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[Tekman9]

davez82 wrote...


When 20 darkspawn are rushing your character and the game is made more toward buttton mashing action, im sorry but point and click are not a valid game mechanic in this situation, especially with animation etc.. moving fast paced. Either make a good point and click game or make a good button mashing game, but dont make a button mashing game and force pc players to use a mouse for it.

I dont really get what youre saying.  Have you ever heard of a little game called Diablo?  I hope I can turn auto attack on, on the consoles tho.  

[flexxdk]

Lacan2 wrote...

Whacka wrote...


2) This:

Carver's face won't be like that in the official game, right? Right? RIGHT?!  RIIIIIIIIIGHT?!?!

LOL wtf is that?! Fallout zombie Carver???

I guess. 

On the complete image, however, Carver looked like he was cowering a bit. Or being pushed against a wall by a big fat guy you'd stand next to in a very tight hallway. 

Modifié par Whacka, 24 février 2011 - 06:38 .

[thebigbenman]

i really like the demo, that's my feedback. the move away from the usual bioware "i'm having visions and need to visit around 4 places" formula (ok all my favorite games use that so i'm not complaining) to the very slick evolving narrative here opens up a wealth of new story telling options.



also, combat feels more natural and the various skill trees are well thought out.

[SnowHeart1]

Whacka wrote...

2) This:

Carver's face won't be like that in the official game, right? Right? RIGHT?!  RIIIIIIIIIGHT?!?!

Dude... you haven't heard? That's what ghouls look like under the new art style. That's Carver-ghoul! 

Too funny. I love graphics corruption like that (at least as screenshots... not while I'm actually playing).

[88mphSlayer]

Aesieru wrote...

Lol, some bad luck there.

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I don't know why ANYONE liked "The Witcher", as it was a horribly buggy game that crashed over 50 times, was tedious, was pretty poorly balanced, and in my opinion had an atrocious story and all around SUCKED.

And I've only said things like that about a very very small quantity of games.

i loved the witcher, Chapter 1 was tedious but after that i thought the game was fantastic, i played the Enhanced Edition so i dunno if i'm just lucky but the game only ever crashed on me maybe 3 times which surprised me as the first 30-40 hours was crash free, i thought there were things in the witcher that would've spruced up DAO and made it feel less grind-heavy but oh well

[Lacan2]

Aesieru wrote...

Wivvix wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

I don't know why ANYONE liked "The Witcher", as it was a horribly buggy game that crashed over 50 times, was tedious, was pretty poorly balanced, and in my opinion had an atrocious story and all around SUCKED.

And I've only said things like that about a very very small quantity of games.

If that's your opinion of an RPGOTY, then you mustn't have played very widely to only have that opinion of a "very very small quantity of games".

I assure you, I've played nearly every RPG, and every game.

The point is that "The Witcher" was SOOOOOO buggy, that I literally crashed to desktop over 50 times, and each time could play for exactly an hour and a half before I crashed again... the difficulty was also atrocious.

I am shocked and awed by the fact it achieved GOTY... as it was BLAND.

No technical issues with it myself. I thought the technical aspects were done beautifully. Bioware could learn something from Witcher's character models and terrain textures/backgrounds.

[Tekman9]

Aesieru wrote...

Wivvix wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

I don't know why ANYONE liked "The Witcher", as it was a horribly buggy game that crashed over 50 times, was tedious, was pretty poorly balanced, and in my opinion had an atrocious story and all around SUCKED.

And I've only said things like that about a very very small quantity of games.

If that's your opinion of an RPGOTY, then you mustn't have played very widely to only have that opinion of a "very very small quantity of games".

I assure you, I've played nearly every RPG, and every game.

The point is that "The Witcher" was SOOOOOO buggy, that I literally crashed to desktop over 50 times, and each time could play for exactly an hour and a half before I crashed again... the difficulty was also atrocious.

I am shocked and awed by the fact it achieved GOTY... as it was BLAND.

Well yeah it was buggy because it was released by a little company.  It was quite ambitious, I really liked it.  The inventory system was bad and it did have some crashing problems.  They like completely upgraded the game and released it for free tho.  Ive played a ton of RGPs and I would definitely say The Witcher deserved a GOTY...  I think Elder Scrolls is totally overrated on the otherhand.

[AlexRD]

I really enjoyed playing the demo, the characters, the cutscenes, the sountrack,
the new graphical options (DOF, SSAO) and gameplay ones (Hide Helmet).

However, there were some things that really need working.

It may be that i played the first one and i didn't adapt to the change,
but i really preferred the User Interface from Dragon Age 1. It was much more simple, less confusing.
The icons in Dragon Age 1 were better in my opinion, these new icons all have the
same color and form (triangle, square), making it very confusing.
Also the life bars are uglier.

I really liked what you were aiming at with the Combat System, the goal however was not reached.
It Actually turned it into JRPG. Realism isn't needed to make the game fun, but it feels better when its not absurd.
The character attacks too fast, and doesn't have a delay in between strikes. Its all too cut, not smooth.

And
the way the game kind of pauses when the there is a hit is kind of
irritating. Also, because the animations are so cut and quick, its
really hard to target enemies,
and if you were aiming to make the combat more fluid, pausing to target isn't really fluid, is it?

