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#951
daPsy

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When I finished the demo, I had to look whether I was playing on my PC or on my PS3, because it surely felt like I wasn't playing the game I expected to see - clunky user interface combined with "3-way moral system" where you can either be Saint, Moron or a Jerk toppled with what appears to be "Diablo'esque" action rpg hamster madness.



What happened with "hey let's not have absolutes"?



I'm not going to repeat what others have posted before but judging on the demo, the game just went to "no buy", perhaps from the bargain bin someday but for full-or-half price, it's a no go. No value to be had.

#952
WarBaby2

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jamskinner wrote...
I have a suggestion.  Go and make your own RPG game.  Then it can be perfect.  Until then you will have to be satisfied with what others make.


i dunno what people expect these days. computer RPGs have never been full RPGs in the real sense of the words. at their best they have been very good storytelling games, especially since the use of voice acting.

... just saying. real roleplaying (playing out another character with you own personality) will never be possible on an semi interactive medium.

given, bioware is using the same story elements over and over in their games (be it a child of baal, jedi, warden or specter) , but it works...  for the most part.^^

Modifié par WarBaby2, 22 février 2011 - 11:05 .


#953
Sirsmirkalot

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My pro's and cons of the demo

+ The combat feels the same on the PC, can't comment for the consoles.
+ Even on medium settings, the graphics look decent and similar to DA:O set on high.
+ The armor design is better from what I've seen
+ Rogues have some new animations that look awesome, like kicking away the stun grenade.
+ Every menu is accessable from a different key on the keyboard. No oblivion here, thank god.

- The new darkspawn look terrible.
- The animations for 2 handed warriors look terrible and are unconvincing.
- The dialoguewheel looks and feels out of place, I really dislike it.
- Some of the dialogue is really awkward. Example : "You will not have him. They will not have you."
- The UI is extremely bland and feels more like something that belongs in a sci-fi game than a fantasy game.

In the end, not a bad game from where I stand. I love what you did for rogues, but I'll still stick to my regular 2-handed heavy armored warrior despite that I'm not too fond of the 2-handed animations. The charge ability is just too much fun.

Modifié par Sirsmirkalot, 22 février 2011 - 11:04 .


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I love the combat. I remember battles in Origins where I would just sit there and push "A" every now and then until the battle was over. I love being able to move around the battleground and the new animations.



The same problem I seem to have with every new game it seems now. . x.x I can't see the text it's so small I can't read anything not from the items to the start menu. Looks like I need to get a new tv to enjoy this game in the full content.

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Story seems to be good, I enjoyed some coments about stuff that happened in DA:O. Especially when Flemeth mention "some" Gray Wardens.



But I dont like combat at all, I miss tactical view and to be honest...combat was boring for me. And I dont like interface at all. Same with graphics and art style. I dont know, probably will buy it later because story is only think I really enjoyed in demo. Rest was meh...

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Sub 100K download speed (use P2P or Steam, for Heaven's sake, I got it through GamersHell in the end)



BSOD (the first one I've had after 18 months of W7).



Appalling textures, ridiculous 'skiddy' combat, three second pauses during cut scenes completely ruining any flow to the narrative.



Crash to desktop. Meh.



If the absolutely dreadful PR campaign, the DRM, the Steam debacle, hadn't have made up my mind, then the demo would have done anyway, Looks like this will be the first Bioware game in more than ten years I won't be buying.

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Babli wrote...

Story seems to be good, I enjoyed some coments about stuff that happened in DA:O. Especially when Flemeth mention "some" Gray Wardens.

But I dont like combat at all, I miss tactical view and to be honest...combat was boring for me. And I dont like interface at all. Same with graphics and art style. I dont know, probably will buy it later because story is only think I really enjoyed in demo. Rest was meh...

I snickered at every Morrigan reference.

#958
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I thought the demo was really good, and I am looking forward to the game a lot.I think the revamped combat worked really well, since I still felt like I was playing a Dragon Age game but had a lot more fun with it. Characters, skins and such look way better as well and I absolutely loved the changes made to the Mage regarding animations! Will definitely go Mage for my first character, although it will be a shame not having Bethany in the group, as I liked the character a lot from the short glimpses. Also, very good voice acting as far as what I heard.

