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#151
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Yeah, that whole "slaves are people" exchange with Isabella and the cackling evil doers was pretty trite. I really hope the writing gets better than that, because that really bothered me about Origins. All the humans were wondering around being totally awful and evil and the moment someone does something semi-reasonable you are supposed to believe they have depth of character.

100% agree,
I don't want to hear another **** with a Heart of gold story,

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I'm disappointed with the direction Bioware took with his game, yes, but am I going to ****** and moan about yet ANOTHER sexually charged character in a fantasy game? No. Do I wish they had realistic women in these games? Yes. (and I could also sit here and cry that I can’t play as an elf but whatever…) DA:O was just graphically inferior, so Bio took the opportunity to try and use the high graphic appeal anyway they could. This is not new. Sad? Yes, but I'm still going to buy it and so is everyone else so why is it still an issue?

Aveline is Over sexualized?
Merril is over sexualized?
Mom Hakwe is Over sexualized?

You seem to be saying because one character decides to wear a pushup bra, all the women in the game dress Sexual. Which alot of Women Do IRL. 

And what about the six pac and Pecs the size of texas every male has? Is that not oversexualized? 

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errant_knight wrote...

FrozenLilies wrote...

I'm disappointed with the direction Bioware took with his game, yes, but am I going to ****** and moan about yet ANOTHER sexually charged character in a fantasy game? No. Do I wish they had realistic women in these games? Yes. (and I could also sit here and cry that I can’t play as an elf but whatever…) DA:O was just graphically inferior, so Bio took the opportunity to try and use the high graphic appeal anyway they could. This is not new. Sad? Yes, but I'm still going to buy it and so is everyone else so why is it still an issue?

Because it's extremely disappointing after the pleasant surprise of them NOT going there in DA:O.


ORLY?


I have some Chasinid Robes that Disagree.
I see OGhren's Six pack that  to Disagrees as well.

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www.leetgamesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/morrigan-dragon-age.jpg

Morrigan's breasts are just as big Isabella's, and yet, she seems to be the ice queen that launched a thousand wanks. What's the difference?

And Isabella will launch a thousand more. Those of us who complain do not represent the majority.
I take less issue with Morrigan because A.) Her clothes were somewhat appropriate given her history and you could switch them out them anyway. B.) She didn't invite you come bang her after you spoke 2-3 times C.) The advertising paints Isabella as little more than a sex object and Bioware has done little to curtail this image, save showing that she's a sex object with attitude. D.) They really aren't as big as Isabella's.

Morrigan was a compelling character. So far, Isabella's more a a marketing strategy.

Did You complain when Zevran was a Sex Object? 

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OMG AGAIN?! No they aren't. Tbh, Isabella's aren't that big.

You're kidding, right?

They are'nt

They just very Perky and have good lift
I would google big boobs to show you what those look like but i'm afraid

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www.leetgamesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/morrigan-dragon-age.jpg

Morrigan's breasts are just as big Isabella's, and yet, she seems to be the ice queen that launched a thousand wanks. What's the difference?


Maybe my perspective is wrong, but I really don't think Morrigan's chest is as big as Isabela's.  I'm not going to lie, I liked Morrigan as a character and anyone voiced by Claudia Black gets big points with me, but I honestly don't feel like Morrigan's body looked nearly as absurd as Isabela's does.


Morigan's boobs are not even remotly close to being as huge as Isabella's  She shows alot, but she is a normaly proportioned gal. And if you didn't like looking at it, at least you were able to put her in a dowdy mage robe when you got the chance.   You could balace a platter of nachos on Isabella's rack, and you're stuck staring at them the whole game.  And regarding Bethany pre &post Varec's tale - on my computer screen they were same.



Can we stop using "Normal" to describe girls boob size,
I know there's atleast one female on these forums the last time this discussion came up who got insulted because people we're saying it's just wrong or un natrual for a girl to have big boobs. 

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C-C-C-C-C-Combo breaker!!!

Also I like Mount and Blade, very realistic portrayal of what happens to girls who wear plate armor (no visible boobs :P)

Modifié par Boombear, 27 février 2011 - 07:19 .


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I'm so tired of the rampant sexism.

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KateKane wrote...

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Isabella's don't seem as huge as everyone's making them out to be, there are busty women and she just happens to be one.

On its own, the issue would hardly be worth mentioning, but because Isabella also dresses and acts like a ****, people are gonna take notice.

Yes Someone who acts like a **** is going to dress in Plated Armor,
Miranda was one of the most uptight characters ever in a Bioware game, But because she wore a jumpsuit and was a woman everyone of the forum Elitist jumped on her and Bioware for it, Meanwhile JAcob with his Jumpsuit and Also very sexualized body were left alone. Why? Because he was a man and Miranda is a woman thus people are holding her to a Higher standard.

