k so i am SO EXCITED! i loved it.
i have a question though,
why are they saying that dx11 isnt supported when it is clearly available?
when playing the game on dx9 it always crashed. playing on dx11 made it perfect, fluent, beautiful and crash-proof.
or am i missing something?
Dragon Age 2 Demo feedback thread
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#552
Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:18
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This demo reminded me a lot of Jade Empire, and thankfully, I liked Jade Empire 
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:18
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Anarya wrote...
You know, honestly, right now I'm pretty disappointed in this demo, and that says a lot coming from me, who probably gets lumped in with the "BDF" most of the time.
Right on launch I got the missing d3dx9_43.dll error message, which I found the workaround for, but now I crash every time I try to get past the customization screen (and I'm not trying to run it in DX11).
Aside from that, the loading during cutscenes is choppy and obtrusive and the lipsynching is off in some of the cutscenes.
And I mean, I know it's a demo, but this really has me questioning my choice of PC as the platform for my preorder. I prefer to play this sort of game on PC but if it's going to be a bugfest I just don't know.
I want to love this game. Help me out here, guys.
(yes I do have a thread in the tech support forum. I'm waiting on a reply)
Try updating your directX
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:18
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inclemency wrote...
I'm sorry, I think the people look cartoon-like in this demo. I hope it's better in the real PC version.
It's a demo, not a beta. What you see in the demo is the final product. Sadly.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:18
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Played as a warrior on PC.
The good:
- Much much better combat that DA:Origins' awful MMO rip-off combat.
- Moving away from being an RPG. In fact, DA2 is not an RPG. As such, I can enjoy it as an action game with dialogue.
- Good horizon/sky art.
The bad:
- Combat still isn't as far away from MMO-style combat as I'd like it to be.
- Horrible environment art (except the horizon/sky)
Overall, I am cautiously optimistic.
The good:
- Much much better combat that DA:Origins' awful MMO rip-off combat.
- Moving away from being an RPG. In fact, DA2 is not an RPG. As such, I can enjoy it as an action game with dialogue.
- Good horizon/sky art.
The bad:
- Combat still isn't as far away from MMO-style combat as I'd like it to be.
- Horrible environment art (except the horizon/sky)
Overall, I am cautiously optimistic.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:18
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Bhav wrote...
In badurs gate you usually got killed within the first 20 minutes, either by Silke, or the mage assasin at the Friendly Arm inn.
So I dont really care, I dont need any part of my games to be so stupidly easy that a 3 year old could play them.
But you werent comparing it to Baldur's Gate, and you seem to have liked Origins, which, like I said, was also really easy for the first hour or so. I just find it odd that you are ragging on its difficulty on normal when Origins was also like this.
Plus, you don't know if the game is also easy in the beginning on hard or nightmare settings. You might also have a good chance of dieing in the first 20 minutes on those difficulty settings. If that is the deal breaker for you, just wait and see what other players you trust are saying about those difficulty settings before you write off a game's difficulty and tactical complexity based on playing the first hour of the game on normal difficulty
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:19
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Anarya wrote...
You know, honestly, right now I'm pretty disappointed in this demo, and that says a lot coming from me, who probably gets lumped in with the "BDF" most of the time.
Right on launch I got the missing d3dx9_43.dll error message, which I found the workaround for, but now I crash every time I try to get past the customization screen (and I'm not trying to run it in DX11).
Aside from that, the loading during cutscenes is choppy and obtrusive and the lipsynching is off in some of the cutscenes.
And I mean, I know it's a demo, but this really has me questioning my choice of PC as the platform for my preorder. I prefer to play this sort of game on PC but if it's going to be a bugfest I just don't know.
I want to love this game. Help me out here, guys.
(yes I do have a thread in the tech support forum. I'm waiting on a reply)
Yeah, the quality of the demo is...eh. I'm loving the game itself, but the fact that I have to play at Medium graphics, that I had to download a separate file, that it keeps telling me I don't have the disc in for some reason is all very disheartening, and does make me doubt whether it will function correctly on my computer.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:19
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Anarya wrote...
Aside from that, the loading during cutscenes is choppy and obtrusive and the lipsynching is off in some of the cutscenes.
Where are these loading screens inbetween cutscenes? I barely noticed them if there are any.. Unless you mean from Wilds > Kirkwall, because that seemed to me like the Demo hopping zones to show you.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:19
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Val Seleznyov wrote...
