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Anyone else loving Archery in DA2 demo?


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I just tried the rogue over tonight with archery, oh my god its awesome!

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LPPrince

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I didn't even give archery a shot in DAO, so I can't comment much on that Ringo.

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The ONLY problem I have with archery:<br />
Where is the arrow quiver when you have a bow equipped? Where is Hawke getting his arrows from?


Suspend belief, there's no string either :o Still, it looks like a great class this time around, will love playing an archer as a CC specialist and escape artist :happy:

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Will say however that I am no fan of stringless bows that don't even flex (mind you that plank of wood in the demo would require superman to bend...  tell myself, must suspend belief)

Modifié par Wompoo, 27 février 2011 - 05:30 .


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Well, its confirmed that we will have quivers in the actual game. The demo just happens to lack them.

As for bowstrings, while it'd be NICE to see them, I believe the devs look at them as a little insignificant detail that most folks won't pay attention to.

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So torn between stabbity rogue and Archer rogue.

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LPPrince

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Ha, "Princess Stabitty" vs "Princess Archery"

Well, I played another playthrough a couple of hours ago with an Archer Rogue.

Didn't take any damage whatsoever against the second Ogre.

Aveline was tanking and maintaining aggro, as I unleashed my AOE attacks around her enveloping the Ogre and the darkspawn, while using my single target talents against the Ogre from behind(to do more damage).

When the darkspawn decided to hunt me down, I evaded, and they ran right back to Aveline.

Ogre went down real easy, and then we mopped up the remaining darkspawn no problem.

Even Bethany was fine. Overall the fight was the easiest Archer vs. Ogre fight I've played.

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Well, in my experience, archery sucks. I can't really try the abilities if the enemies explode when I use them, can I?

Oh, wait.

Anyway, it's very cool. I noticed that if you want to use dual-wielder rogue you have to accept that jumping in the middle of the enermies isn't nice. You have to take them one by one and, if you have a good timing, you can do it very easily combining all the abilities.

Archery is amazing, you can just use Evade to make te aggro go bye-bye and Miasma Bomb (Flask?) to stun your enemies. Crippling Shot is very useful, 1-K.O hitting all the normal Hurlocks in the start of the game. It's very easy to use after you get how the abilites work, too.

Rogue it's a very fun class to play. I think I'd go archery first and dual-wielder later (after I have my Mage, of course, Ice power ~), but then again, I think all the weapon styles were great.

Except sword&board, it sucked.

Modifié par Dhiro, 27 février 2011 - 07:17 .


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LPPrince wrote...

Ha, "Princess Stabitty" vs "Princess Archery"


Think of it this way.  Archery is ranged stabitty.

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Also, Princess Archery is ALSO Princess Stabitty. If you're close enough of the enemy and using a bow, Hawke will pull a knife with his/her right hand. It sucks, so you may want to use Evade.

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I thought it was awesome too. Lots of power but not good enough for me as a first playthrough~

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LPPrince wrote...

Ha, "Princess Stabitty" vs "Princess Archery"


I feel a The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe reference coming.

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The archer shouldn't rely on the stab attack if someone is so close.

If anything, the moment your archer starts meleeing, you need to evade and get to a better spot on the battlefield.

But its still cool to see every once and a while.

As for stunning enemies, I haven't done it with an archer.

As far as Archery is concerned, I've just put points into the AOE and single target attacks, with Evade as a nice backup to get me out of harm's way.

I swear I'm gonna get everything in the Archery tree because the whole tree looks amazing.

Then I'll just have to figure out what the hell I'm going to do with the rest of the spendable points.

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LPPrince wrote...

The archer shouldn't rely on the stab attack if someone is so close.

If anything, the moment your archer starts meleeing, you need to evade and get to a better spot on the battlefield.

But its still cool to see every once and a while.

As for stunning enemies, I haven't done it with an archer.

As far as Archery is concerned, I've just put points into the AOE and single target attacks, with Evade as a nice backup to get me out of harm's way.

I swear I'm gonna get everything in the Archery tree because the whole tree looks amazing.

Then I'll just have to figure out what the hell I'm going to do with the rest of the spendable points.


It's very useful, if not very cool, to use this 'combo':

Enemy gets close to the archer. Use Miasma Bomb (Flask?). Use Evade. Use Crippling Shot.

Do it with the right timing and it's a very fun scene to watch, and you get distance from your target while doing damage.

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Altima Darkspells wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Ha, "Princess Stabitty" vs "Princess Archery"


I feel a The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe reference coming.


