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[Agaroth]

as someone above me said: if you have to much expectations to any product, you porably will end up being let down.



I think that people will get hung up on the details they dont like and then vote the game down. this WILL happen, as it has with all games that have been released. I think people need to see the whole picture and then say if they like the game or not. but this is seldom the case.



is Dragon Age the second comming of christ? no it is not. is it BG3? no its not.

is it a good storydriven game? yes i think it will be, and thats what counts in my book. if the combat and the skillsystem isnt the best in the world, i dont care, as long as it isnt gamebreaking. and Biowares track record is quite good when it comes to RPG's, so i'm not fuzzed really. i know it will have entertainment value and thats what matters.



in the end it all comes down to what you expect from a RPG title. and if you can see through some of the mistakes, i'm sure you wont be disapointed with Dragon age =)

[Punahedan]

Hype, or expectations? Most games never live up to their "hype" and few people fall for hype these days. I'd say expectations have been raised more than hype, mostly because of how long this project has been underway. It's been quiet until the last...year, maybe? The hype machine got started about a year ago. The expectations have been pretty high since before that.



The last few weeks, the only thing getting higher is anticipation and boredness and irritation at lack of DAO (and on trying to get as much work done as possible in order to have more free time later, on my part).



I won't lie, I've got obscenely high expectations that no game without superawesomesexy holographic advanced AI technology would be able to live up to. But I also have my realistic little shoulder-sitter reminding me and keeping me in check. The first time I'll play, I'll be in awe, and that's not a bad thing. It's good to experience something for the first time and not pass judgment. The second time, however, my eyes and ears will be more peeled. Critical thinking will ensue. Such is the way of life.

[NtenseGamer]

Ingrimm22 wrote...

It's a little odd that you first bragg about how hardcore of an RPG-Geek you are, while revealing that you didn't even bother to read a little into the class-diversion in Dragons Age. I mean "three classes"? They're the starter classes, just for your info.

Feel free to educate me.

[Ryu-Eji]

I never saw EA purchasing BioWare as a bad thing. EA's moolah will only help BioWare expand and grow. Dragon Age is already shaping up to be something PC gamers can rejoice to, and the good folks at BioWare have already shown their dedication to it's fans with not only DA, but with the toolset they're releasing. So let's all put on a happy face and be glad BioWare has supported PC gamers so diligently since their inception.

[NtenseGamer]

Once again excellent posts I've learned a lot reading your thoughts.

[Naelven]

NtenseGamer wrote...

Ingrimm22 wrote...

It's a little odd that you first bragg about how hardcore of an RPG-Geek you are, while revealing that you didn't even bother to read a little into the class-diversion in Dragons Age. I mean "three classes"? They're the starter classes, just for your info.

Feel free to educate me.

I believe Ingrimm is referring to specializations

[lawsie100]

very few games live up to the hype. You can look forward to a game as much as you want but the dark reality is that once you start playing it, you will realise very soon that its not as good as you had hoped for.



Reminds me of the time i read great expectations, that was not what i hoped for either.

[JEBesh]

Ingrimm22 wrote...

It's a little odd that you first bragg about how hardcore of an RPG-Geek you are, while revealing that you didn't even bother to read a little into the class-diversion in Dragons Age. I mean "three classes"? They're the starter classes, just for your info.

Not just that, but he said "Rouge" was one of the classes. <_<

[lawsie100]

JEBesh wrote...

Ingrimm22 wrote...

It's a little odd that you first bragg about how hardcore of an RPG-Geek you are, while revealing that you didn't even bother to read a little into the class-diversion in Dragons Age. I mean "three classes"? They're the starter classes, just for your info.

Not just that, but he said "Rouge" was one of the classes. <_<

i bet he is left rouged faced after that.

[NtenseGamer]

lawsie100 wrote...

JEBesh wrote...

Ingrimm22 wrote...

It's a little odd that you first bragg about how hardcore of an RPG-Geek you are, while revealing that you didn't even bother to read a little into the class-diversion in Dragons Age. I mean "three classes"? They're the starter classes, just for your info.

Not just that, but he said "Rouge" was one of the classes. <_<

i bet he is left rouged faced after that.

I blame good single malt scotch for my spelling problems. Rogue is what I meant but let me say this until the world became so PC they were know as Thieves. That was back in the day though.

[Mistersunshine]

It's going to be better than the hype!

[Sabriana]

NtenseGamer wrote...

I blame good single malt scotch for my spelling problems. Rogue is what I meant but let me say this until the world became so PC they were know as Thieves. That was back in the day though.

Single malt scotch FTW. Good times.

[Maria Caliban]

I haven't noticed much hype.

I suppose the question is 'what if it's only a good game instead of the impossibly ideal that I've imposed on this game?'

Last time checked, I'm fine with only a good game.

[RooksBailey]

I'm a bit worried...not because of anything to do with the game, but because 2009 has been one of the worst years for gaming in a long time. One big title after another has thoroughly disappointed me. Come to think of it, the only 2009 title that exceeded my expectations was IronClad's expansion for Sins of a Solar Empire (Entrenchment). Otherwise, it's been a series of games that have fallen flat as far as I'm concerned (and trust me, I'm not picky!).