Zeppeli wrote...
Bhav wrote...
Zeppeli wrote...
The worst RPG ever....
It's like another game, my PC is crying out for the mess they made....
Thanks Bioware, now i's sure what i will buy next: The Witcher 2....
Someone else here has a working brain
The Witcher 2 = Yay for us. DA2 = Yay for the stupids.
It's simple i like RPG: so Dragon Age 2 is far away from my taste..... That's not an RPG, no way i can call it so, no way someone can call Mass Effect 2 an rpg... These games are action-adventures....
Apparently it's not that simple; you don't seem to be aware of the all-encompasing nature of the designation "RPG". Mass Effect 2 is an action RPG.
And what part of Mass Effect 2 was RPG? The dialogues? I call it an action adventure, were the action is a Gears of war style game with dialogues and cutscenes... I don't remember any RPG element in it....
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:19
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Sontifx wrote...
Anarya wrote...
You know, honestly, right now I'm pretty disappointed in this demo, and that says a lot coming from me, who probably gets lumped in with the "BDF" most of the time.
Right on launch I got the missing d3dx9_43.dll error message, which I found the workaround for, but now I crash every time I try to get past the customization screen (and I'm not trying to run it in DX11).
Aside from that, the loading during cutscenes is choppy and obtrusive and the lipsynching is off in some of the cutscenes.
And I mean, I know it's a demo, but this really has me questioning my choice of PC as the platform for my preorder. I prefer to play this sort of game on PC but if it's going to be a bugfest I just don't know.
I want to love this game. Help me out here, guys.
(yes I do have a thread in the tech support forum. I'm waiting on a reply)
Try updating your directX
I'm pretty sure that's what I did to get the .dll error to go away.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:19
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quote]Piecake wrote...
[quote]Bhav wrote...
In badurs gate you usually got killed within the first 20 minutes, either by Silke, or the mage assasin at the Friendly Arm inn.
So I dont really care, I dont need any part of my games to be so stupidly easy that a 3 year old could play them.
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But you werent comparing it to Baldur's Gate, and you seem to have liked Origins, which, like I said, was also really easy for the first hour or so. I just find it odd that you are ragging on its difficulty on normal when Origins was also like this.
Plus, you don't know if the game is also easy in the beginning on hard or nightmare settings. You might also have a good chance of dieing in the first 20 minutes on those difficulty settings. If that is the deal breaker for you, just wait and see what other players you trust are saying about those difficulty settings before you write off a game's difficulty and tactical complexity based on playing the first hour of the game on normal difficulty
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I dont see how this game can have any tactical depth without a top down camera view. Playing a mage in the demo is soooo much more dumbed down than playing a mage in the original DAO was. It doesnt compare at all to the original, it plays a lot worse, and looks a lot worse
[quote]Bhav wrote...
In badurs gate you usually got killed within the first 20 minutes, either by Silke, or the mage assasin at the Friendly Arm inn.
So I dont really care, I dont need any part of my games to be so stupidly easy that a 3 year old could play them.
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But you werent comparing it to Baldur's Gate, and you seem to have liked Origins, which, like I said, was also really easy for the first hour or so. I just find it odd that you are ragging on its difficulty on normal when Origins was also like this.
Plus, you don't know if the game is also easy in the beginning on hard or nightmare settings. You might also have a good chance of dieing in the first 20 minutes on those difficulty settings. If that is the deal breaker for you, just wait and see what other players you trust are saying about those difficulty settings before you write off a game's difficulty and tactical complexity based on playing the first hour of the game on normal difficulty
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I dont see how this game can have any tactical depth without a top down camera view. Playing a mage in the demo is soooo much more dumbed down than playing a mage in the original DAO was. It doesnt compare at all to the original, it plays a lot worse, and looks a lot worse
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:21
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frostserpant wrote...
inclemency wrote...
I'm sorry, I think the people look cartoon-like in this demo. I hope it's better in the real PC version.
It's a demo, not a beta. What you see in the demo is the final product. Sadly.
Could you have let me hold on to my hope for at least a few minutes? Hopefully skin textures will be a bit better than this.
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ME2 = guns and conversation
DA2 = fantasy weapons and conversation
Not a diss to either game but they're action games with light rpg elements.