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

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Isabella's don't seem as huge as everyone's making them out to be, there are busty women and she just happens to be one.


Yeah, but I think it's the general trend of women and how they are being represented in video games that have some of the posters concerned. I know I've yet to see a smaller chested woman in a BioWare game. I see plenty of smaller chested women IRL.


I can understand the sentiment,  but,  I don't have a chest and I don't get up in arms over a lack of representation of small chested women in video game.  It would be nice, sure,  but games like everything else out there tend to use sex appeal to snare their audience.  Look at all the perfectly chisled male characters...  I haven't seen many complaints about that.

Also,  I find it funny that it's always female characters that are getting busted down.  First their too ugly,  or masculine,  or what have you... now their breasts are too big.  If people wanted to remain gentlemanly continually pointing out the perceived flaws of the feminine gender should dissappear entirely.    

This is definitly a case of making mountains out of soft balls. 


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I would be perfectly fine if it was just Isabella that had large boobs. The fact that pretty much all females in-game have major boobage kinda irks me.... but whatev. It's a minor thing.


Yea Momma Hawkes Huge ****** are totally Bothersome 

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Although it's worth thinking about the implications of magic. Invisible push-ups and growth spells. Not that Bioware explained it like that, but it's something worth considering

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It could be worse.
Remember Miranda's skin tight jumpsuit? Samara's cleavage? Jack being paractically topless?
Stay classy Bioware.


I'm assuming this was tongue in cheek, so I'm not actually jumping down your throat, but I actually find Isabela markedly worse than any of the females in ME2.  Miranda's body looked like a person's (even though she was genetically perfect).  Samara's cleavage was annoying and led to me not wanting her around (I have a hard time with serious dialogue when someone is standing by and flashing cleavage).  Jack's outfit was garish IMO, but I didn't actually mind the nearly-topless aspect in and of itself.  I hated that it looked ridiculous and that the parts covering her nipples were just there to be censored.  I actually wouldn't have minded Jack being topless period instead because I can buy that she just didn't give a crap and wanted to show off her tattoos.

Isabela?  She shows absurd cleavage, has comically large breasts, seems to like to fight by distracting people with legs and ass, and also acts like a complete ****.


Maybe that's her reason for dressing like one?

If you're a Firemen you don't dress as a Police officer

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Sexualization in bioware games has already been discussed to death, let it go.

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It could be worse.
Remember Miranda's skin tight jumpsuit? Samara's cleavage? Jack being paractically topless?
Stay classy Bioware.


I'm assuming this was tongue in cheek, so I'm not actually jumping down your throat, but I actually find Isabela markedly worse than any of the females in ME2.  Miranda's body looked like a person's (even though she was genetically perfect).  Samara's cleavage was annoying and led to me not wanting her around (I have a hard time with serious dialogue when someone is standing by and flashing cleavage).  Jack's outfit was garish IMO, but I didn't actually mind the nearly-topless aspect in and of itself.  I hated that it looked ridiculous and that the parts covering her nipples were just there to be censored.  I actually wouldn't have minded Jack being topless period instead because I can buy that she just didn't give a crap and wanted to show off her tattoos.

Isabela?  She shows absurd cleavage, has comically large breasts, seems to like to fight by distracting people with legs and ass, and also acts like a complete ****.


Isabella is far worse than any of them individually, but I am glad that this sort of thing seems to be restricted to one character in DA2.
Also, the ME2 designs mostly pissed me off because they were walking around like that in space, in combat, and sometimes next to magma. That don't fly with me.
Unless she gets less revealing look later in the game, or is the only character who's good at picking locks, I probably won't use her much.

Because a women who does not dress to you standards is "Worse"
20$ says you didn't complain about anyone but Miranda 90% of the time though. Won't use a Character because of the way she dresses?
OK

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Sexualization in bioware games has already been discussed to death, let it go.


But they always hold double standards and spew out the world "realism" when it is not Realism and are only using it to prove their point.
None of you have to dicuss this, But i will. 

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Bottem Line....A very sexy, realistic but deadly presentation of the DA female species...very nicely done Bio...


Bottom Line:  Isabella's breasts are bigger than her head.

I just...can't look at that and spend any time doing anything other than laughing.  I know she will spend zero time in my party just because I couldn't stand to look at her.

So Are Male HAweks 

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KateKane wrote...

Tourach77 wrote...

KateKane wrote...

