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[Terror_K]

After trying to play the new demo I've come across some horrendous crashing issues. The game runs fairly smoothly when it's running, but I've tried to play it twice and both times had not only crashes, but crashes that needed the restarting of my entire system. The first time the graphics and clours went all strange during the second wave of darkspawn and my whole system had to be restarted (I couldn't alt-tab or ctrl-alt-delete my way out at all, and my whole system froze now and then an chugged, not letting me exit the game). When I restarted and tried agai, I had a weird similar glitch when fighting the ogre, and it minimized the game twice, but when it went back it was fine. I continued on and then the graphics glitched again, and it crashed out my entire display drivers with a warning saying as much, locking up the game itself and reducing my system to 650x480 with only 8 colours.

Seriously, this is the worst crashing and experience I've had on this machine playing any game. This is seriously making me consider cancelling my pre-order, especially considering what little of the game I did get to play didn't impress me all that much. It's pretty much just a dialogue-driven hack'n'slash affair now it seems, and is too chaotic and fast-paced. No tactical view any more and the HUD is too minamalist.

In either case, considering the game went gold a while ago, I can't help but feel that perhaps it should have spent a bit more time in Q&A if the demo is anything like the final game. Only one other game I've had has crashed my machine to this degree before, and that was only because of a modified widescreen tweak.

System Specs are as follows:-

Processor: Intel® Pentium® D CPU 3.00GHz
Memory: 2GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS
Driver: 182.08
Windows: XP Service Pack 3
Direct X: 9c

Modifié par Terror_K, 23 février 2011 - 02:21 .

[Gorath Alpha]

Processor: Intel® Pentium® D CPU 3.00GHz
Memory: 2GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS
Driver: 182.08
Windows: XP Service Pack 3
Direct X: 9c

Perhaps this pair of lines in the System Requirements didn't get your full attention:

"   CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater
    CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 (or equivalent) running at 1.8 GHz or greater "

The Pentium P4, whether single core or twinned core ("D"), doesn't meet the minimum requirement.  It has been obsolete for about six or seven years already, and simply can't handle newer software.  Sorry. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 23 février 2011 - 03:01 .

[Terror_K]

Um... it's a Pentium D Dual Core, not a Pentium 4.



If I can run Crysis on high settings and both Mass Effect games maxed, I think I can run DA2. The game was --as I said-- running silky smooth before the crashes. Even better than DAO does actually.

[Gorath Alpha]

Sorry, you are badly informed. The P4 D is/was a P4. Always, until finally replaced four years ago by the first decent Intel CPU since the P3 (C2D).

It's old, it's slow, it's obsolete, and it runs hotter than a firecracker.

[Terror_K]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Sorry, you are badly informed. The P4 D is/was a P4. Always, until finally replaced four years ago by the first decent Intel CPU since the P3 (C2D).
It's old, it's slow, it's obsolete, and it runs hotter than a firecracker.

In either case, it's not the issue. If it was the game would run slow, but it doesn't. Beyond that I tried things again and actually got a hell of a lot further this time. I tried disabling V-Sync in case it was related to that issue, which I thought initially was working given I got twice as far without issue, and then it pulled the same glitch when I went to level up my brother and sister, and this time I managed to note down the message:-

"The nv4_disp display driver has stopped working normally. Save your work and reboot the system to restore full display functionality. Next time you reboot the machine a dialog will be displayed giving you a chance to upload data about this failure to Microsoft."

[Terror_K]

Tried updating to latest Nvidia drivers: 266.58. Still has the same issue after that.

[VonStrangle]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Sorry, you are badly informed. The P4 D is/was a P4. Always, until finally replaced four years ago by the first decent Intel CPU since the P3 (C2D).
It's old, it's slow, it's obsolete, and it runs hotter than a firecracker.

Except the part where my Pentium D runs everything just fine.

[RaenImrahl]

First off, let me gently caution about making comparisons between DA (or DA2) and any other games... from what I understand, DA uses its own engine, so it's hard to truly compare system performance.

Let's see if this will help get you a clean play-though... crank your graphics settings way down, try playing at a lower resolution, and make sure that the Nvidia Control Panel is set to "Let the 3D application decide" under "3D settings."

More advanced, make sure XP is up-to-date. Further, you can try installing the display driver again-- there's a link in my sig with info on how to do a clean uninstall/reinstall. Also, if you have nTune installed (I think it's now called "Nvidia System Tools")-- the overclocking stuff, consider uninstalling that.

Your CPU is old... that doesn't mean the game won't run on it, of course, but you might have to reassess your expectations a little. Also, take comfort in the fact that this demo is a little buggy for a lot of people-- Bioware has said on this very forum that there are some know issues with it.