I ran into some issues, first that I tended to get a lot of really short stuttering load times between conversations and in cut-scenes, and I wasn't running on max settings and I exceed the recommended ratings as far as system requirements go. I also had a somewhat strange problem of Flemeths body becoming partially transparent in some scenes, and one crash in the Character Generation screen on my first run.



I am going to try it again as F!Hawke soon anyway and tweak the settings for a bit to see what happens. Very glad to have gotten my hands on the demo!

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RedWulfi

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i think the loading in cut scenes is a PC problem because i play on xbox and i havent had that problem... i havent had any problems really.

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I enjoyed the demo, though it felt kind of choppy and had some minor bugs. I think these are mainly just because it's a demo. The one thing that really bugs me is not being able to save my sibling or rather that the sibling that's killed is determined by my class. I guess this is being done for balancing reasons, but it feels frustrating that in order to have the companion I'd like I have to choose a class I might not prefer.



If I had my druthers the choice would be made due to character interactions, so maybe if I said something that angered my sibling that could result in their death or something along those lines. That's not to say I hate the game now or anything I just wish this scenario was a little more flexible.



One of the bugs I noticed was in the tactics selection. Often the menu I was clicking on would bring me to a different selection also it seemed like the menus weren't really closing, I just couldn't see them any more so when I made a selection I was clicking on the invisable menu. Also sometimes characters would select abilities in the tactics menu that their class didn't posses, Carver choosing mage spells and such.

But like I said these bugs are likely already fixed in the final game. Is it possible to get a direct answer on whether you can in fact determin which sibling dies in the final game regardless of class?

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[Off-topic post deleted]

Modifié par JohnEpler, 22 février 2011 - 11:10 .


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Crashes 90% of the time after the "make your character" screen.



I got through it once (the first time, go fig) and it looks like a pretty good game. I'm worried about the buggyness but Hell, I do play on a PC.




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Crashed once but never gave me any other problems. Also Female Hawke's running is weird :D That aside it was really good, enjoyed it a LOT! :)

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Amioran

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Mudface67 wrote...

Appalling textures, ridiculous 'skiddy' combat, three second pauses during cut scenes completely ruining any flow to the narrative.


Reading other comments before posting? Never?

Use DX11 renderer. Probably it happens if you have a DX10/11 card and you use DX9 under Win 7 (and I suppose Vista too). All newer games that use DX10/11 runs much better with DX10/11 render if they are built for it.

Took a bit to find out it myself but before complaining you should try a little yourself to resolve a problem you have. It's a well known thing that DX9 lags when a game is made to work with DX10/11 with a DX10/11 card.

Modifié par Amioran, 22 février 2011 - 11:09 .


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My first impression is, "WOW that is a LOT of blood, and it's right in my face."  I know this is a game for mature audiences, but I'm really not comfortable being confronted with a line of creatures cut in half and fountaining blood.  I also have the issue that there ARE children in my house, and it made me uncomfortable to have them seeing that level of gore. 

This was not an issue in DA:O  because, first, there was just a lot less blood, and the dismemberments were limited to an occassional head cut off -- much more cartoony and indistinct.  Secondly, I could scroll out far enough that it just wasn't an issue.  I was very happy knocking down little monsters from a distance.  This in-my-face-exploding gore.... YUCK.

I'm very very concerned that I will no longer feel comfortable playing while my children might walk into the room. Wow, talk about cutting down on mom's 20-minutes of gaming reward times. :blush:

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Zeppeli

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JohnEpler wrote...

I'm going to say this again - this is NOT the thread to discuss other RPGs. It is for feedback about the demo, not discussing what is an RPG or what other games are 'truer' RPGs.



Then can I say that your game is not an RPG, after i played the demo? If you think it is, than i can say that it is an awful RPG. That's my feedback....

#967
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yeah, I'm good with everything BUT.....I really really hope we get a good explanation in the story to justify dumping one sibling or another on us. I really have no interest in carver, yet I am forced to take him if I'm a mage. It just seems a total waste of what could be a good storied choice moment by the player. Why can't a mage have another mage sibling? We already are getting a fighter type right from the start so it seems we can't have two mages, but we can have two fighters? I really don't like this forced business it just feels like I'm playing Bioware's character, not my own like in DAO. I know it's a demo, but I'm not happy with how it played out in the demo, but maybe getting into the game it will feel better.

