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[HolyJellyfish]

colejossart wrote...

Gerudan wrote...

The trailers are still full of Malehawkes, but the community wanted to see Femhawke a bit more and Bioware listened.

Well that's a change in and of itself lol.  I remember in the days before the release of ME2 a lot of people wanted to see FemShep, but she was largely unrepresented.  It's just a little depressing that all I want to see is a demo run of a MaleHawke warrior...

Yeah. ME2 is not DA2, thank god. I love the game, but they REALLY need to update their PR team if they want to expand their audience outside of frat boy realm. For the most part, a lot of their interviews talk about how they envision a straight male Shepard and everything else is secondary (Female included). Steams me up and just makes me angry. I really hope they don't actually believe this philosophy is what makes ME2 so popular. Because it isn't. Its the story. Not the tom jerkery.

I'm really crossing my fingers and HOPING DA2 receives some outstanding sales and fantastic numbers involving female gamers after pushing all these Demos of Lady Hawke. If feedback for Lady Hawke continues to be positive, as is suggested by blogs like Kotaku, it could influence the way other game companies pay attention to lady gamers.

I mean, no pressure. But the DA2 team is one of the first whose actually trying a bit more variety, even though they started with a "I AM A BEARDED MAN" campaign.

[Tecumseh420]

Avalla'ch wrote...

Tecumseh420 wrote...

Lady/femHawke should be canon.

No. And neither should be Lord/DudeHawke. Let's avoid the freaking Mass Effect tragedy shall we?<_<

Mass Effect..............one of the greatest games ever. Tragedy? Hardly. You being a douche? Probable.

[colejossart]

Avalla'ch wrote...

Tecumseh420 wrote...

Lady/femHawke should be canon.

No. And neither should be Lord/DudeHawke. Let's avoid the freaking Mass Effect tragedy shall we?<_<

I don't think that we'll have another tragedy because isn't this the only game that will focus on Hawke?  The ME trilogy is all about Shepard, so the ManShep, FemShep tragedy was unavoidable...

[Dreadstruck]

Tecumseh420 wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...

Tecumseh420 wrote...

Lady/femHawke should be canon.

No. And neither should be Lord/DudeHawke. Let's avoid the freaking Mass Effect tragedy shall we?<_<

Mass Effect..............one of the greatest games ever. Tragedy? Hardly. You being a douche? Probable.

Way to misinterpret my message. Strawman much?

What I meant is that FemShep supposedly got no marketing attention at all, thus people thinking that Sheploo is the 'canon' choice. The game however, was still great.

With DA2, it seems to be an improvement with both genders getting their fair share of attention.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 23 février 2011 - 08:17 .

[colejossart]

PurebredCorn wrote...

colejossart wrote...

Is it me or has MaleHawke been usurped by Lady Hawke?  In most of the latest demos and stuff, all we see is Lady Hawke.  I'm not necessarily complaining, but it is kind of a switch from the earlier trailers that focused on MaleHawke.

*Edited for better political correctness

...and, your point is? I say more please.

Just wondering if anyone else had noticed how strongly Lady Hawke has been supported.

[HolyJellyfish]

colejossart wrote...
Just wondering if anyone else had noticed how strongly Lady Hawke has been supported.

Its not just Bioware, though.

A good chunk of reviewers, gaming blogs, and magazines have been displaying her and prefering her model / character over Male Hawke. Kotaku recently released an article last night about how they prefer to play Lady Hawke.

It maybe because she really is quite a cute default character, and she has a very charming english accent.

[colejossart]

HolyJellyfish wrote...

colejossart wrote...
Just wondering if anyone else had noticed how strongly Lady Hawke has been supported.

Its not just Bioware, though.

A good chunk of reviewers, gaming blogs, and magazines have been displaying her and prefering her model / character over Male Hawke. Kotaku recently released an article last night about how they prefer to play Lady Hawke.

It maybe because she really is quite a cute default character, and she has a very charming english accent.

You're right.  It seems that most of the reviewers prefer Lady Hawke, but I know I'm going to play MaleHawke because, well I'm male lol.

[Mana Marrow]

I'm usually one to completely overlook any PC in games which contradict my own (being male) but LadyHawke has a certain charm about her this time around that I like.

[Morning808]

I played her and she is nothing special just like male hawke

Modifié par Morning808, 23 février 2011 - 08:25 .

[El Codge]

Just played the demo through twice - once with each gender.



Ladyhawke is far and away the better of the two. Mr. Hawke sounds a bit too wet / posh for my liking.



Exactly the same as Mass Effect as well - the female Shepherd is far superior to the male one.

[colejossart]

El Codge wrote...

Exactly the same as Mass Effect as well - the female Shepherd is far superior to the male one.

I have to disagree.  I never found any problems with MaleSheps voice.  I never played a FemShep in either game, so I couldn't tell which one is better, but Shep's voice worked just fine in ME.

