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[MorrigansLove]

Why doesn't Hawke care?! why doesn't Hawke care that his baby sister has died?!

[MasterSamson88]

Johnny Shepard wrote...

MasterSamson88 wrote...

Nadia73 wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Xrissie wrote...

There's a new trailer depicting a more emotional sibling death.

I KNOW! I'VE SEEN IT! OMFG I HOPE THAT'S THE FINAL VERSION 

WHERE??? :o:o

link please!!!!

Hmm I think I've seen that. Hawke falling to his knees or something. That would be pretty cool if they did put a little more into that scene. Not that I'm complaining really.

In this thread!

Yeah I don't know. Something tells me that scene was created just for the trailer. You know, seeing as he picks a mace up and fights a bunch of Qunari right afterwards. 

[MorrigansLove]

WHY?!!!!

[deuce985]

TheMake wrote...

So why do people hate so much on Carver? the sod barely says two or three sentences before he's gone.

Because he looked like a idiot charging head first in what wasn't necessary. They been dropping darkspawn up until that point but he sees a Ogre and thinks he can just run into him first without Hawke/Bethany?

Speaking of, I was glad Aveline got pissed when I was telling her to suck it up, much needed rivallry points there. Definitely not romancing that chick. Gotta go with the one with all the junk in the trunk.

Modifié par deuce985, 23 février 2011 - 10:50 .

[DKJaigen]

what is it with the carver hate? on the one hand people are complaining that their isn't enough emo because people don't know him enough and on the other hand he is for some strange reason i yet have to understand hated , and yet we still don't know anything about his personality

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

i take you will be uable to save one of them depending on the class of character you choose what happens if your a rogue?

[Maelora]

Zerakus wrote...

About as much as with Trian, or Tamlen, orGorion, for that matter.

Oh, I felt sad over Gorion. 

I imagined him looking like Liam Neeson for extra pathos.

I kinda felt sorry for Tamlen too.

But HerpDerp getting squashed? Too funny.

[Archdemon 15]

Well it's all in opinion. I'll play a Mage once for my staff of Parlathan, then it's warrior for Bethany

[MorrigansLove]

This game better make me cry manly tears!

[Malanek]

It did seem very rushed and unemotional because you didn't really know the character at that point. It may be one of those things that is sadder once you have played the game because you know the characters better. But yeah, pretty weird execution.

[Johnny Shepard]

MasterSamson88 wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

MasterSamson88 wrote...

Nadia73 wrote...

MorrigansLove wrote...

Xrissie wrote...

There's a new trailer depicting a more emotional sibling death.

I KNOW! I'VE SEEN IT! OMFG I HOPE THAT'S THE FINAL VERSION 

WHERE??? :o:o

link please!!!!

Hmm I think I've seen that. Hawke falling to his knees or something. That would be pretty cool if they did put a little more into that scene. Not that I'm complaining really.

In this thread!

Yeah I don't know. Something tells me that scene was created just for the trailer. You know, seeing as he picks a mace up and fights a bunch of Qunari right afterwards. 

He picks up a mage-staff, not a mace.

[packardbell]

We were barely introduced to the characters.. so I don't think Bioware were pinning us to feel sad either.

[SultryVulcan]

I wept.....uncontrollably

[MorrigansLove]

it seemed like Hawke didn't care at all

[Chignon]

I was sad when Beth died, yes. Though, not because the scene was well done but because a character died whom I could have grown to like given the time.

The Archon wrote...

This came up in a thread before and Mike Laidlaw said:

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Perhaps the point is not to bring you to wailing tears over the deaths of those characters, but to set up certain things for later, hmm?

If we'd run around here saying "YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO WET YOURSELVES OVER THIS THING WE DO IN THE BEGINNING!" you could happily hoist us on our petard, but we didn't. So our petard remains unhoisted.

That makes sense.

[Teh Chozen Wun]

LOL, the first time when I was playing as a Warrior and I saw Carver die I was like "Yea, that's right, that's what you get for being my rival" and then as a mage "WHY!?!? WTF!?!? BETHANY!! !@#$!! DIE YOU RUTHLESS OGRE!! SHE ACTUALLY HAD A PERSONALITY!! WHYYY!??!?! *charges and dies*"

[AlexXIV]

packardbell wrote...

We were barely introduced to the characters.. so I don't think Bioware were pinning us to feel sad either.

Well after one playthrough one of them is introduced better. And then you probably leave him or her to die to see the other one.

[MorrigansLove]

no it dont make sense. why would Hawke act like he doesn't care that his sister has just died?!

[Noir201]

The Archon wrote...

This came up in a thread before and Mike Laidlaw said:

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Perhaps the point is not to bring you to wailing tears over the deaths of those characters, but to set up certain things for later, hmm?

If we'd run around here saying "YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO WET YOURSELVES OVER THIS THING WE DO IN THE BEGINNING!" you could happily hoist us on our petard, but we didn't. So our petard remains unhoisted.

So some events in Origins which had great impact and still talked about even today, and say a event of a member of your family dieing regradless if you hated them or not later on in the story is treated as "oh opps, lets move on!" Sorry Laidlaw thats such a awfull excuse.

(note i know the poster im quoting only posting what Laidlaw said!)

[MikuHaru]

This makes me think of what they did for the game Lunar back in the day. With the original Sega (Saturn? Genesis? Can't remember what system) a female character you're supposed to care a lot of about gets kidnapped in the beginning of the game. They had a lot of trouble with people really feeling any connection with her, making it a problem since that is one of your main motivations in the game.



What they did to correct this was in a later version for the PS1, they had her travel around with you longer, actually allowing you to build a bit of rapport with the character. This created a much more emotional response when she gets kidnapped.



I think even if we're just able to talk to the sibling a bit more, we might feel a bit more rapport and feel a bit more of an emotional response to the situation.



This reminds me a bit of what happened in the beginning of the Noble origins story where your family gets killed. I didn't really feel much since you aren't really obligated to have much of a conversation with them. It wasn't until later after I talked to little Oren a bit that I even felt anything at their death (although it was still a lot less than I would have liked).



I think this is something that Bioware really needs to improve on. You really feel things later in the game after you've built a bond with your companions and it makes those tough choices truly tough, but they often times overlook small chances to actually get an emotional response out of a player when they're supposed to.



Also, the lines were a little too terse and unemotionally delivered during the sibling death scene. Just a couple more well delivered lines could have completely changed the feel of the situation.

[AlexXIV]

MorrigansLove wrote...

no it dont make sense. why would Hawke act like he doesn't care that his sister has just died?!

Because Bioware couldn't do it better, plain and simple.

[packardbell]

MorrigansLove wrote...

it seemed like Hawke didn't care at all

Could be shock. Guilt and remorse comes after shock of the loss of  a loved one, it's common human behaviour.

[MorrigansLove]

i have a feeling that this game is just trying to be a michael bay equivalent of lord of the rings! no emotional impact to anything!