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[Moondoggie]

tez19 wrote...

I do not understand people that do not like games and then turn up on their forums moaning moaning moaning and more moaning. I am here to get as much info as i can on a game i am really looking forward too. If i did not like the look of this game i wouldn't waste my time complaining about it. I guess i must just have a more interesting life then people on here complaining.

It's called trolling. They likely have little interest in discussing the game. They will write things simply to get a reaction and when they get somebody all angry at whatever they sare saying they'll reply with "u mad?" or something along those lines which gives them a little cheap thrill.

Sadly a new demo for a major game like this means the trolls smell blood and the all come out to cause some anarchy. If you think this is bad wait until the full game comes out then they'll be on here in the hundreds.

[bloodreaperfx]

mcpothead wrote...

Anyone who claims this DEMO is more tactical than DA:O is a retard end of. 

 

[ZaroktheImmortal]

Pauravi wrote...

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

the dialogue wheel does feel a bit restricting in that I can only choose 3 options or more of the emotion I'm going to express what I'm going to say and how I'm going to say it rather than actually choosing what I say.

Just IMO, but it seems like that is the more important part to me.
Since you don't have control over what the words actually say you are never going to be able to say exactly what you want anyway.  So when you're reading down the dialogue options in DAO, isn't the emotion really what you're looking for when you read it?  If Leliana asks me something and it gives me 5 options, 2 of them are likely to be questions, and 3 of them are probably mean/nice/neutral responses.  There is a 99% chance that none of them say exactly what I'd want to if I were the character, so I'm really just looking for (if I'm romancing her) "which one is the nice one?", or "which one is the flirty one?".  And then half of the dialogue options lead to the same place anyway.

The wheel does the exact same thing, they just make it so that you don't have to decipher what the line is trying to convey (which isn't always easy) -- they give you the little "mood ring".

Well I could usually tell what emotion any choice would express in origins easy enough. But again it wouldn't be so bad if they had more than 3 choices. Still I'll go with it, see how this new game plays out. The rest of the game seemed alright. Some things I would I didn't like, some things I did. Overall it'll be worth seeing how the full game plays out.

Modifié par ZaroktheImmortal, 23 février 2011 - 01:14 .

[Drowsy0106]

Zigzaggy wrote...

I respect your opinion.

But in my humble opinion Bioware have taken a huge step back.

Graphically inferior and as rubbish as Dynasty Warriors.Not good.Unless you like those type of games which Dragon Age Origins wasn't.

Very annoyed at how garbage DA2 is.

Dynasty Warriors was awesome. 

The fighting in the demo might not have been a tactical masterpiece but it was a lot of fun, gameplay matters. 

Modifié par Drowsy0106, 23 février 2011 - 01:14 .

[Moondoggie]

mcpothead wrote...

Anyone who claims this DEMO is more tactical than DA:O is a retard end of.

"If I just want a story, I'll watch a movie or read a book which are much, much better ways to tell a story."

When did anyone say they just wanted a story ?

[tez19]

Moondoggie wrote...

tez19 wrote...

I do not understand people that do not like games and then turn up on their forums moaning moaning moaning and more moaning. I am here to get as much info as i can on a game i am really looking forward too. If i did not like the look of this game i wouldn't waste my time complaining about it. I guess i must just have a more interesting life then people on here complaining.

It's called trolling. They likely have little interest in discussing the game. They will write things simply to get a reaction and when they get somebody all angry at whatever they sare saying they'll reply with "u mad?" or something along those lines which gives them a little cheap thrill.

Sadly a new demo for a major game like this means the trolls smell blood and the all come out to cause some anarchy. If you think this is bad wait until the full game comes out then they'll be on here in the hundreds.

Lol yeah i know they are trolls but my question is why?? What could they possibly get out of it, when someone replys to them do they masterbate over it or laugh to themselves? It seems a waste of everyones time including their own. Like i said i guess i have a more interesting life then them if they can waste hours on a forum complaining.

[Deathwarden]

hope you do realize you can play both ways..... the old way and the new way. How you play is totally up to you. I tried both the old tactical way and the new way. Both were good for different situations. I don't get why people are crying. If you pref tactical play that way.

[mcpothead]

Someone posts "I love this game" - no one moans



Someone posts "I hate this game" - OMG WTF STOP TROLLING AND START POSTING STUPID PICTURES.



bloodreaperfx classic example I am posting my opinion and you are going on a personal attack against me with nothing to do with the original post.