[El Codge]

colejossart wrote...
I have to disagree.  I never found any problems with MaleSheps voice.  I never played a FemShep in either game, so I couldn't tell which one is better, but Shep's voice worked just fine in ME.

MaleShep was fine. FemShep's was better acted though.

DA2 is not out for another week or so, so give yourself an absolute treat and have a quick run through ME or ME2 with Femshep. She adds a lot more colour to the conversations.

[Dreadstruck]

El Codge wrote...

colejossart wrote...
I have to disagree.  I never found any problems with MaleSheps voice.  I never played a FemShep in either game, so I couldn't tell which one is better, but Shep's voice worked just fine in ME.

MaleShep was fine. FemShep's was better acted though.

DA2 is not out for another week or so, so give yourself an absolute treat and have a quick run through ME or ME2 with Femshep. She adds a lot more colour to the conversations.

This is a highly subjective matter. I didn't liked her in ME1 with the whole James Kirk style of overreacting.
Not saying that Meer sounds any better, but his voicework, while sometimes sounding off a bit monotone, seemed more natural to me. Without the heavy smoker exaggerations.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 23 février 2011 - 08:37 .

[Felene]

Thanks to the new character creation system, you see all of them instead just one at the time.

[Inzhuna]

This is a very welcome change. Lady Hawke is definitely not 'usurping' Male Hawke, she is catching up.

[Quinnzel]

Meh, I haven't really taken notice of FemHawke/LadyHawke/ShuutupWomanGetOnMyHawke all that much, although that probably derives from my complete and utter lack of interest in playing her.



Good to see them showing her off though, 'twas quite hairy a few months back when all her fans screamed/pleaded/prayed for some footage of her.

[RPGamer13]

Jennifer Hale is legendary and is very good at what she does, she's been voice acting since I was a little kid. Maybe if they had Steve Blum voice Male Shep... He would have brought a lot more personality to the character.



Anyway, Miss Marian Hawke: She's witty, charming, and reminds me kind of the female hero in Fable III for some reason in her appearance. I also love her expressions.



But Mr Hawke has something over Male Shep: I believe he is better voice acted even though it seems the voice for Miss Marian Hawke is still a cut above for me.





Oh, and I found this page on the meaning of "cut of your jib": http://www.phrases.o...f-your-jib.html

[El Codge]

Avalla'ch wrote...

This is a highly subjective matter. I didn't liked her in ME1 with the whole James Kirk style of overreacting.
Not saying that Meer sounds any better, but his voicework, while sometimes sounding off a bit monotone, seemed more natural to me. Without the heavy smoker exaggerations.

Haha, yeah, it's completely subjective.

Opposing you viewpoint, I though Femshep had a bit of spark and MaleShep was a bit flat, bordering on blunt sometimes. I did find it easier making renegade choices with MaleShep though.

Still, both were good enough to make we want to play through the game a good number of times. I must have sunk 100+ hours into each installment. I can easily see DA2 doing the same.

[Arandomindividual]

DUDESHEPARD = MASS EFFECT I, II and III

LADY HAWKE = DRAGON AGE II



Sounds fair!

[Gill Kaiser]

It's Lady Hawke. Honestly, you people.

Anyway, I think that Lady Hawke's been in more demos recently because the devs want to show her off. They seem at least as proud of her model and her voice actress as they are about those of Mike Hawke, yet the marketing strategy hasn't allowed them to show her very much... until now.

[Potato Cat]

Shepard Lives wrote...

I approve of the change. The ladies are underrepresented in gaming.

I agree wholeheartedly. And let's face it, FemShepherd was way better, even if she did sit like a man. Just wish they'd show us a LITTLE bit more Male Hawke, need to get Vaughn's voice out of my head.

[Never]

Inzhuna wrote...

This is a very welcome change. Lady Hawke is definitely not 'usurping' Male Hawke, she is catching up.

This!

[Gill Kaiser]

El Codge wrote...

Just played the demo through twice - once with each gender.

Ladyhawke is far and away the better of the two. Mr. Hawke sounds a bit too wet / posh for my liking.

Exactly the same as Mass Effect as well - the female Shepherd is far superior to the male one.

I disagree. I find something to like and to dislike about both Shepards, and both Hawkes.

FemShep has a tendency to sound irritated/bored/exasperated every time she speaks. She does the paragon lines the best.

MaleShep sounds a bit more monotone, but he does humourous lines better and is the better Renegade.

From what I've heard of Lady Hawke and Mike Hawke, they're both on par with each other. Some lines are ready differently, but both are equally valid. There's only one line I've noticed one of the actors delivering in a way that I consider superior, and that was Mike Hawke's delivery of one of the Humourous lines.

[Weaverjho]

Getting Milk Hawke more time in the spotlight is certainly a nice thing.