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[RealWild1]

Mercb3ast wrote...

That said, Dragon Age 2 will not be a bad game. That isn't what people are upset about. What they are upset about is that it is NOT Dragon Age 2. It is something else.

Sure it exists in the same universe, but the game isn't the same. What hooked people into DA has been removed. While some people who liked DA:O will like DA:2 more many will not. The game has undergone a fundamental change. It is like comparing Batman with Jack Nicholson and Micheal Keaton to Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, only in this case Begins and Dark Knight were first and replaced by the more campy version. There are going to be fans of both, some people will like one more than the other but the BRAND was established on the more gritty realistic version with more depth to the gameplay. Now we have the campy version and its not where Bioware should be heading.

Man, YES!  I want my grit back.  Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the Wind Waker style animation in games, but it's not what I played through in DA:O multiple times and fell in love with.  Same thing for the combat.  The mages' animation is just pointless... they're dancing with that staff to fire from it! 

Dialogue tree is good for the Investigate or anything there on the left, otherwise it's too unpredictable.

Graphics are a step backwards!  I'm not talking about artistry here, I'm talking about textures.  I believe it's also done intentionally, but it makes everything look plastic; most detrimentally, the characters.  You see Hawke in a screenshot or wallpaper or something and he looks fairly close to DA:O, only with better, polished detail.  In-game, that detail is GONE.  Some nice additions... freckles on the redhead, etc, but the skin just looks plastic.  

The skill tree is hit and miss, but I can easily live with that.  What Merc here said at the end, though, is what's most important... this is NOT where Bioware should be going.  I got one word to describe this change:  Oblivion.  A good few people disliked the difference between Morrowind and Oblivion as well, and this change leaves a similar taste in my mouth. 

All that said, the core of the game is the pretty close to the original... I will play it, and if the story holds up, I will enjoy it.  After playing through the demo a few times, it grows on you, but I truly doubt it'll surpass DA:O for me.  I hope there's enough of a mixed review that Bioware sticks with what made it so popular - BG, NWN, ID... proper, EPIC RPGs(with the exception of ME, of course, but that's not this kind of RPG). 

2.5/5 for the demo... praying for some polish on the textures and the story to hold up to make it at least a 4/5 to come close to the DA I know and love.

[Da_Lion_Man]

3/5

It's alright, definitely not bad but it's nothing spectacular either.

[Brawne]

Modifié par Brawne, 24 février 2011 - 10:06 .

[dangeraaron]

By going by the demo, I'd give it a 3/5. Lowest a 2.5/5.

[Krusty84]

2/5 - Dragon Age: Invisible War. History repeat itself, again.

Modifié par Krusty84, 24 février 2011 - 06:53 .

[Freakaz0idx]

The storyline seems like it will be good.



There where technical issues, frozen frames for a split second, and pieces of music being played out of place very briefly.



Rogue feels kind of choppy, Warrior is great. Both combat classes look like they'll be repetitive excluding Mage.



7.9/10

[PinkShoes]

I will rate the demo not DA2 cause the demo is a few months older than DA2.



But overall 4.5 on ps3 enjoyed myself a lot the combat was amazing, cant say enough how much i enjoyed playing as an archer i might actually be an archer first play though *im gunna go play archer on the demo now ahahah ) looked great, sounded good. The music, wow was amazing once again. I actually took a more tatical approch to DA2, i know so many people saying you cant anymore but i did and enjoyed it. A few minor things where bad but they were small. Im glad it was good because i am a massive fan and would have been so upset if it was bad. More excited than ever before.

[seif9]

4.5/5  PC
4.0/5 PS3

Modifié par seif9, 24 février 2011 - 08:59 .

[kane442]

id say 9.5

[Drake211]

kane442 wrote...

id say 9.5

agreed:D

[SnakeHelah]

3/5 on the demo. I bet the full game would be something like 3.5-4/5

Modifié par SnakeHelah, 24 février 2011 - 09:02 .

[PrinceAmir]

2/5



Don't like the 2handed attack speeds, the removal of skills such as Persuade or the exploding Darkspawn. I once shot a Pinning shot and watched the guy explode right in front of me, wtf? and also shot another one and watched his torso fly away. Come on Bioware... you can do better than that. What was wrong with the old killing blows and style of combat where 2h weapons were actually slow? Very dissapointing.

[Phaelducan]

Mercb3ast wrote...

Phaelducan wrote...

OurSacrifice wrote...

Phaelducan wrote...

For crying out loud, yeah the demo wasn't perfect, but why the diatribe? In all honestly a game company is not realistically expecting a 10/10 game every time they make a product. I'll play a 6/10 if I dig the story/subject matter, but 7 or 8/10 is the majority of the gaming base. Do you only play games that you demand are better than 90% of the other games out there?

Your expectations are unrealistic. A 78-85% on metacritic is a solid product, and to be honest I expect DA2 to be around 88-92%. If you demand perfection from any entertainment, you'll never watch a movie, never play a game, never watch a Superbowl, etc. It's a video game, people.

Oh, and I didn't LOVE the demo either, but it was certainly enough for me to know that my decision to preorder was a good one, and that I will enjoy the game. It's 60 bucks... you aren't financing a house here.

EA thanks you.  They want people to shell out money for shoddy products - especially $60.

The American Education system thanks you. Reading comprehension is only marginally important these days, right?

As stated... I expect the game to hit around 90% on metacritic. 90% isn't shoddy. If you think it is, do us all a favor and stop playing games altogether.

You actually care about any ratings in the video game world? They are all bought or bullied. No reviewing site will DARE to give a huge 'AAA' company a bad review. Look at Call of Duty Modern Warfare, the review sites fawned over it and the PC gaming public DESTROYED IT. It has an 86 from critics and 3.6 out of 10 from actual gamers. That said, Dragon Age 2 will not be a bad game. That isn't what people are upset about. What they are upset about is that it is NOT Dragon Age 2. It is something else.