Good luck,

RI

EDIT:  Adding... IF (and it's unknown at this point) DA2 is as much of a CPU pig as DA:O... Gorath's comment about heat could have some validity.  A sudden system lockup or restart could be a sign of overheating.  A program like CPUID Hardware Monitor can tell you what temps you're getting during the game.  A good dusting of the inside of the case, with a can of compressed air, never hurts, either. 

Modifié par RaenImrahl, 23 février 2011 - 04:46 .

[Terror_K]

Okay, reduced resolution, ran in a window and dropped settings to low. Still crashed (well, "glitched" I suppose is a more accurate term. See below about running in a window), in fact even faster this time.

Did the clean uninstall of my drivers and reinstalled, then tried again. Thought it was working, but then decided to go nuts. Was checking CPU usage at the time and it wasn't that at all high. Funnily enough this time it did it not during a battle with lots of darkspawn, but when I was just sitting on the first dialogue choice after the "real story" begins, and the CPU usage was only at about 45% at the time. So the CPU isn't being taxed. In fact it's never done it in the largest of battles with The Ogre and loads of darkspawn; half the time it's been on dialogue or menu screens, the other half during fairly small battles before too many can spawn.

I have noticed that playing in a window means it doesn't crash as bad and the whole computer doesn't lock up. I can actually close the program by clicking the X in the top corner, and it just closes as long as I don't leave it too long.

Modifié par Terror_K, 23 février 2011 - 05:40 .

[vrgadin78]

ur cpu is old and cant run it my man, sorry

[Terror_K]

Again, if it was the CPU, wouldn't it be running hard and hot during gameplay (which it isn't) and wouldn't the game stutter and lag, rather than running smooth as butter? (and it is smooth, more-so than DAO actually is).



The error message clearly also relates to it being a graphics card (or driver) issue. There could possibly be something wrong with my graphics card, but it's been fine until now with other games, so if it decided to start playing up it certainly did so at a rather interesting time?



I guess I'll just have to wait and see when the final game comes out and see if it does it too. A shame, because if nothing else I really wanted to be able to unlock those items for completing the demo.

[Scous3]

Terror_K to me it sounds like a bugged copy if it's running fine when its not crashing, and you don't get slow downs or artifacts i highly doubt it's hardware problems. Make sure your not running DX11 version as that has problems in the demo, if your not running DX11 i'd suggest re-installing the demo might have got corrupted somewhere along the install. First time i installed it the kirkwall cutscene wasnt loading at all and i got occasional crashes in dialogue but its working now thank the maker :-)

[Terror_K]

Tried reinstalling, but it didn't work. Though the file may not have downloaded properly in the first place too I guess. I've had that happen before with other games, demos and even DLC, and redownloading it has worked. But my bandwidth is limited so I can't really afford to try that again. I think I'll just have to wait and see what the final game is like.

[Fraevar]

Terror_K wrote...

Again, if it was the CPU, wouldn't it be running hard and hot during gameplay (which it isn't) and wouldn't the game stutter and lag, rather than running smooth as butter? (and it is smooth, more-so than DAO actually is).

Not neccesarily. When my old C2D died, it was still running at perfectly normal temperatures, but it was adding extra pauses to each and every loadscreen or select screen across a variety of titles. The crash of the display driver you're talking about sounds just like what happened with me and WoW - one day it just wouldn't load up without crashing or black-screening, and that was that.

Clean-installs and regcleans did nothing to alleviate the problem.

[Dr Skywalker]

 I have in i7 processor - and the demo constantly crashes.  I've gotten as far as the initial fight scenes and when the dwarf starts the REAL story, the customization bit, then BOOM CTD.

[streunekatze]

I'm having the same problem, the game crashes everytime and I have no idea what could cause it.

If I find a solution I'll write it here but so far no luck



Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2,66GHz

Memory: 4GB

Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT

Driver: 197.45

Windows: vista 64bit home premium

Direct X: 11

[Dr Skywalker]

Haven't tried this yet, but apparently there is a workaround:

http://www.gamemunit...demo-crash-fix/

[Terror_K]

Okay, sorted out my problem. Wasn't the processor, wasn't the graphics card and wasn't the drivers. It was: DirectX.



Somewhere along the way my Direct X must have been screwed up. Perhaps when I was installing a few old games recently. Reinstalling the latest version seems to have fixed the issue, and I can now play the demo all the way through. Now have done so twice without any issues.



So... this issue is fixed, for me at least. Good luck to others with similar issues.