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[Ramirez Wolfen]

Sandbox47 wrote...

Why London? Why not New Mexico or Moscow, cities where there are more people than there is in whole of Sweden or Denmark? I mean, London is alright big, but they have the world to choose from! I mean, Hong Kong for Christ's sake! Many, many people. Or are they afraid to get their nuts kicked in? Figuratively, of course. I don't we think we could reach that high.

Because it's cliche and overdone, that's why they used London. Come on Bioware, don't do something that's been done to death.

[Pwener2313]

Silmane wrote...

Pwener2313 wrote...

I think the Reapers are beyond the idea of using Humans to create yet another Terminator style tin can.

My guess it's gonna be like the previous invasion: LAST MAN STANDING

I think reenforcing your fleet with 11 billion humans seems like a better option than killing them all. 

Just sayin.

I doubt the game will take course of a few decades, which is what takes to make a Reaper, and even then they'd need a base to create them, which they don't have anymore.

Creating a Reaper would also require minions (no, not husks) and if fixed the Geth problem, they don't have that either.  Plus, they're desperate at this point if they're attacking a galaxy they know (or should know) they exists.

[SnakeSNMF]

Nobody ever loses a war instantly, and you have to consider that Reapers also need to sleep too.

Their long hull from Dark Space probably weakend them in some shape or form because it requires energy to do stuff, so functions may be lost or something along the lines of that.

I'm pretty sure that they'd be hectic on evacuating off-world too as fast as they can, so it'd make sense to as why there is such small numbers dead. It's probably millitia/millitary force and some civillians caught by surprise.



And we can't forget the numbers not known on Earth in the 21st century societies without Prothean technology.

[Pwener2313]

Earth has a population of 11.4 million, just to set the record straight.

Modifié par Pwener2313, 23 février 2011 - 01:33 .

[Ramirez Wolfen]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Ramirez Wolfen wrote...

Sandbox47 wrote...

Why London? Why not New Mexico or Moscow, cities where there are more people than there is in whole of Sweden or Denmark? I mean, London is alright big, but they have the world to choose from! I mean, Hong Kong for Christ's sake! Many, many people. Or are they afraid to get their nuts kicked in? Figuratively, of course. I don't we think we could reach that high.

Because it's cliche and overdone, that's why they used London. Come on Bioware, don't do something that's been done to death.

Nobody remember :
"Reports are coming in from every major city, it's a well coordinated attack."

So basicly other city are attack, but london is a great place to show this in my opinion.

But places like London and New York are ALWAYS shown. I'm betting that if there is a mission on Earth, it's going to be in one of the following:

New York City
London
Paris
Washington D.C.

[Pwener2313]

Fallout already did D.C. and New York is a catastrophe **** so it's either Paris or London, and the VGA trailer is in London so I guess that's where we are headed.

[Vaenier]

If the Reapers wished to destroy Earth, they could launch a high speed projectile from outside the solar system and the planet would be gone in an instant, and you could do nothing to stop it. If the Reapers wanted to harvest humans they would just use seeker swarms and instantly pacify the entire population of a given region and quietly have their slaves collect the helpless victims. Again there is nothing you could do to stop it.

In conclusion, Bioware wrote themselves into a corner and now has to retcon the Reapers into pathetic morons who couldnt do anything right. The end.

[Pwener2313]

Vaenier wrote...

If the Reapers wished to destroy Earth, they could launch a high speed projectile from outside the solar system and the planet would be gone in an instant, and you could do nothing to stop it. If the Reapers wanted to harvest humans they would just use seeker swarms and instantly pacify the entire population of a given region and quietly have their slaves collect the helpless victims. Again there is nothing you could do to stop it.
In conclusion, Bioware wrote themselves into a corner and now has to retcon the Reapers into pathetic morons who couldnt do anything right. The end.

Obviously the post of someone who does not have a clue.

Projectile: The Reapers have arms? or rockets? Really? I did not know that..... wow, you are amazing at coming up with stuff that has already been done in the past. Are you acquainted with every writter's nightmare? It's called repetition.

Seeker Swarms: Most probably lost along with the Collector Base

Bioware: Have know what they've been doing and have not let us down yet. They deserve better then you calling they're work wasted or that they lack creative skill.

Shut up and play along, once they screw up (if they screw up) you can rant all you want. Jerk.