Aww, what the hell.

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Archery looks like a major improvement to me. The knock back effect is very nice, the fact that Archers now automatically switch to mêlée weapons is a relief to say the least. I never did get the tactics rule set functioning properly when it came to Archers and enemy ranges. The skill tree looks exciting too, and finally I get to make that Rogue/Archer I always wanted.

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Dhiro wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

The archer shouldn't rely on the stab attack if someone is so close.

If anything, the moment your archer starts meleeing, you need to evade and get to a better spot on the battlefield.

But its still cool to see every once and a while.

As for stunning enemies, I haven't done it with an archer.

As far as Archery is concerned, I've just put points into the AOE and single target attacks, with Evade as a nice backup to get me out of harm's way.

I swear I'm gonna get everything in the Archery tree because the whole tree looks amazing.

Then I'll just have to figure out what the hell I'm going to do with the rest of the spendable points.


It's very useful, if not very cool, to use this 'combo':

Enemy gets close to the archer. Use Miasma Bomb (Flask?). Use Evade. Use Crippling Shot.

Do it with the right timing and it's a very fun scene to watch, and you get distance from your target while doing damage.


I just prefer using Evade and then Crippling Shot to see someone explode. Miasma would make it easier as they wouldn't move, but I don't find it necessary.

Still though, in the main game, I'll most likely take Miasma.

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LPPrince wrote...

Dhiro wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

The archer shouldn't rely on the stab attack if someone is so close.

If anything, the moment your archer starts meleeing, you need to evade and get to a better spot on the battlefield.

But its still cool to see every once and a while.

As for stunning enemies, I haven't done it with an archer.

As far as Archery is concerned, I've just put points into the AOE and single target attacks, with Evade as a nice backup to get me out of harm's way.

I swear I'm gonna get everything in the Archery tree because the whole tree looks amazing.

Then I'll just have to figure out what the hell I'm going to do with the rest of the spendable points.


It's very useful, if not very cool, to use this 'combo':

Enemy gets close to the archer. Use Miasma Bomb (Flask?). Use Evade. Use Crippling Shot.

Do it with the right timing and it's a very fun scene to watch, and you get distance from your target while doing damage.


I just prefer using Evade and then Crippling Shot to see someone explode. Miasma would make it easier as they wouldn't move, but I don't find it necessary.

Still though, in the main game, I'll most likely take Miasma.


I played the game so many times, I can already see in my mind what use when to use. Like in the Chantry, when the warriors burst through the door, they will take their times to... roar or something. Probably using Taunt. Rain of Arrows (I hate to start remembering the proper names) can take care of them easily.

What I like more about archers is the adaptability. One enemy, two, three or four +, they have abilities to take then all, one by one or at the same time. It's very handy.

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I love Rain of Arrows so damn much.

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LPPrince wrote...

The archer shouldn't rely on the stab attack if someone is so close.

If anything, the moment your archer starts meleeing, you need to evade and get to a better spot on the battlefield.

But its still cool to see every once and a while.

As for stunning enemies, I haven't done it with an archer.

As far as Archery is concerned, I've just put points into the AOE and single target attacks, with Evade as a nice backup to get me out of harm's way.

I swear I'm gonna get everything in the Archery tree because the whole tree looks amazing.

Then I'll just have to figure out what the hell I'm going to do with the rest of the spendable points.


I believe Pinning Shot is the only single target talent for Archery.   Everything else is AoE, even the final skill, which I think archers will REALLY enjoy.

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LPPrince

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What's the name of the final skill again? The idea behind it and its upgrade sound EPIC.

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I'd actually planned on going Warrior like I always do, until I tried out Mage and saw how much it had been improved upon.  

...thanks to that, I then decided to give Rogue a try, and fell in love with the playstyle of dual wielding... until I tried my hand at archery...

I'm not entirely sure how to describe it, but it feels like such an improvement over DA:O/A.  It's like there's some actualy power behind the bow.  I can't wait for the release! :D

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I also really, really enjoyed being an archer :3 Its really close between an archer and a mage for my first playthrough >.<

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I still suck at playing mages. I'm too used to being a warrior.

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LPPrince wrote...

I still suck at playing mages. I'm too used to being a warrior.


I used to not like playing mages as well but I gave it a try and I love them now ^^

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I did give them a try, but I'm still teh suxxorz with them.

Archers on the other hand offer me something different than warriors and something I can actually rock with.