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[Ploppy]

Yeah, I think that's why neither sibling has a spec tree - they both die.

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

JamesX wrote...
In the cut scene he isn't even armored or armed.  Which cannot be possible in the Prologue - I don't think anyone in that setting can beat a ogre and hordes of dark spawns unarmored as well as unarmed.

I actually wonder more and more if the demo they gave us was BS. ;p

I mean, think about it. Carver is wearing peasent gear despite being a warrior like you. Despite having fought at Ostagar like you.  In that game footage, you're wearing similar clothes as him.

It would make sense that they may have sexed you up a bit for the demo and that you do, in fact, start the game in peasent garb.

I suppose we'll just have to see.

[Johnny Shepard]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

The Arishok is also in Lothering. Yeah, none of this is part of the real game.

No, I think that was just put in there to show who the bad guy is and had nothing to do with Lothering.

But it was in Lothering. Look at the backround. Unless it's some sort of Fade dream, that's definitely not in the final game.

The dragon was not Flemeth, either.

The only backround you se on the one Qunari is a blue sky and a mountain top.

How do you know the dragon was not Flemeth?

No. He's in Lothering, too. At 0:05.

Thats the one I'm talking about. Its a quick shot showing the bad guy but it's not from the same scene. They have edited the trailer like that.

[JamesX]

The armor for the NPC is not changeable - so it can't be cloth. I think it suppose to be light leather armor and not peasant cloth. Even in the prologue Carver was in the militia or infantry, there is no way if he ran from a battle to be wearing peasant cloth - apart from bad writing

[XBenotto18]

Its just a epic trailer to show random awesomness (ya I no, not a real word)



Its for marketing and it works

[Blacklash93]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

The Arishok is also in Lothering. Yeah, none of this is part of the real game.

No, I think that was just put in there to show who the bad guy is and had nothing to do with Lothering.

But it was in Lothering. Look at the backround. Unless it's some sort of Fade dream, that's definitely not in the final game.

The dragon was not Flemeth, either.

The only backround you se on the one Qunari is a blue sky and a mountain top.

How do you know the dragon was not Flemeth?

No. He's in Lothering, too. At 0:05.

Thats the one I'm talking about. Its a quick shot showing the bad guy but it's not from the same scene. They have edited the trailer like that.

It is the Lothering backround. And Arishok will not appear in Lothering in the real game. Hawke's mother is also on the ground behind him with other refugees. That's not in the demo.

It's a cinematic trailer using assets from the main game. It means nothing to the real game.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 23 février 2011 - 11:01 .

[Johnny Shepard]

Blacklash93 wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

The qunari wasn't in Lothering. This was talked about in another thread. If you look closely, you can see that Hawke is mourning Beth in his refugee outfit. Then it switches to him looking at the qunari, and then the NEXT scene is the ogre battle. After that it transitions to a completely different area (I mean, I'm pretty sure I saw hints of green vegetation in the background), ultimately ending in Kirkwall.

It seems to me at least that it's a montage of various events in Hawke's life and is probably for marketing purposes. However, who knows, maybe all those things are in the game. The Beth/Hawke scene could have been from one of Varric's exaggerated tales or something.

0:05

It's the blightlands backround.

It's blue sky and a mountain top. That can't possible be anywhere else?

[brain_damage]

Is that the voice of Steve Blum?

[Blacklash93]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

The qunari wasn't in Lothering. This was talked about in another thread. If you look closely, you can see that Hawke is mourning Beth in his refugee outfit. Then it switches to him looking at the qunari, and then the NEXT scene is the ogre battle. After that it transitions to a completely different area (I mean, I'm pretty sure I saw hints of green vegetation in the background), ultimately ending in Kirkwall.

It seems to me at least that it's a montage of various events in Hawke's life and is probably for marketing purposes. However, who knows, maybe all those things are in the game. The Beth/Hawke scene could have been from one of Varric's exaggerated tales or something.

0:05

It's the blightlands backround.

It's blue sky and a mountain top. That can't possible be anywhere else?

It's Lothering burning in the backround. There's smoke. 0:05

If you're talking about the forest area, what I'm refering to is before that.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 23 février 2011 - 11:06 .

[Dreadstruck]

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

JamesX wrote...
In the cut scene he isn't even armored or armed.  Which cannot be possible in the Prologue - I don't think anyone in that setting can beat a ogre and hordes of dark spawns unarmored as well as unarmed.

I actually wonder more and more if the demo they gave us was BS. ;p

I mean, think about it. Carver is wearing peasent gear despite being a warrior like you. Despite having fought at Ostagar like you.  In that game footage, you're wearing similar clothes as him.

It would make sense that they may have sexed you up a bit for the demo and that you do, in fact, start the game in peasent garb.

I suppose we'll just have to see.

Actually, the 'peasant' Hawke seems to be a mage, which means only Carver was at Ostagar.

[Dragonhugger]

i just know, that i want the music of that trailer

[Purple People Eater]

No way would they give away in a trailer that your other sibling dies as well. Its either the new way the scene is in the full version, or its marketing.

[kjdhgfiliuhwe]

Avalla'ch wrote...

kjdhgfiliuhwe wrote...

JamesX wrote...
In the cut scene he isn't even armored or armed.  Which cannot be possible in the Prologue - I don't think anyone in that setting can beat a ogre and hordes of dark spawns unarmored as well as unarmed.

I actually wonder more and more if the demo they gave us was BS. ;p

I mean, think about it. Carver is wearing peasent gear despite being a warrior like you. Despite having fought at Ostagar like you.  In that game footage, you're wearing similar clothes as him.

It would make sense that they may have sexed you up a bit for the demo and that you do, in fact, start the game in peasent garb.

