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[StokedUp]

i cant believe this you think mass effect 3 is going to be Sh*t. BioWare will definitely not mess this up, they've possibly made one of the best franchises ever made with mass effect and they will make sure that this final game in shepards story is not a flop.



Also how can you judge a game by a trailer? seriously?

And saying that because the reapers are attacking earth that the game is going to be set in a compressed time frame is rubbish. They might not start attacking earth till the final stages of the game, we dont know yet because theres been next to nothing in details released about the game yet.

you've judged this game far to early mate.

[Annihilator27]

You come back from a year hiatus to trash ME again? lol

[patocerda]

I'd say everyone to stop posting on this stupid "try to get attention" thread. We get a couple of these everyday, and you are just feeding him...

Move along.

[Jeff_Shepard18]

*tsk* *tsk* *tsk*



What a waste of time, you can never make an applicable discrepancy based on opinions , although you are entitled to your own. But like N7Infernox said, this forum is not for complaining, especially about a game that hasn't even been released yet. Do us all a favor and stop droning please, the last thing we need is another troll.

[Gatt9]

StokedUp wrote...

i cant believe this you think mass effect 3 is going to be Sh*t. BioWare will definitely not mess this up, they've possibly made one of the best franchises ever made with mass effect and they will make sure that this final game in shepards story is not a flop.

Also how can you judge a game by a trailer? seriously?
And saying that because the reapers are attacking earth that the game is going to be set in a compressed time frame is rubbish. They might not start attacking earth till the final stages of the game, we dont know yet because theres been next to nothing in details released about the game yet.
you've judged this game far to early mate.

Just for the record,  what they did was genre-shift ME2 into a really crappy Shooter,  alienating more than a few people.  It's highly unlikely ME3 will do well,  especially since they didn't learn their lesson from ME2.

I doubt Mass Effect will be remembered as anything more than another franchise that changed directions for no apparent reason for the worse.  X-com and Warlords come to mind as examples.  I'd imagine it'll even be held up as an example of how yet another gaming fad went horribly wrong like the FMV debacle of the mid-90's,  or the RTS debacle of the late 90's/early 00's.

[CroGamer002]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

10 bucks say you're wrong.

Make that 100 Euros!

Modifié par Mesina2, 23 février 2011 - 09:49 .

[CroGamer002]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...

Guide to an instant hot topic on BSN:
Mention one or more of the following:
-Mass Effect 3 will be awesome / suck because...
-Mass Effect 1 is better than/worse than Mass Effect 2 because...
-The VS / any other LI should die
-Tali
Bonus points for covering more than one point in a topic.

You forgot to mention the "paragons/renegades are stupid because..."

Also, conspiracy theories.

... I farted.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

[Whatever42]

Well, if you think it's haters versus fanboys is here, just peak in the DA2 forums. There's blood on the floor there.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 23 février 2011 - 10:03 .

[tomana7]

Trailers don't need to show actual game content, just capture the spirit of the game

that's not the main reason trailers often are not actual game play footage - the trailer is like the box that cereal comes in, the picture on the box is intended to make people want to eat the cereal. It's called marketing, so please do not equate a game trailer with an attempt to capture the spirit of a game ... the truth is, trailers are designed to capture your attention so the maker's of the gamer can maximize their profit once you buy the game - no matter how fun (or un-fun) the game might be.

Modifié par tomana7, 23 février 2011 - 10:07 .

[Impressive Turian]

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Modifié par Pacifien, 24 février 2011 - 01:15 .

[Ty2011]

Usualfool wrote...

1 : An argument from history.  Mass Effect 1 established a franchise.  Mass Effect 2 established a trajectory of "growth."  Mass Effect 3 will most likely follow it.  As Mass Effect 2 was inferior to Mass Effect 1 in all significant ways--and here I mean that Mass Effect 2 had better graphics than the original, but those are insignificant--Mass Effect 3 will also be inferior.  (An abreviated exposition: smaller and fewer environments, restrictive story structure, no meaningful customization options, heat sinks....)

2 : An argument from analogy.  The Trailer sucked, and if it is indicitatie then the game will as well.  Let me unpack this.  In Mass Effect 3 the Reapers are attacking earth.  They're not ABOUT to attack; they are attacking.  First, we see that they are ineffectual; time has apparently taken away their civilization destruction skills so that they can be effectively hindered by a sniper.  Second, we realize that one of two things must happen: either the entire third game must occupy an incredibly compressed time frame, or the Reapers are not a serious threat.  If it is the former, then the third game will be even smaller and more restrictive than the second.  If it is the latter, then it is anticlimactic and ultimately irrelevant.