DA2 = fantasy weapons and conversation
Not a diss to either game but they're action games with light rpg elements.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:21
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Zyphone wrote...
Anarya wrote...
Aside from that, the loading during cutscenes is choppy and obtrusive and the lipsynching is off in some of the cutscenes.
Where are these loading screens inbetween cutscenes? I barely noticed them if there are any.. Unless you mean from Wilds > Kirkwall, because that seemed to me like the Demo hopping zones to show you.
I haven't even gotten past the customization screen so no, that's not what I mean. There are load times at the start of every cutscene and after every dialogue choice for me and it's pretty lame.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:21
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My feedback. Not posting any aesthetic quibbles I may have. These are all technical. I play on a PC at the highest settings at 1920 x 1200 resolution on a 28 inch monitor.
UI
- There seems to be some disconnect in the UI between whether or not your cursor is hovering over a UI element.
- That disconnect causes all sorts of grief in the Tactics window where you routinely can't see what you're actually clicking. This involves not getting a highlight on anything on the screen, clicking, and instead of "Self", you may have hit "Enemy" instead. There is some method to this madness however, in that the chances of the UI messing up decrease if you pretend you're on a console and move your mouse through the menu options accordingly.
- The other victim of this issue is the character portraits when you are clicking between them to raise Attributes, etc. Several times I ended up back at the game screen as I clicked on a character's portrait. Turns out the UI doesn't recognize your cursor is over the character portrait all the time. This happens most often if your cursor was moving on to a specific character portrait from the left/upper left.
Graphics
- I'm generally not a graphics snob, but one issue stands out. In DA:O, the cutscenes were very grain. You know, your nightmares, the Origin prologues, the cutscenes to Denerim where Logain interacted with the nobles as you adventured, etc, etc. Well, the cutscenes in the demo are even grainier.
Loading Times
- No real issue with the loading times as they were half a second or less usually. I just found it a bit strange how I'd get a few half second "Loading" messages in the middle of a cutscene. It almost felt like I was streaming the game or something.
I imagine those with less....powerful computers might have actual long loading times though, and that would seem awfully immersion breaking to have them occur in the middle of a cutscene. I honestly have never seen cutscenes designed like this before.
Thoughts
- I enjoyed the combat. Normal is far too easy, but I can see on harder difficulties that it'll still be tactical based. Just, for those who don't want to do tactics, they can mash buttons on their controller and have fun too.
- Thanks for releasing the demo! Enjoyed it, even if playing all the classes/dialogue options hardly took an hour.
UI
- There seems to be some disconnect in the UI between whether or not your cursor is hovering over a UI element.
- That disconnect causes all sorts of grief in the Tactics window where you routinely can't see what you're actually clicking. This involves not getting a highlight on anything on the screen, clicking, and instead of "Self", you may have hit "Enemy" instead. There is some method to this madness however, in that the chances of the UI messing up decrease if you pretend you're on a console and move your mouse through the menu options accordingly.
- The other victim of this issue is the character portraits when you are clicking between them to raise Attributes, etc. Several times I ended up back at the game screen as I clicked on a character's portrait. Turns out the UI doesn't recognize your cursor is over the character portrait all the time. This happens most often if your cursor was moving on to a specific character portrait from the left/upper left.
Graphics
- I'm generally not a graphics snob, but one issue stands out. In DA:O, the cutscenes were very grain. You know, your nightmares, the Origin prologues, the cutscenes to Denerim where Logain interacted with the nobles as you adventured, etc, etc. Well, the cutscenes in the demo are even grainier.
Loading Times
- No real issue with the loading times as they were half a second or less usually. I just found it a bit strange how I'd get a few half second "Loading" messages in the middle of a cutscene. It almost felt like I was streaming the game or something.
I imagine those with less....powerful computers might have actual long loading times though, and that would seem awfully immersion breaking to have them occur in the middle of a cutscene. I honestly have never seen cutscenes designed like this before. Thoughts
- I enjoyed the combat. Normal is far too easy, but I can see on harder difficulties that it'll still be tactical based. Just, for those who don't want to do tactics, they can mash buttons on their controller and have fun too.
- Thanks for releasing the demo! Enjoyed it, even if playing all the classes/dialogue options hardly took an hour.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:22
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Inarborat wrote...