[Vaenier]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

If the Reapers wished to destroy Earth, they could launch a high speed projectile from outside the solar system and the planet would be gone in an instant, and you could do nothing to stop it. If the Reapers wanted to harvest humans they would just use seeker swarms and instantly pacify the entire population of a given region and quietly have their slaves collect the helpless victims. Again there is nothing you could do to stop it.
In conclusion, Bioware wrote themselves into a corner and now has to retcon the Reapers into pathetic morons who couldnt do anything right. The end.

Obviously the post of someone who does not have a clue.

Projectile: The Reapers have arms? or rockets? Really? I did not know that..... wow, you are amazing at coming up with stuff that has already been done in the past. Are you acquainted with every writter's nightmare? It's called repetition.

Seeker Swarms: Most probably lost along with the Collector Base

Bioware: Have know what they've been doing and have not let us down yet. They deserve better then you calling they're work wasted or that they lack creative skill.

Shut up and play along, once they screw up (if they screw up) you can rant all you want. Jerk.

I was going to argue, but I realised how stupid it is. Everyone here has already made up their minds. They have seen what they want to and nobody will see anything else. Why do we continue this activity if we know we achieve nothing?

[Cranyx]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Earth has a population of 11.4 million, just to set the record straight.

Um... The Codex clearly states 11.4 Billion. 11.4 million is around the size of NYC, I really doubt that would be the entire population fo Earth.


(If it was just a typo, then it was unnecessary, as I stated 11.4 billion in my OP)

[Yeti13]

Remember just because they go to Earth first doesn't mean they are not gearing up to attack Pavalion, the Salarian inner colony's, the Asari Republics inner worlds, Tuchunka, the whole Persies Arm, the Citadel, Omega, etc. remember that Reapers are extremely meticulous and patient, they want to learn before they destroy and they plan before they learn

[Moiaussi]

Pwener2313 wrote...

I doubt the game will take course of a few decades, which is what takes to make a Reaper, and even then they'd need a base to create them, which they don't have anymore.

Creating a Reaper would also require minions (no, not husks) and if fixed the Geth problem, they don't have that either.  Plus, they're desperate at this point if they're attacking a galaxy they know (or should know) they exists.

Even assuming that they don't already have other bases, which is highly unlikely, how long do you really think it would take them to put another together?

[Pwener2313]

Moiaussi wrote...

Pwener2313 wrote...

I doubt the game will take course of a few decades, which is what takes to make a Reaper, and even then they'd need a base to create them, which they don't have anymore.

Creating a Reaper would also require minions (no, not husks) and if fixed the Geth problem, they don't have that either.  Plus, they're desperate at this point if they're attacking a galaxy they know (or should know) they exists.

Even assuming that they don't already have other bases, which is highly unlikely, how long do you really think it would take them to put another together?

@Cranyx - thanks man, damn error. i sometimes hate being imperfect.

I would think it would take around 60 to 100 years max. Remember that they need to make the shell too, and half of a Reaper species skeleton was made in 2 years.

[VonStrangle]

BobSmith101 wrote...

225,000,000 spread over the top 25 cities of Earth.

The 9 million is just the "local" figure.

Logical reasoning says that they want smoothie ingredients more than heaps of bodies.

Mmmmm...


Smoothies.

[MJRick]

thespianicism wrote...

Sandbox47 wrote...

Why London? Why not New Mexico or Moscow, cities where there are more people than there is in whole of Sweden or Denmark? I mean, London is alright big, but they have the world to choose from! I mean, Hong Kong for Christ's sake! Many, many people. Or are they afraid to get their nuts kicked in? Figuratively, of course. I don't we think we could reach that high.

The Reapers really like Iron Maiden 

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[Therefore_I_Am]

One thing you have to consider Vaenir, the reapers want their livestock to be kept alive, fresh meat so to speak... If they wanted to harvest them dead, than you wouldn't have gotten your Normandy crew back during the suicide mission. They were all dragged away alive during the attack.

So, your complaints are invalid.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 23 février 2011 - 02:54 .

[didymos1120]

MJRick wrote...

thespianicism wrote...

Sandbox47 wrote...

Why London? Why not New Mexico or Moscow, cities where there are more people than there is in whole of Sweden or Denmark? I mean, London is alright big, but they have the world to choose from! I mean, Hong Kong for Christ's sake! Many, many people. Or are they afraid to get their nuts kicked in? Figuratively, of course. I don't we think we could reach that high.

The Reapers really like Iron Maiden 

fix'd

This is true.  The Human-Reaper Larva was clearly based on this album cover:

[OmegaXI]

The numbers low like that because humanity is givening them hell and going down swinging. I mean think out it, is the world going to end in a whimper? No its going to end in bloody battle cry of rage, vengence, and lots of cursing. a few million dead in the first week is nothing as long as we can make the reapers pay the butchers bill for it.