I'm no expert but according to the Prothean beacon on Ilos it took the Reapers centuries to completely wipe them out. So yes they are a serious threat but genocide is still a long process no matter what. it could also be argued that Shepard really stunted their growth.

And don't be one of those boring people trying to look cool saying the first one of this was better than the rest... A birth of an idea is always going to be incredible and with the nostalgia attatched Me1 may seem like the best. But what do you expect? Every time a new chapter is opened in anything.. movies, music, video games.. fans will be gained and fans will be lost. But it doesn't mean any continuation to a story has to "suck". It is what it is. So not everyone has to think like you do. Please don't be elitist about it.

[Ty2011]

Usualfool wrote...

1 : An argument from history.  Mass Effect 1 established a franchise.  Mass Effect 2 established a trajectory of "growth."  Mass Effect 3 will most likely follow it.  As Mass Effect 2 was inferior to Mass Effect 1 in all significant ways--and here I mean that Mass Effect 2 had better graphics than the original, but those are insignificant--Mass Effect 3 will also be inferior.  (An abreviated exposition: smaller and fewer environments, restrictive story structure, no meaningful customization options, heat sinks....)

2 : An argument from analogy.  The Trailer sucked, and if it is indicitatie then the game will as well.  Let me unpack this.  In Mass Effect 3 the Reapers are attacking earth.  They're not ABOUT to attack; they are attacking.  First, we see that they are ineffectual; time has apparently taken away their civilization destruction skills so that they can be effectively hindered by a sniper.  Second, we realize that one of two things must happen: either the entire third game must occupy an incredibly compressed time frame, or the Reapers are not a serious threat.  If it is the former, then the third game will be even smaller and more restrictive than the second.  If it is the latter, then it is anticlimactic and ultimately irrelevant.

I'm no expert but according to the Prothean beacon on Ilos it took the Reapers centuries to completely wipe them out. So yes they are a serious threat but genocide is still a long process no matter what, it could also be argued that Shepard really stunted their growth. 

And don't be one of those boring people trying to look cool saying the first one of this was better than the rest... A birth of an idea is always going to be incredible and with the nostalgia attatched Me1 may seem like the best. But what do you expect? Every time a new chapter is opened in anything.. movies, music, video games.. fans will be gained and fans will be lost. But it doesn't mean any continuation to a story has to "suck". It is what it is. So not everyone has to think like you do. Please don't be elitist about it.

[Da_Lion_Man]

^Wow nice pic there.

[Whatever42]

Now that's how you derail a pointless thread.

[Tasuru]

My preorder will disagree with you OP.

PS: Glad to know that the moderators are on the ball.

Modifié par Tasuru, 23 février 2011 - 11:25 .

[RunicDragons]

ARE YOU INSANE?!

I bet that Mass Effect 3 will be the best Mass Effect game...

They have made two games and they are really listening to what people want and what they don't want..

So they can't possibly fail Mass Effect 3...

[RunicDragons]

Usualfool wrote...

1 : An argument from history.  Mass Effect 1 established a franchise.  Mass Effect 2 established a trajectory of "growth."  Mass Effect 3 will most likely follow it.  As Mass Effect 2 was inferior to Mass Effect 1 in all significant ways--and here I mean that Mass Effect 2 had better graphics than the original, but those are insignificant--Mass Effect 3 will also be inferior.  (An abreviated exposition: smaller and fewer environments, restrictive story structure, no meaningful customization options, heat sinks....)

2 : An argument from analogy.  The Trailer sucked, and if it is indicitatie then the game will as well.  Let me unpack this.  In Mass Effect 3 the Reapers are attacking earth.  They're not ABOUT to attack; they are attacking.  First, we see that they are ineffectual; time has apparently taken away their civilization destruction skills so that they can be effectively hindered by a sniper.  Second, we realize that one of two things must happen: either the entire third game must occupy an incredibly compressed time frame, or the Reapers are not a serious threat.  If it is the former, then the third game will be even smaller and more restrictive than the second.  If it is the latter, then it is anticlimactic and ultimately irrelevant.

About the trailer....
This is just a trailer.. And i am pretty sure that the game will not just occur on Earth... Maybe at the end of the game or some... But the game will mostly take part all around the Galaxy..

