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#1251
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So, let me get this straight. You have no problem with every male in the game being a muscular hulk, but one "shapely" female is sexist?


I have to laugh at this.  I played through as GuyHawke and while he's not a 98 lb. weakling, he's also in no way built like Isabela.  Nor is Carver.  Sorry.

#1252
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I was pumped for this game, but after playing the demo I'm having doubts. The controls definitely feel like they were made for a controller and this game feels more than awkward on the PC. The camera on the pc version is absolutely horrible. Bioware should have tested this game on the PC sooner with actual gamers or something. This seems like a rather huge deal to miss.



As of right now, I may end up having to purchase the xbox version over the pc just to be able to play this game as it stands. I can make due with the new visuals, but the controls for the pc are just killing it.

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PC Demo Playthrough thoughts



I think I need to get used to the interface. DA:O seems more intuitive, but that may be because I do not remember when I first played it. Can't find the tactic option to make my minions assist! Enemy Target of Char, or whatever. Kept trying to find options directly on the interface or quick keys and came up with nothing. Quickly gave up and escaped to the main menu for everything, which was annoying, but that's on me for not trying to figure it out.



The story in the demo playthrough felt disjointed. I'm pretty sure it was skipping around just to show us a bit more.



My pc specs are along the lines of the recommendations. The "loading" issues were pretty bad. Other than that, I thought it looked great.



From a class perspective, I found the warrior kinda boring. Quickly threw him on auto and took Bethany over. Much more fun. Let the tanks chug a healing potion every-so-often and really wasn't in much danger of going down. If I actually had the tactics set the way I wanted them, I would have definitely needed to up the difficulty.



Anyway, I see promise. Looking forward to the game. I'm not too stuffed about the walking or whatever has been bothering others. Give me a good story and I'll be happy.

#1254
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I absoutely loved Dragon Age Origins it's probably my favourite game and one that I will replay every so often. I have racked up numerous hours on it of pure enjoyment.



When I heard about DA: 2 is was estatic, and I had been looking forward to it for ages.



The first thing you did was make a character you had to play, nor being able to pick a race, I didn't like this at all, but I accepted it.



Today I played the Dragon Age 2 demo for the first time. And to be perfectly honest i'm now stumped whether to buy the game or not. And here are a few reasons why..



You brought the Mass Effect dialogue wheel to Dragon Age, why, oh why, would you do this. It's boring, be nice. be funny, be mean. DA:O's dialogue was much better.



Graphics. graphics are terrible, and the way you made the darkspawn look is just stupid.



Combat, hack n' slash combat, Mashing buttons and your character does crazy moves... I don't like this at all.



The cutscences, my god it feels like i'm watching a movie, cutscences every 5 minutes, some in the middle of combat....



I know I will be grilled for this I just wanted to voice my opinion.




#1255
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Why was the inventory not usable? Why couldn't I design my own character. Those are things I think should be in a demo like this. Short as it was. Apart from that I quite liked it apart from there not being any dialogue tree when talking to your companions.

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Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Aside from that, the loading during cutscenes is choppy and obtrusive and the lipsynching is off in some of the cutscenes.


We had some problems with loading before conversations in some PC configurations that are likely what you've been experiencing. My wife's PC had similar issues, and I can happily confirm that hers no longer has this issue between the time we were working on the demo and the final builds of the game. Likely an issue that's already resolved in the shipping build.


How old is the demo exactly?

#1257
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Can't wait to try it when I get home (on PC).

After over 160 hours on Origins and Awakening, I hope it doesn't disappoint.

Main thing I am worried about, from peoples comments, is the camera. If it gives that claustrophobic feel then I simply will not be able to enjoy it.



Time will tell.

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I have a question



Since Dev's are siffing through this for conversations concerning questions about control/gameplay, will there be any response to the jist of the criticism? Covering a few of the most spoken about topics maybe akin to other developers giving their responses on why things were removed/added?

#1259
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My demo feedback: Can we get toolset asap to FIX pretty much everything?

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Sylvianus wrote...


Bollocks, And the only Anime you can name is Dragon Ball Z...which was mostly a MARTIAL ARTS Show

In dragon ball, they are not humans, but Sayan, the superhuman.

Hawke
weighs how to make rolled balls in the air? And his sword weighs how
much? He holds it, and pat with as if it was just a pen or a plastic
sword.

Who taught him to do kung fu with his feet? Bruce Lee ? No, no, please.


