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[Eber]

Considering the ME2-style tunnel level design featured in the demo I don't think exploring is going to add much time. How much time do you save in ME2 if you blaze through rather than "explore" the whole thing? Not much. There's not much exploring to be done in a tunnel.

[Rimfrost]

clearly the intro level to a game always tell you how the level design will be. I mean every other game like fallout or oblivion clearly gave you much more complex levels..Oh wait...

[SomeBug]

Bottom line is that 100 hours or 50 hours, that's still a huge quantity of content and significantly more than most of my other favourite games. It's value.

[ManiacalEvil]

I took 35 hours to beat Origins and 15 to beat ME2. I expect to take around 20 for this one.

[LdyShayna]

I thought it would take ten years to complete! Darn it! I was misled somehow!

[Magonian]

DanteGunZ wrote...

(though, I don't understand how someone wouldn't want to explore the world and everything within it.)

They were more than likely playing WOW 12 hours a day with no meaning or imagination involved..

[Eber]

Rimfrost wrote...

clearly the intro level to a game always tell you how the level design will be. I mean every other game like fallout or oblivion clearly gave you much more complex levels..Oh wait...

Are you serious? In Fallout there is a world to explore. In Mass Effect 2 there is only ever a tunnel to move backwards or forwards in. Granted that's exaggerating a bit because most of the time the option to move backwards is denied the player by some door or passage that only goes one way.

[Magonian]

ManiacalEvil wrote...

I took 35 hours to beat Origins and 15 to beat ME2. I expect to take around 20 for this one.

WOW.. my hero, now go get yaa fkin shine box...heh

Modifié par Magonian, 25 février 2011 - 09:29 .

[ManiacalEvil]

Eber wrote...

Rimfrost wrote...

clearly the intro level to a game always tell you how the level design will be. I mean every other game like fallout or oblivion clearly gave you much more complex levels..Oh wait...

Are you serious? In Fallout there is a world to explore. In Mass Effect 2 there is only ever a tunnel to move backwards or forwards in. Granted that's exaggerating a bit because most of the time the option to move backwards is denied the player by some door or passage that only goes one way.

And I find it much better than strolling through a huge, boring area looking for quests while doing absolutely nothing.

[ManiacalEvil]

Magonian wrote...

ManiacalEvil wrote...

I took 35 hours to beat Origins and 15 to beat ME2. I expect to take around 20 for this one.

WOW.. my hero, no go get yaa fkin shine box...heh

Not sure I understand?

[nicodeemus327]

ManiacalEvil wrote...

Eber wrote...

Rimfrost wrote...

clearly the intro level to a game always tell you how the level design will be. I mean every other game like fallout or oblivion clearly gave you much more complex levels..Oh wait...

Are you serious? In Fallout there is a world to explore. In Mass Effect 2 there is only ever a tunnel to move backwards or forwards in. Granted that's exaggerating a bit because most of the time the option to move backwards is denied the player by some door or passage that only goes one way.

And I find it much better than strolling through a huge, boring area looking for quests while doing absolutely nothing.

I agree. Exploration is only fun if something happens. Something always happened when you moved forward in ME2.

[Magonian]

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Modifié par Magonian, 25 février 2011 - 09:31 .

[Magonian]

ManiacalEvil wrote...

Magonian wrote...

ManiacalEvil wrote...

I took 35 hours to beat Origins and 15 to beat ME2. I expect to take around 20 for this one.

WOW.. my hero, no go get yaa fkin shine box...heh

Not sure I understand?

Its a movie line blast, prob to young to know the title....Anyone??

[Clonedzero]

Eber wrote...

Rimfrost wrote...

clearly the intro level to a game always tell you how the level design will be. I mean every other game like fallout or oblivion clearly gave you much more complex levels..Oh wait...