Sure it exists in the same universe, but the game isn't the same. What hooked people into DA has been removed. While some people who liked DA:O will like DA:2 more many will not. The game has undergone a fundamental change. It is like comparing Batman with Jack Nicholson and Micheal Keaton to Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, only in this case Begins and Dark Knight were first and replaced by the more campy version. There are going to be fans of both, some people will like one more than the other but the BRAND was established on the more gritty realistic version with more depth to the gameplay. Now we have the campy version and its not where Bioware should be heading.

3.6/10 as an average score from gamers? No, that's a lie. Use metacritic, that's why it exists. You need to use an aggragate so as not to get biased, skewed ratings. 

As to whether or not this is Dragon Age 2? Get over yourself... it's Dragon Age 2. Bioware is heading exactly where they want to be heading, and I'd give 2:1 that the game does well and shares go up. Like it or not, the job of any public company is to make money, and contrary to popular belief... *ahem* ... *dramatic ahem* YOU DON'T MAKE MONEY BY MAKING CRAPPY GAMES.

Dragon 2 probably won't be the best game of the year... in fact I know it won't, but it will be fun, it will be entertaining, and it will be worth the 60 bucks for most of the people who pre-ordered it. 

God, the arrogance and entitlement on these forums is absolutely absurd. You don't even see Bethesda fanboys being this irritating. Newsflash... don't buy the fracking game if you don't want to, but for the love of all that is good and holy, stop crapping all over it and trying to convince the rest of us that somehow Bioware is fooling 12 million  people into thinking the game is good when it isn't.


Maybe... just MAYBE, the game actually is good and it's your own assinine projections about what a good RPG is or isn't that is getting in the way of your own entertainment.... or maybe... just MAYBE you fail to realize that you have the free ability to buy and play any number of other games out there. 


Stop crapping all over the product. Don't buy it if you don't want to, and for the record, I also didn't like the demo and I think Deus Ex is going to blow DA:2 out of the water.... but for god's sake stop trying to convince everyone that DA:2 is going to be the equivalent of ET for the 2600.

/diatribe off 

[XX55XX]

4.5/5

Some kinks here and there, but overall, I liked the demo.

[Kromex]

0/10

[1varangian]

2/5 after playing the demo multiple times and trying real hard to like it.



Origins pulled me right in but DA2 just rubs me the wrong way.

[winterborn_89]

2/5

Pros:

- Improved graphics technically, although the art style seems pretty bad. Actually, bump this down to cons.
- Improved boobage.

Cons:

- The camera angle makes it difficult to assess the entire battlefield.
- The skill tree system is inferior to the original, which was more straight forward and displayed everything on one screen for easier planning.
- As mentioned earlier, why am I not allowed to click an enemy to cast an area-of-effect spell around its perimeter, as in the first?
- Interface seems more console friendly, i.e. difficult to use on the PC.
- The dialogue, writing and characters at least at this early point seem much less good and not as charming as the original.
- The fact that everything you do is just a story being told undercuts the immersion.

Modifié par winterborn_89, 25 février 2011 - 03:24 .

[graves29]

I was worried by the articulation on the faces. Wierdness with the eyes and eyebrows particularly. I hope this is fixed for retail as it was very distracting when trying to enjoy the story.



The overall graphics quality is alright. I'm somewhat put off by the severe style changes for the darkspawn and templar armor (just what i've seen in the demo), but that is just because I am a big fan of continuity between games.



I liked the gameplay changes. A LOT. One of the things that bugged me the most in fact was how unresponsive the spells were. You could queue a heal spell and it wouldn't go off in time, swinging a weapon (especially a two handed one. holy hell) took forever, and did not feel heroic in the slightest. I'm in gamer shape and have handled swords with more accuracy and speed than that. The menus also seem more streamlined. you don't HAVE to get pummel before a damaging attack, etc.





I have very high hopes for DA2, and the demo left me with more good than bad feelings. When the most pressing concern is buggy articulation points for the face, that's a good thing for a game.

[Naltair]

I give this game a Billion stars.

[Cyakura]

I give it a good 4.5/5. I like everything about the game, except as I mentioned in my thread:) The female walking/running animation, but it is something that I can live with for sure.

[casadechrisso]

2/5 - low enough to keep me from buying the game.

[DrunkenMagicianNL]

Dragon Age 2: 6/10. Of course, I can only tell for sure when I have played the game from beginning to end, but I'll probably won't buy this one. Based on interviews and the demo, this game feels to much like an action-oriented hack 'n slash rpg based on the superb Dragon Age Origins (which I would rate 9/10). The only reason to buy this game would be the story, but I guess The Witcher 2 will also have a great story and I expect to enjoy it much more than hack 'n slash Dragon Age 2.

[DrunkenMagicianNL]

Dragon Age 2: 6/10. Of course, I can only tell for sure when I have played the game from beginning to end, but I'll probably won't buy this one. Based on interviews and the demo, this game feels to much like an action-oriented hack 'n slash rpg based on the superb Dragon Age Origins (which I would rate 9/10). The only reason to buy this game would be the story, but I guess The Witcher 2 will also have a great story and I expect to enjoy it much more than hack 'n slash Dragon Age 2.

[AkiKishi]

7/10 if you don't mind the wheel.

4/10 if you do. Not feeling connected to the lead character is a big negative in an RPG.

[Gosuchobo]

1varangian wrote...

2/5 after playing the demo multiple times and trying real hard to like it.

Origins pulled me right in but DA2 just rubs me the wrong way.

what he said.