Right ok I'm the one trolling yes yes keep telling yourself that

[1varangian]

The frustration of the hardcore RPG fans comes from the fact that Bioware, probably the number one RPG developer, has chosen to turn the DA universe into hack'n'slash RPG-lite. Instead of dark fantasy, it is now comic book fantasy.



DA2 might be a mechanically good game. It might be aggressively marketed and sell a lot, but an RPG masterpiece it unfortunately is not. Everything I've seen, read and played confirms that it will be casual, forgettable, unimpressive fun with a lot of silly elements in it. Play and forget. Definitely a giant step back from Origins and no competition for Mass Effect and the Witcher as a serious RPG.



I'm very disappointed because I see the promise of the DA universe going down the drain. DA2 is fast food when I want a juicy steak.



*ninja-teleports out*

[Dan_cw]

tez19 wrote...

Moondoggie wrote...

tez19 wrote...

I do not understand people that do not like games and then turn up on their forums moaning moaning moaning and more moaning. I am here to get as much info as i can on a game i am really looking forward too. If i did not like the look of this game i wouldn't waste my time complaining about it. I guess i must just have a more interesting life then people on here complaining.

It's called trolling. They likely have little interest in discussing the game. They will write things simply to get a reaction and when they get somebody all angry at whatever they sare saying they'll reply with "u mad?" or something along those lines which gives them a little cheap thrill.

Sadly a new demo for a major game like this means the trolls smell blood and the all come out to cause some anarchy. If you think this is bad wait until the full game comes out then they'll be on here in the hundreds.

Lol yeah i know they are trolls but my question is why?? What could they possibly get out of it, when someone replys to them do they masterbate over it or laugh to themselves? It seems a waste of everyones time including their own. Like i said i guess i have a more interesting life then them if they can waste hours on a forum complaining.

I think the answer is that they're really great people or have really great lives.

Edit: Or they're maybe young. To be honest with you, the forums were actually quite relaxed yesterday up until about 4-5pm UK time yesterday. Majority of the impressions were good and even the ones that weren't were expressed fine.

Modifié par Dan_cw, 23 février 2011 - 01:21 .

[Moondoggie]

mcpothead wrote...

Someone posts "I love this game" - no one moans

Someone posts "I hate this game" - OMG WTF STOP TROLLING AND START POSTING STUPID PICTURES.

bloodreaperfx classic example I am posting my opinion and you are going on a personal attack against me with nothing to do with the original post.

Right ok I'm the one trolling yes yes keep telling yourself that

U mad?

[Appolo90]

The combat had the same "spirit" as the first. It was only made dull by repetitive enemies and lack of skills to use. I think it will be enjoyable.



However, DA2 was robbed of some personality. Lame dialogue that didn't match up with the high-octane environment was the biggest problem, but when we skipped forward to Kirkwall, it seemed much better! The encounter with that bandit leader dude felt quite authentic, though somewhat ruined by a certain someone's stupidly overgrown breasts. Seriously, it was distracting and ridiculous.



The character models are superb. LOVE them, especially that templar guy. Also loved the death scene.. that was well-orchestrated for the most part. I like the music even more than the first as well.



So the only real negative (and it's a big one) was the waves upon waves of the same enemy that left me feeling numb after just 5 minutes of it. If anyone understands juxtaposition, it's you, Bioware. why did you choose to ignore it?

[1varangian]

mcpothead wrote...

Someone posts "I love this game" - no one moans

Someone posts "I hate this game" - OMG WTF STOP TROLLING AND START POSTING STUPID PICTURES.

bloodreaperfx classic example I am posting my opinion and you are going on a personal attack against me with nothing to do with the original post.

Right ok I'm the one trolling yes yes keep telling yourself that

Rather than hating anything I'd say this is frustration over lost potential.

[Andy379]

so far DA2 makes Origins look like a waste of time

[handheld]

mcpothead wrote...

attack>attack>attack watch over the top animation attack>attack>pointless **** dialogue > attack attack BORING

Go play devil may cry that whats this game is a poor copy off

Handheld knows that clearly you havent played devil may cry otherwise you would know that devil may cry is a hack and slash rather than a demo of an rpg about to come out.

You can thank handheld for this bit of knowledge by sending him a copy of DA2

[mcpothead]

Not clinically

[Drowsy0106]

1varangian wrote...