The
animations should be a little bit slower, and smoother. It looks like
there are only 5 frames in between hitting, instead of 20 and 30.

Right now its something like: Preparing, Strike.
It should be                          : Preparing, Striking, Striking, Strike.

Here are some Examples:
http://img713.images...amplewrong.gif/
http://img594.images...ampleright.gif/


I hope you understood what i meant.

And also don't get me wrong, i love the game.
It is my favorite game so far, and that's why i am criticizing.

[flexxdk]

SnowHeart1 wrote...

Whacka wrote...

2) This:

Carver's face won't be like that in the official game, right? Right? RIGHT?!  RIIIIIIIIIGHT?!?!

Dude... you haven't heard? That's what ghouls look like under the new art style. That's Carver-ghoul! 

Too funny. I love graphics corruption like that (at least as screenshots... not while I'm actually playing).

The complete pose of Carver at that moment explained a bit how his face ended up like that...

It was as if he was standing next to a big fat guy in a small hallway, where Carver's being pushed against the wall. What you can see on the picture are the results because of that.

Poor Carver. 

And it's more, like, complete model corruption instead of being limited to graphics corruption.

Modifié par Whacka, 24 février 2011 - 06:43 .

[Garak2]

People compare DA2 to Elder Scrolls and The Witcher because they are in the same genre, RPG.....to be more exact WRPG.

[Restroom]

I'm not so impressed. This game has absolutely nothing to do with Origins. I hope Bioware knows what they're doing.

[Zeppeli]

Aesieru wrote...

Lol, some bad luck there.

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I don't know why ANYONE liked "The Witcher", as it was a horribly buggy game that crashed over 50 times, was tedious, was pretty poorly balanced, and in my opinion had an atrocious story and all around SUCKED.

And I've only said things like that about a very very small quantity of games.

Probably you did not play any rpg in your life...

[snfonseka]

What's with the sound? It is hard to what the characters are saying during cutscreens.

[Aesieru]

Elder Scrolls is a Third Person RPG and is meant for very very very long and drawn out playthroughs.



Witcher is a Top Down RPG with variations but that is meant for mid-mild.



Dragon Age is also a Diagonal Top Down RPG that is pretty short in the formula of RPG's.

[ehcaba]

Ok Page 200. This will never be read. But...

Only draw backs I saw was the continues-to-be-broken tactics. If there were more than one scourge on the field Rogue Hawke immediately evaded leaving the ability on cool down for the rest of the fight. Mage Hawke would launch a fireball at the starting location of the mobs and of course it just hits dead air. Tactics  will be disabled on all my play throughs.

The great:

The tutorial is perfectly integrated into the story. It took me several minutes to realize it was a tutorial. It is not something to get through so you can get on with the game, it is an ejoyable part of the game. This is a perpetual issue with RPGs and this is the first one to get it right.

The Legend section really gave a good view of how all the abilites tie together. and, again, its part of the story.

Telling Aveline she has to kill her love was perfect. A heart breaking moment even if you play the hard a**.

Is there a listing for what all the dialogue icons mean? Most are obvious but a few could mean a few things.

[Regan Cousland]

I usually play as a warrior in fantasy games. Magic users typically wear bland, nerdy outfits, and somehow constantly having to backtrack to stay out of sword range whilst peppering your foes with fireballs doesn't feel very heroic to me.

So the mage class in the Dragon Age 2 demo blew me away! The way they spin their staves and use them to beat foes senseless at close quarters is incredibly easy on the eye. I'd pretty much decided that I'd make my first playthrough as a bad-ass mage warrior with lots of flashy, bone-crunching, skin-melting offensive powers!

But then -- doh! -- I realized that if I play as a mage, male or female, my (hot) little sister Bethany is going to die! Dammit, Bioware! What're you playing at? Luckily the rogue has also been excellently revamped, providing another cool alternative to the warrior class, but it wasn't my first choice! Grrr.

Modifié par Regan Cousland, 24 février 2011 - 06:48 .

[Zeppeli]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

Wivvix wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

I don't know why ANYONE liked "The Witcher", as it was a horribly buggy game that crashed over 50 times, was tedious, was pretty poorly balanced, and in my opinion had an atrocious story and all around SUCKED.

And I've only said things like that about a very very small quantity of games.

If that's your opinion of an RPGOTY, then you mustn't have played very widely to only have that opinion of a "very very small quantity of games".

Dude, freaking DAGGERFALL won RPGOTY.  DAGGERFALL.

DAGGERFALL.

There usually aren't that many RPGs out in a year to choose from, and JRPG's don't seem to get counted.


One last time:  DAGGER-FREAKING-FALL.

Are you sure you know what is an RPG?? Daggerfall was one of the best RPG ever, maybe Oblivion was too streamlined...

[Aesieru]

Zeppeli wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Lol, some bad luck there.

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I don't know why ANYONE liked "The Witcher", as it was a horribly buggy game that crashed over 50 times, was tedious, was pretty poorly balanced, and in my opinion had an atrocious story and all around SUCKED.