Bruce Lee?

You do realize That Bruce Lee way of fighting means ""Cheat and win."

Also, I sense Tak Kwon do, Not Jeet Kune do.


There is also capoera. T___T

My god, with a sword. wtf ?

Modifié par Sylvianus, 23 février 2011 - 12:37 .


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solidsnake-davidhayter wrote...

i went on psn and couldnt find the dragon age 2 demo. is it coming out later in canada?


Save yourself the effort and your cash .

The game is horse manure.

Console will never buy another Bioware title.....they have utterly ruined the franchise.People need sacking after this hits the shelves.

No wonder they want it hyped....its a disgrace.

#1262
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I'm honestly considering quitting my sub, not because of the game, but because there's another game I want.



It felt different from Dragon Age and like they were trying too hard to make it like Mass Effect. (e.g characters that have their back towards your own character so their face gets in the camera) and dialogue.

The moves you do are ridicolous.



On the other note, I love the game though. Although, Xsyon looks.. like such an awesome MMO.

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marais wrote...

I have to laugh at this.  I played through as GuyHawke and while he's not a 98 lb. weakling, he's also in no way built like Isabela.  Nor is Carver.  Sorry.


Of course they aren't build like Isabela, they are men!

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Okay, let me start out by saying I tried really hard to play Dragon Age: Origins. I just couldn't get into it. Hated the combat, hated the silent protagonist, hated the "WTF IS GOIN ONNN" skill trees.



Dragon Age 2, at least the demo, cleaned up everything very nicely. Sure, the combat's not the best I've ever seen, and many will complain that it's been too "dumbed down," but you know what? I'm impressed with it.



Streamlining--You did it right this time.



Also, Isabella's boobies are disturbingly huge. Seriously, they frighten me.

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marais wrote...

JigPig wrote...

So, let me get this straight. You have no problem with every male in the game being a muscular hulk, but one "shapely" female is sexist?


I have to laugh at this.  I played through as GuyHawke and while he's not a 98 lb. weakling, he's also in no way built like Isabela.  Nor is Carver.  Sorry.


Image IPB

Right, thigh sized arms are a common place, sorry.

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Played the demo and overall I am pretty disappointed by the new combat system (PC version).



It's a real mess, it's pretty hard to control what your companions are doing and there they are positioned on the battle field. Either you let them do what they want hopping for the best, or you try to control them by putting them in "passive" tactic, but in this mode they stop attacking the enemy you assigned them or even randomly start walking around so you have to constantly tell them to attack the same enemy.



And I definitely don't like the locked camera, not a good idea, it often makes it very hard to target the enemy you want to target.



With all that I am starting to understand why friendly fire was disabled by default, I am not really sure the game would be very playable with it activated.

#1267
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Honest quote from another forum:

Some of you people need to read up a bit more about DA:O's development. It was always meant to be a PC IP. I remember David Gaider and other BW devs on other forums and interviews saying how it was designed for the PC only, way back in 05/06. They very much wanted it to be a true hardcore PC rpg in the vein of BG. When EA took over, DA:O was 3/4 into development but EA insisted they make console versions as well, with compromises being made to the game...that's when it all turned to **** for this IP. DA2 is just an evolution of the EA/BW corporate mindset.

But hey, its not all bad. For every old school rpg'er they've pee'd off there is probably 10 action kiddies they've won over....so yeah, EA will be rolling in money regardless of what cynical old farts like me think. Nobody is really right or wrong in liking/hating the direction this has gone. It's just that it sucks that for people like me, another (potentially good) rpg IP has turned to ****

Right, thats my monthly rant out of the way :P


Modifié par Bhav, 23 février 2011 - 12:42 .


#1268
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Played the demo and I enjoyed it. I am not regretting my decision to pre-order the game since I am interested to see what happens next.



While I did like it, there were a few things that I did not enjoy

- The constant stuttering and loading times when it switched from combat to dialogue to cutscene was really annoying. It was especially jarring when it stuttered for a second or two during conversations when a new person spoke. It really took me out of the experience. Hopefully this is fixed in the actual game



- Bethany's VO is just bad. I really am not a fan. I also didnt particularly like Carver's VO, but I would characterize his as sub-par, so definitely better than Bethany's VO - which is definitely a shame for me since I am not going to play mage first.



