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[Sacred_Fantasy]

Saibh wrote...

...You mean, both games that sell extremely well? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

The sims 1 = 16 million copies.
The Sims 2 = 13 million copies
The Sims 3 =  3.7 million copies

Source: http://en.wikipedia....ing_video_games
Edit source: http://en.wikipedia...._PC_video_games

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 24 février 2011 - 03:34 .

[Saibh]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Saibh wrote...

...You mean, both games that sell extremely well? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

The sims 1 = 16 million copies.
The Sims 2 = 13 million copies
The Sims 3 =  Not listed among the best selling PC games.

Source: http://en.wikipedia....ing_video_games

You realize 1 and 2 are years and years older, right? With more expansions?

EDIT: And the data you listed is a year and a half old, and posted two months after the game came out.

Modifié par Saibh, 24 février 2011 - 03:36 .

[coolide]

Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source. One day, my friends and I were really bored, so we edited a bunch of Wikipedia articles with misinformation. Some of those changes still exist today.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Saibh wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Saibh wrote...

...You mean, both games that sell extremely well? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

The sims 1 = 16 million copies.
The Sims 2 = 13 million copies
The Sims 3 =  Not listed among the best selling PC games.

Source: http://en.wikipedia....ing_video_games

You realize 1 and 2 are years and years older, right? With more expanions?

Yet the more advance and improve The Sim 3 fall low to 3.7 millions copies? Hmmm,,,
Something is wrong?

[Saibh]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Yet the more advance and improve The Sim 3 fall low to 3.7 millions copies? Hmmm,,,
Something is wrong?

Read again, smartypants.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

coolide wrote...

Wikipedia isn't the most reliable source. One day, my friends and I were really bored, so we edited a bunch of Wikipedia articles with misinformation. Some of those changes still exist today.

They certainly look correct with Dragon Age origin 3.2 million copies. Well of course we know it's should be more than that by now.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Saibh wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Yet the more advance and improve The Sim 3 fall low to 3.7 millions copies? Hmmm,,,
Something is wrong?

Read again, smartypants.

Expansion is not an argument here. We are dealing with sales figure. 

[Bryy_Miller]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Yet the more advance and improve The Sim 3 fall low to 3.7 millions copies? Hmmm,,,
Something is wrong?

Read again, smartypants.

Expansion is not an argument here. We are dealing with sales figure. 

How do expansions not figure into sales? They were sold, right?

[Saibh]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Expansion is not an argument here. We are dealing with sales figure. 

You are taking information that is a year and a half old, that was given to use two months after the game was released.

That is incredibly biased numbers you have.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Yet the more advance and improve The Sim 3 fall low to 3.7 millions copies? Hmmm,,,
Something is wrong?

Read again, smartypants.

Expansion is not an argument here. We are dealing with sales figure. 

How do expansions not figure into sales? They were sold, right?

And I thought you're more interested on the gaming reality ?

[Sylvianus]

What this poll ? I could vote twice I kept my pre-order.
Or there is a topic exactly like that somewhere.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 24 février 2011 - 03:49 .

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Saibh wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Expansion is not an argument here. We are dealing with sales figure. 

You are taking information that is a year and a half old, that was given to use two months after the game was released.

That is incredibly biased numbers you have.

Then let's calculate how long it's take for The Sim 3, 3.7 million copies to rise to 16 million copies? 100 years?

[Bryy_Miller]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Yet the more advance and improve The Sim 3 fall low to 3.7 millions copies? Hmmm,,,
Something is wrong?

Read again, smartypants.

Expansion is not an argument here. We are dealing with sales figure. 

How do expansions not figure into sales? They were sold, right?

And I thought you're more interested on the gaming reality ?

I'm interested in reality.

And the reality is that sales equals money, which makes industry go 'round. Not Good Feelings and Happy Thoughts. 

Your initial argument was that sales are meaningless. When that's how more games get made. 

Of course, this would all go smoother if you would stop responding to us with your version of what we wrote. Otherwise, I have no interest in continuing this facade with you.

[Saibh]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Expansion is not an argument here. We are dealing with sales figure. 

You are taking information that is a year and a half old, that was given to use two months after the game was released.

That is incredibly biased numbers you have.

Then let's calculate how long it's take for The Sim 3, 3.7 million copies to rise to 16 million copies? 100 years?

Really?

You really want to?

It won't end well for you.

Okay...over two months, it sold 3.7 million copies. Half (for one month) is 1.85. It has been twenty months since it was released. 1.85(19) is...35.15.