Are you serious? In Fallout there is a world to explore. In Mass Effect 2 there is only ever a tunnel to move backwards or forwards in. Granted that's exaggerating a bit because most of the time the option to move backwards is denied the player by some door or passage that only goes one way.

his point is that the intros to games are ALWAYS very linear. even in super open worlded games like fallout and oblivion. fallout you got the vaults, oblivion you got the prison.

because a demo / intro is linear absolute means nothing when it comes to exploring the game.
the origins in DA:O are super super linear as well and they are set up to be basic tutorial areas. the demo was made simply to show off the combat and a coulpe other changes. why would they put exploration and unclear goals in a DEMO? makes absolutely no sense.

think first.

[don1269]

beating mass effect 2 in 15 hours is no fun...i think my first playthrough was around 50 hours n i got everything except the explorer trophy which u get for visiting every single planet in the universe

[TheCreeper]

nicodeemus327 wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

Considering how much padding Origins had (Deep Roads, Fade Dear God the Fade) 50 hours sounds like a perfect length for the game (assuming there is nothing like the Sloth Demon to trade you in the fade for days and days)

Agreed. 50 hours is more than reasonable is some of the DAO style padding has been removed.

Probably be something like ME2, ME1 had a lot of padding (damn you Mako!) ME2 was shorter but there was little padding and the levels where better designed.

[Cloaking_Thane]

TheCreeper wrote...

nicodeemus327 wrote...

TheCreeper wrote...

Considering how much padding Origins had (Deep Roads, Fade Dear God the Fade) 50 hours sounds like a perfect length for the game (assuming there is nothing like the Sloth Demon to trade you in the fade for days and days)

Agreed. 50 hours is more than reasonable is some of the DAO style padding has been removed.

Probably be something like ME2, ME1 had a lot of padding (damn you Mako!) ME2 was shorter but there was little padding and the levels where better designed.

Wha....hammerhead, planet scan....., granted there are some workarounds on PC

[Aesieru]

Hammerhead was optional, and they failed with that, though I don't know why they think it was good.



The scan was... tedious but not necessary for that much.



And the biggest problem was some of those useless "hidden" missions.

[String910]

the first playthrough of Origins took me 72 hours si i guess that DA2 will be like 50 hours

[keginkc]

Reviewers tend to be on the faster end of the spectrum than I am, so seeing them say 50+ without doing all of the side quests is I think a good sign.

[DanteGunZ]

Magonian wrote...

ManiacalEvil wrote...

Magonian wrote...

ManiacalEvil wrote...

I took 35 hours to beat Origins and 15 to beat ME2. I expect to take around 20 for this one.

WOW.. my hero, no go get yaa fkin shine box...heh

Not sure I understand?

Its a movie line blast, prob to young to know the title....Anyone??

Is it Casino? My parents used to watch that movie all the time. I think the guy was Spider or something, anyhow, I remember something about a shine box being mentioned.

[Tarahiro]

To be honest though, this is just the base game of DA2 thats supposedly around 50 hours. We don't know yet what DLC they have planned for the game. Besides Sebastian, I believe he's the only current piece of DLC we know about that has a quest attatched to it.

Modifié par Tarahiro, 25 février 2011 - 09:58 .

[October Sixth]

DanteGunZ wrote...

Magonian wrote...

ManiacalEvil wrote...

Magonian wrote...

ManiacalEvil wrote...

I took 35 hours to beat Origins and 15 to beat ME2. I expect to take around 20 for this one.

WOW.. my hero, no go get yaa fkin shine box...heh

Not sure I understand?

Its a movie line blast, prob to young to know the title....Anyone??

Is it Casino? My parents used to watch that movie all the time. I think the guy was Spider or something, anyhow, I remember something about a shine box being mentioned.

Goodfellas

[Magonian]

[quote]DanteGunZ wrote...

[/quote]


Its a movie line blast, prob to young to know the title....Anyone??

[/quote]
Is it Casino? My parents used to watch that movie all the time. I think the guy was Spider or something, anyhow, I remember something about a shine box being mentioned.

[/quote]

 NO..Good Fellas wins..!

Modifié par Magonian, 25 février 2011 - 10:01 .