ME2 = guns and conversation
DA2 = fantasy weapons and conversation
Not a diss to either game but they're action games with light rpg elements.
100% true.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:22
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Zeppeli wrote...
Val Seleznyov wrote...
Zeppeli wrote...
Bhav wrote...
Zeppeli wrote...
The worst RPG ever....
It's like another game, my PC is crying out for the mess they made....
Thanks Bioware, now i's sure what i will buy next: The Witcher 2....
Someone else here has a working brain
The Witcher 2 = Yay for us. DA2 = Yay for the stupids.
It's simple i like RPG: so Dragon Age 2 is far away from my taste..... That's not an RPG, no way i can call it so, no way someone can call Mass Effect 2 an rpg... These games are action-adventures....
Apparently it's not that simple; you don't seem to be aware of the all-encompasing nature of the designation "RPG". Mass Effect 2 is an action RPG.
And what part of Mass Effect 2 was RPG? The dialogues? I call it an action adventure, were the action is a Gears of war style game with dialogues and cutscenes... I don't remember any RPG element in it....
Mass Effect was an RPG and with Mass Effect 2 they cut out a lot of the RPG elements but it was still an action RPG. Check out the squad tab.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:22
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Anarya wrote...
Zyphone wrote...
Anarya wrote...
Aside from that, the loading during cutscenes is choppy and obtrusive and the lipsynching is off in some of the cutscenes.
Where are these loading screens inbetween cutscenes? I barely noticed them if there are any.. Unless you mean from Wilds > Kirkwall, because that seemed to me like the Demo hopping zones to show you.
I haven't even gotten past the customization screen so no, that's not what I mean. There are load times at the start of every cutscene and after every dialogue choice for me and it's pretty lame.
Ah, strange, not happened to me. Your on PC too?
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:22
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Xbox 360 version
Thought it was amazing! Voice acting was fantastic, graphics were just as good as ME2 and I love the music.
Combat is fast but I like it that way. Played it 3 times now and I am hooked.
As long as that grainy video cutscene in the middle and end of the demo is not present in the final game(which people told me it wont be) I really have no complaints.
Can't wait till the final version hits in two weeks.
Thought it was amazing! Voice acting was fantastic, graphics were just as good as ME2 and I love the music.
Combat is fast but I like it that way. Played it 3 times now and I am hooked.
As long as that grainy video cutscene in the middle and end of the demo is not present in the final game(which people told me it wont be) I really have no complaints.
Can't wait till the final version hits in two weeks.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:23
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Graphics:
They aren't to bad, few stability issues with DX11 but the game looks decent, for a console/PC Game. Wish the graphics were pushed a bit with the PC Version but whatever can't complain to much.
Gameplay:
Feels very dumbed down. Like it was created to appeal to a broader audience. While not a bad decision it does feel very different to the original Dragon Age. I feel like a lot of what made DA good isz now gone. Flashy gameplay is great but trying to make the easier well more streamlined like for Mass Effect 2 kind of ruined what the game was about. Old School RPG madness.. is just gone. Tactics view really isn't needed anymore. Why wasn't the old formula used? I'm sure on higher difficulties things like tactics might come into play, but the large massive amounts of enemies make it feel like its more of an action oriented game. Bioware you are losing your touch here, why try to appeal to a broader audience but forsake your old school fans that loved your older games. Stop Streamlining your games so much it ruins them. I feel if there is a Dragon Age 3 it's just going to be a cinematic game like Mass Effect 2.
Combat:
Basically see above. It feels way to different to the original. It's to late to even consider changing anything but still I think it's going in a bad direction. It's to action oriented and less tactical.
Camera:
Its a bit different but it's something I can get used to. I've no complaints about it really.
Characters:
I hope the arbitrary character looks are just for the demo, if I am forced to play a defaul short haired tomboy look I'll be overly sad. Customisation lost is a bad thing. I'm just assuminig this is a demo thing so I'll leave it at that. As for voice acting, it's great.. but I really prefer no voices for Main character.. it good for immersion, but voice acting is fine to. At least the character doesn't sound butch (Female) like in Mass Effect. Good choice on the VC.
They aren't to bad, few stability issues with DX11 but the game looks decent, for a console/PC Game. Wish the graphics were pushed a bit with the PC Version but whatever can't complain to much.