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Flemeth looks so much cooler in DA2, I think they changed her character as well.



Everything looks ok even though the game mechanics and battle movements are far to similar to DA:O. Moves look flashier especially the rogues and mages.



I noticed they added new idle movements to your characters. Why on earth does the female character have these girly movements?? She's holding a two handed sword and slaying dark spawn, in conversation she acts all tough, but when she's idle she'll move around like some 10 year old princess. Ugh. I guess there's always something to complain about.



Anyway, everything looks better in terms of animation and the textures are better as well. Can't wait to play this at max settings!

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Two points:



- I really miss the tactical overview (PC gamer here)

- loading times before cutscenes (that never happened in Origins)



Asides from that I'm a happy camper.

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I play on Xbox 360 and it keeps freezing when you get to the point where there are two archers on top of a rock, it sucks. I am redownloading it

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Netopyrka wrote...

Kek. Demo is trying to find A: drive (Floppy, LOL) on my PC when I try to enter my EA account information. =)))))

Yeah, this happened to me too.  Just ignore it  (hit continue), and the game plays

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OK why am I the only person who is finding it rediculously hard? Played as a Rogue and getting my arse handed to me a lot.

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I'd like to point out some "issues" i observed during the demo.



1) Is it itching somewhere?:

Do the characters have something up their asses? I mean look at them running, it's a fraking moonvalk except they move forwards. Some animation speed tweaking is required.



2) Too damn fast:

Well, as a 2H warrior i have finally the time to land some special attacks before the target collapses but i tried to play a rogue and sweet mother of jesus, i couldn't grasp a **** of what was going on, just the time to smash the buttons randomly and see various body parts flying around.



3) Those little bastards are ignoring my orders:

Ended up alone during the second ogre encounter, just because the big Berta blonde tank refused to drink her potion, oh and the healing spell might need his cooldown reduced a bit.

#974
Bhav

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1Nosphorus1 wrote...

prazision wrote...

The demo basically confirmed every fear I had about this game:

- Bad writing.
- Bad voice acting.
- Trash mobs.
- Combat is both mind-numbingly boring and completely spastic at the same time.
- Art direction is a mess. I don't care about technical graphical quality, but art direction is very important.
- Limited dialogue choices that don't actually affect the outcome of the game.

So, to everyone saying "wait and see" (including the developers), am I allowed to think I won't like this game yet?

(And no, I'm not saying "worst game ever" - if anything, the demo is so aggressively mediocre it defies me to even care enough to dislike it.)


Pretty much summed up my feelings about it.

I can't believe some people are actually suggesting that this is only a demo when the game is a mere few days away and they're expecting graphial/combat updates.

It truly shows how stupid some of them can be.


Cebul86 wrote...

Well, few things:
1) Have you ever heard word "optimization"? I can play most games in hd quality, this game was "loading" in medium 1440x900... Are you kidding me?
2) Game felt like slasher, was enough to take my character and point enemies to kill, rest of the party managed to kill everything i didn't... Dissapointing.
3) Dialog options are for kids from kindergarden, sorry guys, bad move...
4) Graphics... For Christ sake, DAO was beautifull, DA2 is just bloody and boring, landscapes suck so badly my eyes bleed...
5) Size of the weapons... If I would like to play Final Fantasy...
6) Where is rpg? Didn't noticed it... At all...

Summary: I will probably cancel my order for this game...


Exactly what I think.

Modifié par Bhav, 22 février 2011 - 11:09 .


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Maera Imrov

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Amioran wrote...

Mudface67 wrote...

Appalling textures, ridiculous 'skiddy' combat, three second pauses during cut scenes completely ruining any flow to the narrative.


Read other comments before posting?

Use DX11 renderer. Probably it happens if you have a DX10/11 card and you use DX9 under Win 7 (and I suppose WinXP too). All newer games that use DX10/11 runs much better with DX10/11 render if they are built for it.


I have a DX10 card, W7, ran the DX11 renderer, and was still getting the loading in the cut scenes. For what it's worth. *shrugs* My lappy has a DX11, I could stick it on that and test it, but I'm not really in the mood to do that at the moment.

But I'm not that bothered. Very likely something to do with the fact that it's just a demo, and how things were put together.