I did like the other VO work though. It just kinda sucks that I find the siblings VO work poor since I was really looking forward to the family dynamic and how that played out. I have a feeling that I will be talking to them less now. Well, perhaps I will be able to get passed it or they might improve/I get used to it later on.



- I am not loving the camera, but I Imagine that I will get used to it




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Just finished the Demo on the PC, and here's what I think:

The art style was more or less what I expected, but the combat and animations most certainly weren't. Combat was a bit like out of a japanese cartoon or sth. Huge swords, flashes of light when executing special moves... c'mon, that's too final fantasy for my taste. I understand that now the combat has become dynamic, but if I wanted to play a cRPG with dynamic combat and button mashing I would wait for Diablo 3.  And Flemeth's new appearance is just laughable, now she wears a kinky milf outfit and probably needs to use a ton of hair gel for those horns of her... That's just dumb.

What made DAO stand out was the combat which had a realistic feeling to it, it was a proper dark fantasy where even the teeth colour did not conform to hollywood trends. Now we're getting a semi-anime with characters blessed with huge breasts, perfect teeth and SpiderMan-like reflexes. And why mages now feel the need to breakdance with their staffs while using the standard attack? When they're in melee, animation looks cooler, but when an enemy is two screens away (more or less, impossible to tell with the constrained camera movement) and the mage keeps jumping around with his staff... well, it is a bit retarded.

I understand that the current trend in video games is that everything must be 'cool', with lots of special effects and that every character needs a wide array of superhuman abilities, but DA2 crossed the line for me. I bought every single Bioware game since Baldur's Gate, and I always considered myself to be a loyal fan. I even bought three copies of DAO: US collector's edition, Polish dubbed version and the Ultimate Edition on Steam. Not to mention I even fell for all the DLCs before I got the Ultimate Edition. I will still probably buy DA2, but I am not awaiting it as eagerly as before the demo. Anyway, if DA franchise continues in this direction I don't think I'll be buying any future sequels.

I'll give the game a try, sure. But after that I'll probably play through Baldur's Gate II for the nth time. And I'm looking forward to The Witcher 2, maybe not a proper RPG when it comes down to combat mechanics, but hopefully they'll get the mature fantasy theme right with more dialogue options than just the standard 'the good, the bad and the something-in-between'.

That's what I think about the demo, but I reserve my final verdict for the retail version. 

Modifié par Hardosuty, 23 février 2011 - 12:54 .


#1270
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Also I'm going to add....That freakishly rectangular torch in the very beginning? Yea, it's terrible.

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Moving on to what I'm sure people will find more pressing techie concerns, my framerate (on 360) dropped several times during the ogre fight. I plan on loading the game onto my hard drive but I'm curious to know if anyone else out there had this problem?

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Solstatic wrote...

I was pumped for this game, but after playing the demo I'm having doubts. The controls definitely feel like they were made for a controller and this game feels more than awkward on the PC. The camera on the pc version is absolutely horrible. Bioware should have tested this game on the PC sooner with actual gamers or something. This seems like a rather huge deal to miss.

As of right now, I may end up having to purchase the xbox version over the pc just to be able to play this game as it stands. I can make due with the new visuals, but the controls for the pc are just killing it.


QFT, I hope the devs read this

#1273
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I like the demo from what I've played. I'll play through the entire thing tomorrow. I like Carver better than Bethany, just do and I also find Isabela's breasts ridiculous (don't know who designed her but I can guess it was a guy or at least a guy who was overseeing the project). She won't be going anywhere with me. I do like Varrick's attitude though. I think he'll be fun to play with. I like the combat a lot. I like the new skills area (I played a mage) and I have to say that I like the darkspawn too. I don't have a problem with them. So far the only graphic I have a problem with is Isabela and believe me, I am a large breasted woman. I just don't think she's attractive at all and I don't like her personality from what I've seen. Other than that, I like what I've seen so far.

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Tony77A wrote...

Anyone else having stutter in dialogue/cutscenes?
I've got a pretty high end gaming rig and i seem to gett stutter and small delays mid scene.
No problems during fights.

Yes.  And I doubt it's my system.  The demo is caching like crazy in DX9 mode but not in DX11 mode.  But there it is none the less.  I've got the demo loaded on my SSD and it's just a freaking pig with the raw number of writes, especially to the page file.

#1275
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Oh my god! What did they do to Dragon Age?!



I hadn't expected it to be so bad.

It's a nightmare! Don't have to say why, other PC players alredy have...

I guess stupid consoles' players need stupid games.