size discussion. Cut it out.

Hmm, is not a discussion about why this game sadly slavishly continues the trend of hypersexualising female characters ( by way of giving them large breast sizes ) in games ( in a way that male characters are not hypersexualised ) a valid discussion to have ?

That discussion is not sexist surely ?

And that the only spokespersons we have seen or heard for the game ( designers, writers etc ) are men ? Perhaps that hints at why games still can't break that particular sexist design cycle.

You know, when you start complaining about 100% of the men in fantasy-games comic-land having six-packs year-round and expected to have 25inch biceps (and increasing every year), then you have a right to complain. Every year more and more teenagers are victims of the adonis complex (kids overdosing on drugs trying to get the comic look, thinking it attracts women, starving themselves to get sixpacks etc). So don't give me any of that "sexism" bs. People are not buying that stuff anymore.

The whole attacking companies with PC-made-up charges is just getting old. Leave bioware alone.

(Epler: this is my last post on the subject, apologies to epler again. I couldn't let this provocation slide.).

Modifié par AlekNovy, 23 février 2011 - 11:17 .