And I've only said things like that about a very very small quantity of games.

Probably you did not play any rpg in your life...

Or I've played every RPG made in my life...

Also I do have DA - 1, Awakening, and ME2 registered as you can see, so that statement makes no sense.

I had a horrible experience with "The Witcher" and will not ever play it again and hate the entirety of it.

[WaCk0]

Aesieru wrote...

Lol, some bad luck there.

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I don't know why ANYONE liked "The Witcher", as it was a horribly buggy game that crashed over 50 times, was tedious, was pretty poorly balanced, and in my opinion had an atrocious story and all around SUCKED.

And I've only said things like that about a very very small quantity of games.

I agree 100%. Bought "The Witcher - Enhanced version" last year on Steam, for $9.99 I think, because I saw every RPG community saying that it was an amazing game etc.
Man, what a boring game. Slow, buggy, not optimized, no variety at all. Played the until 3rd chapter and uninstalled.
Now every Witcher 2 video, I see a beautiful game, but poor performance and the same boring gameplay.

Modifié par WaCk0, 24 février 2011 - 06:47 .

[james1976]

Tekman9 wrote...

davez82 wrote...


When 20 darkspawn are rushing your character and the game is made more toward buttton mashing action, im sorry but point and click are not a valid game mechanic in this situation, especially with animation etc.. moving fast paced. Either make a good point and click game or make a good button mashing game, but dont make a button mashing game and force pc players to use a mouse for it.

I dont really get what youre saying.  Have you ever heard of a little game called Diablo?  I hope I can turn auto attack on, on the consoles tho.  

And unlike Diablo you can pause and direct the action while you play.  I am a PC gamer exclusively and use nothing but a keyboard and mouse and find no reason to dislike the combat system in DA2.  The demo itself was so easy it was sad.  So I look forward to cranking up the difficulty later.

If anything was annoying it was just the load times during and right before cutscenes. 

Modifié par james1976, 24 février 2011 - 06:49 .

[88mphSlayer]

Garak2 wrote...

People compare DA2 to Elder Scrolls and The Witcher because they are in the same genre, RPG.....to be more exact WRPG.

well... dark fantasy rpg, you're not going to compare DA2/Skyrim/Witcher with MassEffect/DeusEx/etc.

personally i don't care to compare RPG's and say one is better than the other outright, each has its own experience to enjoy, there are little things that good games can improve upon or outright steal from other games but i don't like outright panning a game just because it's different - the game has to fail on its own merits for me to outright hate it

[Aesieru]

I'll probably try Witcher 2, WaCk0, and I'm sure I just had a horrible experience with it, but there's nothing that can be done to make me go through Witcher 1 again.



That said, I did finish "The Witcher".

[Zeppeli]

Aesieru wrote...

Zeppeli wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Lol, some bad luck there.

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I don't know why ANYONE liked "The Witcher", as it was a horribly buggy game that crashed over 50 times, was tedious, was pretty poorly balanced, and in my opinion had an atrocious story and all around SUCKED.

And I've only said things like that about a very very small quantity of games.

Probably you did not play any rpg in your life...

Or I've played every RPG made in my life...

Also I do have DA - 1, Awakening, and ME2 registered as you can see, so that statement makes no sense.

I had a horrible experience with "The Witcher" and will not ever play it again and hate the entirety of it.

If you call ME2 rpg, than your statement is more clear to me than anything...

[WaCk0]

Aesieru wrote...

I'll probably try Witcher 2, WaCk0, and I'm sure I just had a horrible experience with it, but there's nothing that can be done to make me go through Witcher 1 again.

That said, I did finish "The Witcher".

Good look with that 

I would try but my old PC will not handle this game. Maybe I'll try the demo, lets see.

Zeppeli wrote...
If you call ME2 rpg, than your statement is more clear to me than anything...[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

I'm old skool (western) RPG player. Played almost everything and I must say I dont really liked that game. Everything looked bland, generic. 
Oh, the only thing I liked was the poker dice minigame LOL

BTW, I prefer ME1 over ME2 anyday, Still playing BGII and D2. Am I cool? 

Modifié par WaCk0, 24 février 2011 - 06:58 .

[Lacan2]

james1976 wrote...

Tekman9 wrote...

davez82 wrote...


When 20 darkspawn are rushing your character and the game is made more toward buttton mashing action, im sorry but point and click are not a valid game mechanic in this situation, especially with animation etc.. moving fast paced. Either make a good point and click game or make a good button mashing game, but dont make a button mashing game and force pc players to use a mouse for it.

I dont really get what youre saying.  Have you ever heard of a little game called Diablo?  I hope I can turn auto attack on, on the consoles tho.  

And unlike Diablo you can pause and direct the action while you play.  I am a PC gamer exclusively and use nothing but a keyboard and mouse and find no reason to dislike the combat system in DA2.  The demo itself was so easy it was sad.  So I look forward to cranking up the difficulty later.

If anything was annoying it was just the load times during and right before cutscenes. 

Same here. While downloading the game I read these boards and was anticipating some horrible bugfest on PC. It runs beautifully on PC. Targeting was a breeze and the combat speed is in no way anti-PC.