Still, I am hopeful for this game because of the BW reputation. But if not...it's back to my beloved chess. 

Modifié par RooksBailey, 28 octobre 2009 - 01:01 .

[Nekator]

Athnamos wrote...

"Hope is the first step to dissapointment"

True, in fact i´m kinda sure, that some people are so hyped for this game, they will be dissapointed, no matter what. I just hope, that i´m not in this category

[NtenseGamer]

Naelven wrote...

NtenseGamer wrote...

Ingrimm22 wrote...

It's a little odd that you first bragg about how hardcore of an RPG-Geek you are, while revealing that you didn't even bother to read a little into the class-diversion in Dragons Age. I mean "three classes"? They're the starter classes, just for your info.

Feel free to educate me.

I believe Ingrimm is referring to specializations

With a 4 person party I'm thinking you better not specialize too much. You are going to need a tank, you are going to need a Rogue (Thief) for those duties unless you want to miss out on opening chests, you are going to need a damage dealer (Elemental/Shadow Mage) and you are going to need a healer unless that class has been overlooked (please tell me a healer/buffer is needed if not the old school comparisons stop now and console kids win out), you are talking about a fantasy game staple.

[JEBesh]

NtenseGamer wrote...

With a 4 person party I'm thinking you better not specialize too much. You are going to need a tank, you are going to need a Rogue (Thief) for those duties unless you want to miss out on opening chests, you are going to need a damage dealer (Elemental/Shadow Mage) and you are going to need a healer unless that class has been overlooked (please tell me a healer/buffer is needed if not the old school comparisons stop now and console kids win out), you are talking about a fantasy game staple.

Specializing does not replace your core class abilities. You can kindly ****** off with the condescension, though.

Modifié par JEBesh, 28 octobre 2009 - 01:11 .

[elemental150]

I am hoping that the specializations add a lot of differences between the classes. For example I am hoping that the assassin specialization for the rogue and the ranger specialization for the rogue will play very differently after developing them some....



I can understand why you worry about the lack of races and the lack of classes...but i think that it is more important for what is offered to be well developed and feel complete and satisfying then for there to be a lot of selection with little difference between them....



I also resent people in general comparing RPGs to D&D.....yes I understand that it was and most likely still is the most popular but by no means is it the standard for character progression and the way (rules and mechanics) RPGs should run......While you seem to have played a lot of table top (from what I gather mainly D&D) I have played more kinds of RPGs then I can even remember....and while I do like the 2nd AD&D rules and some what the 3rd edition as well.....if I had to say the best rule set and character progression I have ever encounter was in the World of Darkness games.....but with the best RPG I have ever played being a home brew where everything was determined by a roll of a d10 and a card drawn from a deck

[NtenseGamer]

JEBesh wrote...

. You can kindly ****** off with the condescension, though.

It's all good my friend we are all friends here just debating a video game if you are that emotionally attached to it already before it has even released you may what to go back to your WOW forum or your therapist  I'm cool either way.

Modifié par NtenseGamer, 28 octobre 2009 - 01:37 .

[JEBesh]

NtenseGamer wrote...

It's all good my friend we are all friends here just debating a video game if you are that emotionally attached to it already before it has even released you make what to go go back to your WOW forum or your therapist  I'm cool either way.

Emotionally attached to the game? I'm not sure what my remark had to do with the game, but I'll be sure to go back to the WoW forums once I get around to ever playing it. What are you implying about that community within the PC gamers, though?

[Maria Caliban]

NtenseGamer wrote...

With a 4 person party I'm thinking you better not specialize too much. You are going to need a tank, you are going to need a Rogue (Thief) for those duties unless you want to miss out on opening chests, you are going to need a damage dealer (Elemental/Shadow Mage) and you are going to need a healer unless that class has been overlooked (please tell me a healer/buffer is needed if not the old school comparisons stop now and console kids win out), you are talking about a fantasy game staple.

Specializations to not remove a class' ability to perform its primary role, but enhances it. The majority of the time, you'll want to specialize, unless you have a very talent intensive build in mind.

For instance, a regular healer is good, but the spirit healer specialization is better. A rogue can do damage, but with the bard specialization, they can also increase the damage of their allies.

[NtenseGamer]

Look JeBesh i thinking a yard stick is the only way to settle our debate and trust me you aint winning there so I will admit defeat to you on this forum in front of everyone, are you happy now.



JEBesh has bested me.

[Korgaah]

NtenseGamer wrote...

Look JeBesh i thinking a yard stick is the only way to settle our debate and trust me you aint winning there...

My E-PENIS is MUCH BIGGER THAN YOURS

[JEBesh]

NtenseGamer wrote...

Look JeBesh i thinking a yard stick is the only way to settle our debate and trust me you aint winning there so I will admit defeat to you on this forum in front of everyone, are you happy now.

JEBesh has bested me.

Not sure what that was about, but sure. You win the "debate" we were apparently having by saying I win. Now everyone can be happy.

[Darkrhayne]

The community will rise to the occasion and put out some great mods. The updates to the toolset look very nice so I'm certain that over time people will fix and enhancement many things about the game.