So, according to your own logic, it's already outsold Sims 1 and 2.

Is this accurate sales figures? Not at all. But you wanted to play the game.

EDIT: Oh, and for perspective, 3.7 is more than both the PS3 and 360 versions of DAII sold, as of right now.

Modifié par Saibh, 24 février 2011 - 03:58 .

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

I'm interested in reality.

And the reality is that sales equals money, which makes industry go 'round. Not Good Feelings and Happy Thoughts. 

Your initial argument was that sales are meaningless. When that's how more games get made. 

Of course, this would all go smoother if you would stop responding to us with your version of what we wrote. Otherwise, I have no interest in continuing this facade with you.

So which one are you? The industry or the gamer?
Do you represent the industry or the interest of player?

[tlantl]

after playing the demo I decided to get the game. I am going to wait a while though I need to upgrade my pc a little, my power supply is too weak to power my video card.

[Bryy_Miller]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

I'm interested in reality.

And the reality is that sales equals money, which makes industry go 'round. Not Good Feelings and Happy Thoughts. 

Your initial argument was that sales are meaningless. When that's how more games get made. 

Of course, this would all go smoother if you would stop responding to us with your version of what we wrote. Otherwise, I have no interest in continuing this facade with you.

So which one are you? The industry or the gamer?
Do you represent the industry or the interest of player?

What does the "interest of the player" have to do with how much money a game makes, besides the fact that they bought it? In fact, what does this even have to do with Dragon Age 2, or its demo? 

[Arllekin]

Keep pre-order

[Bryy_Miller]

Oh yeah. By the way. I did that, too.

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Saibh wrote...

Really?

You really want to?

It won't end well for you.

Okay...over two months, it sold 3.7 million copies. Half (for one month) is 1.85. It has been twenty months since it was released. 1.85(19) is...35.15.

So, according to your own logic, it's already outsold Sims 1 and 2.

Is this accurate sales figures? Not at all. But you wanted to play the game.

Here allow me to link you 2010 best selling video games of the year.
http://n4g.com/news/...o-games-of-2010

The Sim 3 isn't listed there. Hmmm doesn't look like it sold 1.85 million copies per half month anymore. You are right, the sale figure is inaccurate. So do you still believe it will outsold sims 1 and 2?  Most important question is do you believe upcoming DA3 will outsold DA2?

I don't know about you but it's look doubtful.  



 

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 24 février 2011 - 04:45 .

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

I'm interested in reality.

And the reality is that sales equals money, which makes industry go 'round. Not Good Feelings and Happy Thoughts. 

Your initial argument was that sales are meaningless. When that's how more games get made. 

Of course, this would all go smoother if you would stop responding to us with your version of what we wrote. Otherwise, I have no interest in continuing this facade with you.

So which one are you? The industry or the gamer?
Do you represent the industry or the interest of player?

What does the "interest of the player" have to do with how much money a game makes, besides the fact that they bought it? In fact, what does this even have to do with Dragon Age 2, or its demo? 

The real question is what does that have to do with you backing them blindly?
Why do you care if this player express their displeasure with the game? I don't see you're helping fellow player here.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 24 février 2011 - 04:40 .

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Edit: Ops sorry . Double post 

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 24 février 2011 - 04:44 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

All I get from this thread is that apparently the Sims 3 sucks

[Saibh]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

The Sim 3 isn't listed there. Hmmm doesn't look like it sold 1.85 million copies per half month anymore. You are right, the sale figure is inaccurate. So do you still believe it will outsold sims 1 and 2?

1. You listed sales for 2010. Sims 3 was released 2009.
2. It doesn't list PC games anyway, as well as only listing US sales figures.
3. Sims 1 has been out eleven years. Sims 2 has been out for seven.
4. It's not about outselling now, because it's been out for only a year and a half. It's that it is doing just as well--if not better--comparitively.

Most important question is do you believe upcoming DA3 will outsold DA2?

This isn't, and has never been, the point. Neither you nor I could prove it. We are talking about DAII.

Modifié par Saibh, 24 février 2011 - 05:14 .

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

All I get from this thread is that apparently the Sims 3 sucks

Yes I agree. The Sim 3 sucks and it's EA fault + it's hardcore fan who refuse to listen to any complaint.

So next time, when people say the game sucks, listen carefully to them. We already see 95% of dead games all over the world because everyone seem to think the game is too perfect to complaint. Hopefully DA2 learn something from this. Bioware willingness to listen to their fan as shown in Demo feedback thread is very positive sign, imo.