Gameplay:
Feels very dumbed down. Like it was created to appeal to a broader audience. While not a bad decision it does feel very different to the original Dragon Age. I feel like a lot of what made DA good isz now gone. Flashy gameplay is great but trying to make the easier well more streamlined like for Mass Effect 2 kind of ruined what the game was about. Old School RPG madness.. is just gone. Tactics view really isn't needed anymore. Why wasn't the old formula used? I'm sure on higher difficulties things like tactics might come into play, but the large massive amounts of enemies make it feel like its more of an action oriented game. Bioware you are losing your touch here, why try to appeal to a broader audience but forsake your old school fans that loved your older games. Stop Streamlining your games so much it ruins them. I feel if there is a Dragon Age 3 it's just going to be a cinematic game like Mass Effect 2.
Combat:
Basically see above. It feels way to different to the original. It's to late to even consider changing anything but still I think it's going in a bad direction. It's to action oriented and less tactical.
Camera:
Its a bit different but it's something I can get used to. I've no complaints about it really.
Characters:
I hope the arbitrary character looks are just for the demo, if I am forced to play a defaul short haired tomboy look I'll be overly sad. Customisation lost is a bad thing. I'm just assuminig this is a demo thing so I'll leave it at that. As for voice acting, it's great.. but I really prefer no voices for Main character.. it good for immersion, but voice acting is fine to. At least the character doesn't sound butch (Female) like in Mass Effect. Good choice on the VC.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:23
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Just played this demo on PC. First of all, I'm a Bioware fan (better I WAS), I have adored BG, Kotor and the first DA...and now I've only a question for you, Bioware...
WHAT THE ****ING HELL IS THAT???
Don't believe that, this is the worst demo of the decade, the graphics is horrible, the interface is simple aberrant and landscape is the ugliest ever seen...where is Dragon Age? This isn't Dragon Age.
Just cancelled my preorder, thx very much for this ****, and thx EA for that. Bioware, listen to me, if you fail also with Mass Effect 3....damn, I have no words for that, simple ****
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Just played this demo on PC. First of all, I'm a Bioware fan (better I WAS), I have adored BG, Kotor and the first DA...and now I've only a question for you, Bioware...
WHAT THE ****ING HELL IS THAT???
Don't believe that, this is the worst demo of the decade, the graphics is horrible, the interface is simple aberrant and landscape is the ugliest ever seen...where is Dragon Age? This isn't Dragon Age.
Just cancelled my preorder, thx very much for this ****, and thx EA for that. Bioware, listen to me, if you fail also with Mass Effect 3....damn, I have no words for that, simple ****
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:23
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Bhav wrote...
Yea, thats why that game still has such a large dedicated fan base today, is regarded as the best RPG ever made, and was the best game bioware ever made.
The tainted iron idea was fine. All you had to do was use magical weapons instead which were easilly available.
Also trying to even imply that Baldurs Gate was in any way worse than DA2 just shows how completely clueless you are about RPgs, its no wonder why you would like DA2 so much.
What? No. No, it isn't and I am in no way alone. There is at least it's sequel, Planescape: Torment and the first two Fallout games that most would rank higher above the first Baldur's Gate. Then, I'd throw in Morrowind and Deus Ex (FPS RPG, but whatever it's a moot point). For what it's worth, I regard (edit) KOTOR as Bioware's best so far.
It's an old game for people who refuse to move on into the present. I used to be like that, and shyed away from anything that wasn't Forgotten Realms. But then I pulled my head out of my arse and realised that a grainy isometric view with a laboured interface isn't the bes thing since sliced bread, especially in 2011.
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:23
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inclemency wrote...
frostserpant wrote...
inclemency wrote...
I'm sorry, I think the people look cartoon-like in this demo. I hope it's better in the real PC version.
It's a demo, not a beta. What you see in the demo is the final product. Sadly.
Could you have let me hold on to my hope for at least a few minutes? Hopefully skin textures will be a bit better than this.
I feel your pain. All we can do is hope that bioware release a toolset so that we can get some mods.
#574
Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:23
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Wow!!! After reading some of these comments, I noticed people wanting this game to walk, talk, and fight on its own. Did some of you want a game, or did you people want an animated movie?
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Posté 22 février 2011 - 09:23
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Why does my download say and look incomplete? Do i just need to try downloading again and hope it works? >.<