It could be worse.
Remember Miranda's skin tight jumpsuit? Samara's cleavage? Jack being paractically topless?
Stay classy Bioware.


I'm assuming this was tongue in cheek, so I'm not actually jumping down your throat, but I actually find Isabela markedly worse than any of the females in ME2.  Miranda's body looked like a person's (even though she was genetically perfect).  Samara's cleavage was annoying and led to me not wanting her around (I have a hard time with serious dialogue when someone is standing by and flashing cleavage).  Jack's outfit was garish IMO, but I didn't actually mind the nearly-topless aspect in and of itself.  I hated that it looked ridiculous and that the parts covering her nipples were just there to be censored.  I actually wouldn't have minded Jack being topless period instead because I can buy that she just didn't give a crap and wanted to show off her tattoos.

Isabela?  She shows absurd cleavage, has comically large breasts, seems to like to fight by distracting people with legs and ass, and also acts like a complete ****.


Isabella is far worse than any of them individually, but I am glad that this sort of thing seems to be restricted to one character in DA2.
Also, the ME2 designs mostly pissed me off because they were walking around like that in space, in combat, and sometimes next to magma. That don't fly with me.
Unless she gets less revealing look later in the game, or is the only character who's good at picking locks, I probably won't use her much.

Because a women who does not dress to you standards is "Worse"
20$ says you didn't complain about anyone but Miranda 90% of the time though. Won't use a Character because of the way she dresses?
OK



It's not because of standards it's because of the hyper-sexualization of woman. This bothers some people more than others, and if there the toolset is released it will likely get a mod.

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Boombear wrote...

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KateKane wrote...

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KateKane wrote...

It could be worse.
Remember Miranda's skin tight jumpsuit? Samara's cleavage? Jack being paractically topless?
Stay classy Bioware.


I'm assuming this was tongue in cheek, so I'm not actually jumping down your throat, but I actually find Isabela markedly worse than any of the females in ME2.  Miranda's body looked like a person's (even though she was genetically perfect).  Samara's cleavage was annoying and led to me not wanting her around (I have a hard time with serious dialogue when someone is standing by and flashing cleavage).  Jack's outfit was garish IMO, but I didn't actually mind the nearly-topless aspect in and of itself.  I hated that it looked ridiculous and that the parts covering her nipples were just there to be censored.  I actually wouldn't have minded Jack being topless period instead because I can buy that she just didn't give a crap and wanted to show off her tattoos.

Isabela?  She shows absurd cleavage, has comically large breasts, seems to like to fight by distracting people with legs and ass, and also acts like a complete ****.


Isabella is far worse than any of them individually, but I am glad that this sort of thing seems to be restricted to one character in DA2.
Also, the ME2 designs mostly pissed me off because they were walking around like that in space, in combat, and sometimes next to magma. That don't fly with me.
Unless she gets less revealing look later in the game, or is the only character who's good at picking locks, I probably won't use her much.

Because a women who does not dress to you standards is "Worse"
20$ says you didn't complain about anyone but Miranda 90% of the time though. Won't use a Character because of the way she dresses?
OK



It's not because of standards it's because of the hyper-sexualization of woman. This bothers some people more than others, and if there the toolset is released it will likely get a mod.

That involves standards,
And 1 Women with big boobs is not "hyper-Sexualization" of Women except to maybe a Amish COmmunity. 
Men are just as Sexualized if not more. Double Standards

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There are two reasons why women are more sexualized than men. Note that as a straight male I may not be able to accurately say how attractive certain men are :P

1. Isabella isn't the only one with over-sized boobs. This is true of a lot of the characters, as you can see by screenshots (I mean, even Flemeth D:)

2. Men aren't hyper-sexualized to the extreme that women are. Yes the men have attractive faces and muscular bodies, but so do the women. However the women have big boobs whereas for the guys "down there" doesn't seem to be exaggerated (again I don't spend that much time staring at guys' personal bits :P)

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To be honest, I don't think I know anyone (MAYBE 1 person) that has any appearance similar to those characters, especially not their thigh bones and breasts.


Have you ever seen porn?

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C-C-C-C-C-Combo breaker!!!

Also I like Mount and Blade, very realistic portrayal of what happens to girls who wear plate armor (no visible boobs :P)


Oh god, I laughed so hard!

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I like how some females can wield two handed weapons and still have an slim body, dishing out the same attack power as a man. I would think after all those years of fighting would tone that body into a ripped killing machine.

It's not sexy though, so it's not allowed in the game.

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Go go platonic animal ideal unity!



I loled hard at that.

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I thought the breasts were a HUGE improvement over DAO.
I'm hoping DA3 will make them even bi... better.