Sorry Mike. But it is.
Whenever a short-range melee attack is triggered when the target isn't in range, the character will shuffle into position just like in DAO. Except, because the combat moves so much more quickly, this is actually a bigger problem than it was in DAO, because now by the time the character finally gets into position the entire state of the battle has changed.
The shuffle is still there.
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Sylvius the Mad
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:33
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It's even better if you target a moving enemy. My Rogue Hawke was trying to follow her target, but after every spectacular cartwheel, the enemy was just out of range. The end effect was that instead of shuffling, she was doing a series of cartwheels.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:33
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Haha, yes this is very true. So annoyingly stupid and frustrating to see it happening in Dragon Age II as well!
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:34
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I also encountered this.
This isn't awesome and I didn't unpress a button to make it happen.
EDIT: although this only happened once with Carverfrom four playthroughs.
This isn't awesome and I didn't unpress a button to make it happen.
EDIT: although this only happened once with Carverfrom four playthroughs.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:34
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I never once felt like it was. When I said attack that guy, they charged and attack. My warriors didn't shuffle around until they found a good position, and then start a-whacking. They hit when I told them to.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:35
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Sorry Mike. But it is.
Whenever a short-range melee attack is triggered when the target isn't in range, the character will shuffle into position just like in DAO. Except, because the combat moves so much more quickly, this is actually a bigger problem than it was in DAO, because now by the time the character finally gets into position the entire state of the battle has changed.
Thank you for posting this I thought I was seeing things.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:35
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grregg wrote...
It's even better if you target a moving enemy. My Rogue Hawke was trying to follow her target, but after every spectacular cartwheel, the enemy was just out of range. The end effect was that instead of shuffling, she was doing a series of cartwheels.
Oh man, that sounds pretty bad.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:36
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The shuffle is definitely there when the enemy is far away, out of line of sight, or blocked by other enemies. Its still better than origins though, but it shouldn't be there. Its bad pathing AI.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:37
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I have not seen the auto-attack cause the shuffle. Only activated abilities. And I've also only seen it where the selected character doesn't have an unobstructed path to the target.Saibh wrote...
I never once felt like it was. When I said attack that guy, they charged and attack.
It happens most in crowds, and it happens a lot if you tend not to target the nearest enemy.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:37
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I will PROVE this with ten youtube videos if I have to. Pray that the present day version of DAII has fixed this (because the demo isn't up to date).
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:38
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But it's a responsive shuffle, isn't it? So when you shuffle, something awesome happens.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:39
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Guess there's bonuses for controlling the game like an action game.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:40
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grregg wrote...
It's even better if you target a moving enemy. My Rogue Hawke was trying to follow her target, but after every spectacular cartwheel, the enemy was just out of range. The end effect was that instead of shuffling, she was doing a series of cartwheels.
The difference is that you aren't attacking when you "shuffle" in DA:O.
In DA2, when a warrior/rogue leaps/flips/rushes towards an enemy from a regular attack, they take damage.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:41
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When I hit the attack button out of range my character doesn't shuffle. He just stands there waving his weapon around. Even more annoying than the shuffle because I can't move him again until the animation completes.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:41
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Auto-attacks don't cause the slow run-up, abilities do. Solution: only use abilities when you've arrived at your target destination via auto-attack travel.
(though warriors seem to be more prone to this than rogues, as their combat travel is more a run-rush thing. Rogues just butterfly kick themselves over to victory.)
(though warriors seem to be more prone to this than rogues, as their combat travel is more a run-rush thing. Rogues just butterfly kick themselves over to victory.)
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:41
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
Sorry Mike. But it is.
Whenever a short-range melee attack is triggered when the target isn't in range, the character will shuffle into position just like in DAO. Except, because the combat moves so much more quickly, this is actually a bigger problem than it was in DAO, because now by the time the character finally gets into position the entire state of the battle has changed.
DA2 is horrible; the WItcher 2 is so much better.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:43
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AngelicMachinery wrote...
Guess there's bonuses for controlling the game like an action game.
It just tries to be an action game, it's still the good old party based cRPG turned up to eleven, trying to look very cool with added hack&slash option for the consoles.
The Gothic series for example, now that's a real action-RPG.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:44
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Yeah its somewhat annoying.
One thing that annoys me aswell is that if tell it to do a autoattack it will use some fancy charge or somersault to get within range fast. But if que something like explosive strike at a distance it will walk all the way instead of that "fast" travel
One thing that annoys me aswell is that if tell it to do a autoattack it will use some fancy charge or somersault to get within range fast. But if que something like explosive strike at a distance it will walk all the way instead of that "fast" travel
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:45
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RedRoo wrote...
Auto-attacks don't cause the slow run-up, abilities do. Solution: only use abilities when you've arrived at your target destination via auto-attack travel.
(though warriors seem to be more prone to this than rogues, as their combat travel is more a run-rush thing. Rogues just butterfly kick themselves over to victory.)
Yeah, I didn't notice the shuffle, myself, but I use R to switch targets and THEN use abilities, so I was doing this without noticing it.
One thing I did notice (although I may have been mistaken) is that some of the rogue archery abilities don't have the same range as your regular old bow, so you'll be shooting away, use an ability, and instead of just using the ability the rogue will run half the length of the combat area in order to get into range.
It's a farkin' bow. The range doesn't change.
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Posté 23 février 2011 - 07:47
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Khayness wrote...
AngelicMachinery wrote...
Guess there's bonuses for controlling the game like an action game.
It just tries to be an action game, it's still the good old party based cRPG turned up to eleven, trying to look very cool with added hack&slash option for the consoles.
The Gothic series for example, now that's a real action-RPG.
Never played the gothic series, always wanted too though.
