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#26
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So I guess you guys are already starting protest against TV Show Spartacus, coz its full of slaves!!

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Sengoku no Maou wrote...

Only a fool would not see how this can be offensive.



If words written by some kid on an internet forum offends someone, that person should probably stop using it or grow a backbone.

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wowpwnslol wrote...

Sengoku no Maou wrote...

Only a fool would not see how this can be offensive.



If words written by some kid on an internet forum offends someone, that person should probably stop using it or grow a backbone.


You are right, thats why I'm not offended by calling me kid =)

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Wulfram wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Depends on the quality of said slaves. Are they physically fit and in good health? Are they young? Are they skilled blacksmiths, soldiers etc?


From what we're told, they're random refugees.  Not worth the price of an epic magical weapon each.

Look at the way 15 pieces is treated in the City Elf Origin.  It's clear that the yearly wage for an elf is much less that 1 sovereign, and even that would suggest they'd have to keep working for a century to pay off.


Good point, but to be fair, Hawke and Pals were also random refugees. Just 'cause you're fleeing the Darkspawn doesn't mean you're worthless.

Though, you're right, even still 100 sovereigns does seem a bit much for Elves.

..that came off as a bit racist didn't it :lol:

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Sex slaves...

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I'm Irish, we we're enslaved for 400 years by Britian, THOS OFFENDS ME!!!!!!!!1111



herp.

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so u can buy slaves in the game :D?

im interested

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Uhm, ... dudes. some of you should check their Sarcasm-Detectors:

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Yea exactly I was like WTF ... but still can Hawke buy a slave for his mansion? Some cute elven maid? ... oh man another mod idea for toolset :>


*pling* *pling* *pling*

Mine is working!

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WidowMaker9394 wrote...

Sex slaves...


hell yes !

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IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

tez19 wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

100 sovereigns a head?  Who would pay 100 sovereigns for an elf?  Is the gold content of the Kirkwall sovereign practically non existant?


Depends on the quality of said slaves. Are they physically fit and in good health? Are they young? Are they skilled blacksmiths, soldiers etc?

And of course, are they sexy?


Actually that is a good point. Sex slaves are/were real.

Yup, unfortunately this is still very much happening in every country around the world.

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Purgatious wrote...

I'm Irish, we we're enslaved for 400 years by Britian, THOS OFFENDS ME!!!!!!!!1111

herp.

Don't irish people solve their problems by going to the pub and drink until they fall over?

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AlexXIV wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

I'm Irish, we we're enslaved for 400 years by Britian, THOS OFFENDS ME!!!!!!!!1111

herp.

Don't irish people solve their problems by going to the pub and drink until they fall over?


Doesn't everyone? :blink:

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DraCZeQQ wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Well LadyHawke has hers mansion. And Im pretty sure she wont be cleaning, sweeping taking care of it. So she NEEDS some servants. And its pretty much the same if she hire some elf or buy elf slave and treat him nice ... but still her armor must be polished, her clothes washed, floor swept and dinner ready! =)

So if you work for someone it is the same as being a slave?


Never said that ... I said that my mansion needs servant(s) ... and it doesnt matter whenever they are hired or bought ... I must say you guys are terrible at roleplay if this is whats bothering you ;)

So being against slavery is bad roleplay?

I am not bothered, just wondering.

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Drowsy0106 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

I'm Irish, we we're enslaved for 400 years by Britian, THOS OFFENDS ME!!!!!!!!1111

herp.

Don't irish people solve their problems by going to the pub and drink until they fall over?


Doesn't everyone? :blink:


I play Videogames!

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Drowsy0106 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

I'm Irish, we we're enslaved for 400 years by Britian, THOS OFFENDS ME!!!!!!!!1111

herp.

Don't irish people solve their problems by going to the pub and drink until they fall over?


Doesn't everyone? :blink:

Yeah but not everyone does have a reputation for it Image IPB

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Hmm. who knows? The're apparantly worth setting up shop in Denerim and risking the wrath of the people aswell as the authorities (aswell as meddling Gray Wardens..) and they do sell bows worth more than that.

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AlexXIV wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Well LadyHawke has hers mansion. And Im pretty sure she wont be cleaning, sweeping taking care of it. So she NEEDS some servants. And its pretty much the same if she hire some elf or buy elf slave and treat him nice ... but still her armor must be polished, her clothes washed, floor swept and dinner ready! =)

So if you work for someone it is the same as being a slave?


Never said that ... I said that my mansion needs servant(s) ... and it doesnt matter whenever they are hired or bought ... I must say you guys are terrible at roleplay if this is whats bothering you ;)

So being against slavery is bad roleplay?

I am not bothered, just wondering.


there is difference of being against slavery in YOUR game ... and ranting about me being pro slavery in MY game ;) ... but to answer your question being against slavery in your game is absolutly OK roleplay-wise

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DraCZeQQ wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Well LadyHawke has hers mansion. And Im pretty sure she wont be cleaning, sweeping taking care of it. So she NEEDS some servants. And its pretty much the same if she hire some elf or buy elf slave and treat him nice ... but still her armor must be polished, her clothes washed, floor swept and dinner ready! =)

So if you work for someone it is the same as being a slave?


Never said that ... I said that my mansion needs servant(s) ... and it doesnt matter whenever they are hired or bought ... I must say you guys are terrible at roleplay if this is whats bothering you ;)

So being against slavery is bad roleplay?

I am not bothered, just wondering.


there is difference of being against slavery in YOUR game ... and ranting about me being pro slavery in MY game ;) ... but to answer your question being against slavery in your game is absolutly OK roleplay-wise

I didn't mean to rant, just to point out that there is a difference between a slave and a servant. If you don't care, that's fine for me, as is whatever you do with your game Image IPB

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100 sovs? That jerk Caladrius ripped me off!





I think the largest discrepancy between the price of hiring a less than 1 sovereign slum-elf and buying a 100 sovereign slave elf is that the slave elf is a living battery for blood mages. You'd probably pay just as much for lyrium, and that is a non-renewable supply.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Purgatious wrote...

I'm Irish, we we're enslaved for 400 years by Britian, THOS OFFENDS ME!!!!!!!!1111

herp.

Don't irish people solve their problems by going to the pub and drink until they fall over?


We're free aren't we?

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Buying a slave, that sounds intriguing. I'd buy one to carry around my stuff for me, since we don't get horses.

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He actually says 1 a head, I think.

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Given the lack of roleplaying that actually takes place on these forums and the cavalier way in which slavery was described as a fun endeavor, yeah, I can see how people would be a little bent out of shape. That said, yes, if you're playing an evil SOB, I could see owning slaves (as opposed to hiring servants/maids). Is it a mechanic I think Bioware should spend time developing? No. But if you want it and can get it in a mod, no skin off my back.



And yes, 100 sovereigns seemed like a lot to me. Anyone remember if there was reference to a "market rate" during the alienage sequence in DAO?

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koshindan wrote...

100 sovs? That jerk Caladrius ripped me off!


Or, you could just say that Hayder was attempting to bull**** you and exaggerating the amount of money involved.  "100 Sovereigns" may be shorthand for "a lot of freaking money" like "a million dollars" is to most people.

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There was no mention of a market rate, however Caladrius offers you 100 sovereigns to let him go free.