[billybobjones]

Gatt9 wrote...

StokedUp wrote...

i cant believe this you think mass effect 3 is going to be Sh*t. BioWare will definitely not mess this up, they've possibly made one of the best franchises ever made with mass effect and they will make sure that this final game in shepards story is not a flop.

Also how can you judge a game by a trailer? seriously?
And saying that because the reapers are attacking earth that the game is going to be set in a compressed time frame is rubbish. They might not start attacking earth till the final stages of the game, we dont know yet because theres been next to nothing in details released about the game yet.
you've judged this game far to early mate.

Just for the record,  what they did was genre-shift ME2 into a really crappy Shooter,  alienating more than a few people.  It's highly unlikely ME3 will do well,  especially since they didn't learn their lesson from ME2.

I doubt Mass Effect will be remembered as anything more than another franchise that changed directions for no apparent reason for the worse.  X-com and Warlords come to mind as examples.  I'd imagine it'll even be held up as an example of how yet another gaming fad went horribly wrong like the FMV debacle of the mid-90's,  or the RTS debacle of the late 90's/early 00's.

I'm sure. That's why it set a record for game of the year awards, right? That's why its one of the highest rated games of all time, right? Oh wait, don't tell me, bioware and ea bought them all out. Nothing like crying "conspiracy!" to legitimize your argument!

Heck, even this site, which is notorious for being picky and hard to please, voted that Mass Effect 2 was better than Mass Effect 1.

So if the critics liked it more, the players liked it more, and it sold better....why, then that means...

Oh right. It means that all the people bleating on about how Mass Effect 1 was better in every way are a tiny vocal minority.

[BatarianBob]

Gatt9 wrote...
Just for the record,  what they did was genre-shift ME2 into a really crappy Shooter,

ME1 was a shooter.  ME2 was a shooter.  There was no genre-shift.

It's interesting how important Mass Effect 1 is to people who apparently never played it.

[The Spamming Troll]

Metroidbum wrote...

Heck, even this site, which is notorious for being picky and hard to please, voted that Mass Effect 2 was better than Mass Effect 1.

So if the critics liked it more, the players liked it more, and it sold better....why, then that means...

Oh right. It means that all the people bleating on about how Mass Effect 1 was better in every way are a tiny vocal minority.

i dont see it that way at all. theres plenty of people who apreciate ME1 more then ME2. id say it couldnt be any closser then 50/50.

personally i dont think theres been a game ive apreciated moreso then ME1. that game blew my mind. soundtrack, story, biotics, banging blue aliens, WTF i love it. on the other hand ME2 didnt give me much at all. as a matter of fact it sortof took some things away.

[Greatsultan]

well, OP nick explains everything

[Elvis_Shepard]

In what way? Saren was a great and tragic antagonist, but Mass Effect 2's story was much more focused and emotional.

There was more LOLWTF moments in Mass Effect 1, and learning about everything for the first time awesome, but I still preferred 2's story.

edit: lulz I completely quoted the wrong post.

Modifié par Elvis_Shepard, 24 février 2011 - 01:29 .

[Voods07]

I'm not sure the OP even played ME 1 or 2.

[Whatever42]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

Metroidbum wrote...

Heck, even this site, which is notorious for being picky and hard to please, voted that Mass Effect 2 was better than Mass Effect 1.

So if the critics liked it more, the players liked it more, and it sold better....why, then that means...

Oh right. It means that all the people bleating on about how Mass Effect 1 was better in every way are a tiny vocal minority.

i dont see it that way at all. theres plenty of people who apreciate ME1 more then ME2. id say it couldnt be any closser then 50/50.

personally i dont think theres been a game ive apreciated moreso then ME1. that game blew my mind. soundtrack, story, biotics, banging blue aliens, WTF i love it. on the other hand ME2 didnt give me much at all. as a matter of fact it sortof took some things away.

Doesn't matter. As long as both sides can respect each other's POV. I like ME2 better overall but break it down by story, pacing, characters, gameplay, villains, music, etc. and I go back and forth.

90% of us agree about what we would like to see in ME3: strong characters, more personalization, epic story, as much continuity as they can possible pull off, more party banter, deeper skill trees, more exploration etc.

Most of the debate around here is about stupid stuff like inventory and heat sinks and whether the lousy inventory system in ME1 is better than the locker system in ME2. The way some of the debates go, you'd think we wanted something completely in ME3, but we don't.