I suppose we'll just have to see.

Actually, the 'peasant' Hawke seems to be a mage, which means only Carver was at Ostagar.

You totally didn't get a thing I said, did you? In the demo, you wear non-peasent garb, regardless of class. But, specifically, if you're a warrior, you're wearing all this nice armor, while Carver is in peasent garb. Which opens up the possibility, if nothing else, they sexed you up for the demo, as it'd make more sense that you and Carver would be similarly garbed.

Of course the more likely scenario is that you're the protagonist, so you'll always look better than your dopey brother, but I'm holding out hope that things will be diferent in the release version simply because otherwise it'll be very boring to play for the first 10 minutes since we've already played it a million times by then. 

[Polemists05]

Well there's lots of wtf moments, like why when Hawke is charging with a two handed sword there is Carver in Background, I don't care, it was EPIC and i want it

[Johnny Shepard]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

The qunari wasn't in Lothering. This was talked about in another thread. If you look closely, you can see that Hawke is mourning Beth in his refugee outfit. Then it switches to him looking at the qunari, and then the NEXT scene is the ogre battle. After that it transitions to a completely different area (I mean, I'm pretty sure I saw hints of green vegetation in the background), ultimately ending in Kirkwall.

It seems to me at least that it's a montage of various events in Hawke's life and is probably for marketing purposes. However, who knows, maybe all those things are in the game. The Beth/Hawke scene could have been from one of Varric's exaggerated tales or something.

0:05

It's the blightlands backround.

It's blue sky and a mountain top. That can't possible be anywhere else?

It's Lothering burning in the backround. There's smoke. 0:05

If you're talking about the forest area, what I'm refering to is before that.

Yes, there is smoke in the backround but that doesn't mean that it is Lothering. They have shown other places burning in other trailers.

[Chignon]

Xrissie wrote...

That sibling death scene's 10 times better than the one in the demo.

Please let that be the final version.

This. So much.

[Blooddrunk1004]

JamesX wrote...

mione wrote...

Hawke falling on their knees in despair. . .DX Bioware you needed to keep that in the main game.

Maybe it is some fade thing or some flash back where his guilt over the inability to protect his younger sibling is reflected or something.

In the cut scene he isn't even armored or armed.  Which cannot be possible in the Prologue - I don't think anyone in that setting can beat a ogre and hordes of dark spawns unarmored as well as unarmed.

It looks to real for fade.
But this should be the real begining, i wouldnt be surprised if Hawke would be just in robes because they had to escape. I find it silly that Hawke doesnt  show any emotion, fellings or anger when he founds brother/sister dead. Seriously he showed more emotion when he stabed Wesley.

[corym77]

I would hope the sibling death scene is more like that from the new trailer. I don;t think the story is too important in a demo. The demo (i.m.h.o.) is more for the technical/visual experience, which it delivered in spades. Frankly if the actual opening is completely different I will be happy. I just hope the Flemeth scene is still there. That was a super geek out moment.

[jlb524]

I don't think Hawke falling on his/her knees will be in the main game as, I'm sure that was thrown in to the trailer to add some emotion to the 'death' scene (as there's really no context in the really short trailer).



Also, I personally don't see Hawke going dramatic like that while the darkspawn horde is on their tails.



Though, I'm a bit biased as I have no problem with the sibling death scene as shown in the demo. I think Hawke is still shocked and won't properly grieve until later, when the family is safe. Plus, MamaHawke whispering to Bethany/Carver "I will never forget you" always gets me *sniffles*

[Blacklash93]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

The qunari wasn't in Lothering. This was talked about in another thread. If you look closely, you can see that Hawke is mourning Beth in his refugee outfit. Then it switches to him looking at the qunari, and then the NEXT scene is the ogre battle. After that it transitions to a completely different area (I mean, I'm pretty sure I saw hints of green vegetation in the background), ultimately ending in Kirkwall.

It seems to me at least that it's a montage of various events in Hawke's life and is probably for marketing purposes. However, who knows, maybe all those things are in the game. The Beth/Hawke scene could have been from one of Varric's exaggerated tales or something.

0:05

It's the blightlands backround.

It's blue sky and a mountain top. That can't possible be anywhere else?

It's Lothering burning in the backround. There's smoke. 0:05

If you're talking about the forest area, what I'm refering to is before that.

Yes, there is smoke in the backround but that doesn't mean that it is Lothering. They have shown other places burning in other trailers.

You can see blightland textures on the edge of the screen before the camera gets too close in on him. Same colored sky, too.

Jesus, you're impossible. It's Lothering, get over it.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 23 février 2011 - 11:30 .

[Polemists05]

The amount of nerd speculation of random facts in this thread is staggering. Just let people enjoy the EPIC trailer.

[Pedro BR]

Mike Laidlaw was talking about the sibling's death having some future impact, maybe there's a connection between the trailer and this, maybe Hawke falling on his knees is he looking back, thinking about the past.

[Polemists05]

Pedro could be right, this could be similar to the Sacred Ashes Temple Quests

[Kal Choedan]

Jesus, you're impossible. It's Lothering, get over it.

I don't think it's Lothering based on a rigorous examination of the video, you can clearly see the stonework behind the Qunari in the earliest few frames of the shot in question and it is not representative of any architecture seen in Lothering. It's a very simple bit of editing and it has confused you completely. I also happen think you're an arrogant nitwit for being so rudely insistent about this.  But we'll both get to find out for sure quite soon, won't we?

<datheme>March 8th (11th in Europe)</datheme>

Shut one's eyes tight or open one's arms wide; either way, one's a fool.

Modifié par Kal Choedan, 24 février 2011 - 12:26 .