The frustration of the hardcore RPG fans comes from the fact that Bioware, probably the number one RPG developer, has chosen to turn the DA universe into hack'n'slash RPG-lite. Instead of dark fantasy, it is now comic book fantasy.

DA2 might be a mechanically good game. It might be aggressively marketed and sell a lot, but an RPG masterpiece it unfortunately is not. Everything I've seen, read and played confirms that it will be casual, forgettable, unimpressive fun with a lot of silly elements in it. Play and forget. Definitely a giant step back from Origins and no competition for Mass Effect and the Witcher as a serious RPG.

I'm very disappointed because I see the promise of the DA universe going down the drain. DA2 is fast food when I want a juicy steak.

*ninja-teleports out*

If your gonna be angry, aim it at EA, they make those choices. If u gotta work with a deadline u just gotta make due the best you can. 

[bloodreaperfx]

mcpothead wrote...

bloodreaperfx classic example I am posting my opinion and you are going on a personal attack against me with nothing to do with the original post.

Right ok I'm the one trolling yes yes keep telling yourself that

You are calling people retards because they have a different oppinion than yourself and then call them 5yo. You, my friend, are the epitome of irony. Hence the image I posted fits you perfectly.

Your view is like this: "IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG LALALALALA".

How about you insert another coin in the post machine and learn to add arguments to your posts instead of insulting ? Maybe then you wont get flamed in return.

Modifié par bloodreaperfx, 23 février 2011 - 01:23 .

[Appolo90]

Andy379 wrote...

so far DA2 makes Origins look like a waste of time

I don't see how you can possibly make that call when the demo showed off so little actual content. I agree DA2 is now promising, but I wouldn't go that far not knowing if the story will suck or not.

[contextual_entity]

Zigzaggy wrote...

I respect your opinion.

But in my humble opinion Bioware have taken a huge step back.

Graphically inferior and as rubbish as Dynasty Warriors.Not good.Unless you like those type of games which Dragon Age Origins wasn't.

Very annoyed at how garbage DA2 is.

I hated DW but from what I've played in the Demo, DA2 I love. I think your comparision is off.

[mcpothead]

 Handheld can jog on with his stupid 3rd person speaking its not cool its ****.

I have played Devil may cry and I like it. 

The reason ? Because it was marketed as hack and slash all the previous game were hack and slash. I purchased the game knowing it was a hack and slash. 

Dragon Age 2 marketed as an RPG all previous game are RPG's demo comes out and its a hack an slash.  If your stupid enough to buy biowares ****** poor attempt of appealing to little boys like handheld - more fool you.

[Moondoggie]

Inarborat wrote...

How are we looking through rose tinted glasses?  Origins came out less than 2 years ago.  Surely the fans didn't just make up that whole "spiritual successor" to Baldur's Gate...who could have thought of something like that?  Nor did they say DAII is tactically stronger and better game than Baldur's Gate.    Again, I'm not saying I want a game using DnD rules but why throw out so many things instead of improving them?  Obviously, there is still a market for an rpg with an old school feel.  DAO sold very, very well.  Why the need to Mass Effect'd the game?  Why can't Bioware make two distinct rpgs.  Instead, we're getting action games that are  guns and talking in a sci-fi setting and now swords and magic and talking in a fantasy setting.  The games aren't that similar.  If you think so, great.  I'd hardly call this a modern rpg since Bioware's been farming the same formula for a decade...and it's formula I've enjoyed up until now.  Maybe it's best I look to greener, prettier and more innovative pastures.

Care to back up the ME2 outsold DAO?

I'm not sure what you mean by "throw away so many things" what is missing exactly that you are upset about? I'm not trying to have an argument with you i'm simply having a discussion about your opinons and was curious what you feel is missing in DA II? I mean the pause and issue orders is there,the tactics,the inventory,the skill trees are different but still there. Not a lot a changed sure theres some differences but not enough to say they ripped everything out from Origins.

And since you didn't back up your claim that DAO sold more i see no reason for me to go digging around to look at the latest figures however. DAO had a VERY slow start with sales where as Mass Effect 2 sold 2 million copies in it's first week. Food for thought eh?

[Teknor]

mcpothead wrote...

Dragon Age 2 marketed as an RPG all previous game are RPG's demo comes out and its a hack an slash.  If your stupid enough to buy biowares ****** poor attempt of appealing to little boys like handheld - more fool you.

Pot head indeed.