[Moiaussi]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Moiaussi wrote...

Pwener2313 wrote...

I doubt the game will take course of a few decades, which is what takes to make a Reaper, and even then they'd need a base to create them, which they don't have anymore.

Creating a Reaper would also require minions (no, not husks) and if fixed the Geth problem, they don't have that either.  Plus, they're desperate at this point if they're attacking a galaxy they know (or should know) they exists.

Even assuming that they don't already have other bases, which is highly unlikely, how long do you really think it would take them to put another together?

@Cranyx - thanks man, damn error. i sometimes hate being imperfect.

I would think it would take around 60 to 100 years max. Remember that they need to make the shell too, and half of a Reaper species skeleton was made in 2 years.

I meant another base.. and they definately hadn't been collecting humans for 60 to 100 years. It was only ships disappearing before Shepard was taken down.

[Moiaussi]

Therefore_I_Am wrote...

One thing you have to consider Vaenir, the reapers want their livestock to be kept alive, fresh meat so to speak... If they wanted to harvest them dead, than you wouldn't have gotten your Normandy crew back during the suicide mission. They were all dragged away alive during the attack.

So, your complaints are invalid.

Except that when the Normandy went down, the Reapers made no attempt to board it. They came around for a kill pass and they made no attempt to collect the life pods (nor to shoot them, strangely).

Therefore_You_Are..... incorrect.

[didymos1120]

Moiaussi wrote...

Except that when the Normandy went down, the Reapers made no attempt to board it. They came around for a kill pass and they made no attempt to collect the life pods (nor to shoot them, strangely).

What does it matter that they didn't bother with a tiny group of humans on one ship prior to the colony abductions?  It's a meaningless data point. And later still, they did board another ship named Normandy and abduct its crew.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 février 2011 - 08:28 .

[Moiaussi]

didymos1120 wrote...

Moiaussi wrote...

Except that when the Normandy went down, the Reapers made no attempt to board it. They came around for a kill pass and they made no attempt to collect the life pods (nor to shoot them, strangely).

What does it matter that they didn't bother with a tiny group of humans on one ship prior to the colony abductions?  It's a meaningless data point. And later still, they did board another ship named Normandy and abduct its crew.

How is it meaningless? The reapers changed strategies after the Normandy went down for some reason. Before then they were killing. After, 'collecting.' It isn't a 'meaningless data point' because the timing was different and there was a clear change in strategy (no colonies were disappearing until after that time).

So under some conditions, the Reapers are content to kill. Sovereign wasn't having the Geth round up prisoners either.

[Nicodemus]

I can't remember rightly but wasn't London mentioned at some point as being a main operating hub for the Systems Alliance military? I could be wrong, but it would make perfect sense to focus on a location that has a major strategic importance in the game world to make the story more compelling.



Also using a city that is recognisable to a large proportion of the world makes more sense than using Mexico city or somewhere like Delhi. Sure they have much bigger populations but the game designers want you to care about your enviroment and more people will recognise and mesh with a well known city.



Now back to the OP, the voice over was commenting on the numbers of dead locally and he mentioned that reports were coming in from other cities across the globe.

[Nicodemus]

Moiaussi wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Moiaussi wrote...

Except that when the Normandy went down, the Reapers made no attempt to board it. They came around for a kill pass and they made no attempt to collect the life pods (nor to shoot them, strangely).

What does it matter that they didn't bother with a tiny group of humans on one ship prior to the colony abductions?  It's a meaningless data point. And later still, they did board another ship named Normandy and abduct its crew.

How is it meaningless? The reapers changed strategies after the Normandy went down for some reason. Before then they were killing. After, 'collecting.' It isn't a 'meaningless data point' because the timing was different and there was a clear change in strategy (no colonies were disappearing until after that time).

So under some conditions, the Reapers are content to kill. Sovereign wasn't having the Geth round up prisoners either.

Sovereign was making the Geth create husks for it's own purpose. Not everyone gets liquified, some are made into foot soldiers (husks, abominations etc) others will get repurposed (surviving protheans made into collectors) and others just out right killed.

The collectors were after Shep and it didn't really seem to matter if they got him/her dead or alive. They took out the Normandy to either rid themselves of a potential threat or to capture the threat. Hence when they found out that sheps body was on the planet they went looking for it.

During the period that Shep was all meat and tubes the Collectors started to collect humans and liquidising them, but they were also using some for foot soldiers.